Answered that mostly in my notp tag, in which annabellioncourt answered the aged-up Claudia question very well:
I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis, she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts. Sure, he loves her and cares for her, but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.
With Lestat, I think it would be much the same.
I think Claudia still would have tried to kill Lestat, bc she was after his power, too, and disgruntled that he wouldn’t give them the answers about their origins as a species.
Armand still would have had his coven kill her (one could argue whether he orchestrated that or just went along with Santiago’s decision) because he wanted Louis all to himself, and knew that Louis would have a hard time ever separating himself from Claudia.
while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis,
YEP NO HESITATION THERE bc let’s be honest we all want to ravish Louis ok.
she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts.
Indeed.
Sure, he loves her and cares for her,
Exhibit A:
but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.
She’s worse than Lestat about playing w/ her food, that’s for sure, and choosing to kill innocents specifically is NOT a turn-on for Louis.
ooc; Well, Louis and Claudia are very complicated, in my opinion, and one of Louis’ weaknesses IS Claudia. He loved/loves her, but that doesn’t mean he’s been unaware of how “evil” she honestly is. I feel like he’s known that very keenly since the night she “killed” Lestat. He’s well aware that in many ways, she’s used him (see: Claudia’s diary entry that Louis reads in Merrick for a full view of exactly how much Claudia used him). He just lets it happen.
But the thing with Louis is, he doesn’t care that she’s used him. He feels as though he ruined her life, and he owes her an eternal debt for all of that. Even when he wanted to be with Armand, he couldn’t detach himself from her (which, Armand thought having her out of the picture would help Louis, but as we all know, that plan didn’t go so great).
Even years later, he reads Claudia’s thoughts in her own words about how she intended to make him into her slave, but it did nothing for his loyalty to her. He still asked Merrick to raise her ghost, and he still wanted to know what he could do to alleviate Claudia’s suffering, going clear to a disregard for his own life.
While he might not have particularly amorous feelings for an adult Claudia, I think that Louis ever saying “no” to her and sticking to it is a very, very difficult thing for him.
I actually really agree with you, very well-put.
For those who missed it, I couldn’t resist doing this…
But, we can’t cut Louis’ evil out of the conversation. His own cocktail of potent feelings for his…daughter, sister, friend, almost-lover? Whatever she was. Whatever she continues to be.
Louis’s evil is that he kills indiscriminately, which Akasha points out makes him “the most predatory of all the immortals here. You kill without regard for age or sex or will to live.”
But yeah, back to the NOTP of Louis/Claudia, I thought it was very well-handled in the movie. Which I consider almost canon bc AR did write the screenplay and was consulted on it alot. My notes in ().
Louis: “Listen to me. Claudia is very dear to me. (pause, feeling like he needs to actually specify the relationship?) She’s my daughter.”
Armand: “Your lover.” (and he mouths this word again silently bc he’s TEH JEALOUS)
Louis: “Well my beloved. My CHILD.” (He’s being very clear here, NOT LOVER)
Armand: “You say so, you are innocent.” (Armand knows that she didn’t come out of Louis’s wrist)
Louis: “She’s in danger, isn’t she?” (Tactically changing the subject so as not to bring up Lestat).
Truthfully she was his sister. But so is Gabrielle. Gabrielle is sort of his sister, Grandmother, and Mother-in-Law all rolled into one. WHAT A MESS.
while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis,
YEP NO HESITATION THERE bc let’s be honest we all want to ravish Louis ok.
she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts.
Indeed.
Sure, he loves her and cares for her,
Exhibit A:
but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.
She’s worse than Lestat about playing w/ her food, that’s for sure, and choosing to kill innocents specifically is NOT a turn-on for Louis.
I-want-my-IWTV 