Can you please enlighten me, or better yet, can your anon enlighten me, what is a “eurotrash fop”? :)

I mean, you can google these terms yourself, too, why are you coming to me (or that anon)?

I can only guess. Maybe it’s bc (A) you’re genuinely curious and you enjoy the way I answer things (whether you agree with me or not isn’t relevant), or (B) you’re looking to stir some shit bc that’s what this site does best, exacerbate disagreement bc ACTIVISM.

I didn’t invent these words and have no need to defend them, you’re forcing me to make a post that could easily offend Europeans or people who identify as fops, and/or both. I’m not interested in making potential Offense Fodder.

There was a time in fandom that I could just take this at face value and assume that you’re genuinely curious and you enjoy the way I answer things, so that’s how I’m responding, since I’m not interested in making potential Offense Fodder.

A Eurotrash Fop might look like this:

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[X] OP @alternativepurple tagged it as: #fashion #rococo #artistic #gentleman #retro #make-up #makeup #make up #aristocrat #elegant aristocrat

^These are positive tags, I’d say, and I’d agree. There are more positive tags in reblogs of that post, like “#inspiration”. But there is also definitely a poking-fun-at about this, this model is so heavily slathered in makeup that the powder has fallen on their clothing and hair ribbon too, the blush is unnaturally red on their cheekbone and it’s even purposefully on their chin, they have so much lace on that it might get in the way of using their gloved hand in some way. It’s intentionally overdone, and I think it’s gorgeous in it’s overdoneness.

In context, I think the Anon you refer to meant “Eurotrash fop” in gentle mockery: “and we need diversity in an ocean of white Eurotrash fops!” There’s a sense of humor there in the image of a literal ocean of heavily made-up people, all jostling together in their fancy clothes. 

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^This is a crowd pic from the Shining which I brightened up to make it more of an ocean of fancy-dressed white people, which is what Anon was basically talking about. I think in the Shining it was mocking the crowd as an ocean of faces, too, that Jack Torrance had been swallowed by the Overlook and blends in

so seamlessly

with other victims of the hotel.

Urban Dictionary defines “Eurotrash” like this:

Eurotrash

A human sub-phylum characterized by its apparent affluence, worldliness, social affectation and addiction to fashion. Males are characterized by a semi-slovenly appearance (including half-shaven faces), greasy hair, rib-hugging shirts, tight jeans and loafers worn without socks. Women are easily distinguished by anorexia, over-bleached hair, gaudy jewelry, plastic surgery (particularly breast-enlargement) and their attachment to the male species. Both sexes greet each other with “air kisses,” immediately speak of their last trip (often Paris, Rome, Majorca), spend hours at “see-and-be-seen” restaurants and exhibit a world-weariness and pained sense of irony.

^Sounds about right as far as I know the word, although harsher in judgement than actual living people I’ve known who shamelessly self-identified as Eurotrash.

Wiki defines “fop” as follows:

Fop became a pejorative term for a foolish man excessively concerned with his appearance and clothes in 17th-century England. Some of the very many similar alternative terms are coxcomb,[1] fribble, popinjay (meaning ‘parrot’), fashion-monger, and ninny. Macaroni was another term, of the 18th century, more specifically concerned with fashion.

A modern-day fop may also be a reference to a foolish person who is excessively concerned about his clothing, luxuries, minor details, refined language and leisurely hobbies. He is generally incapable of engaging in conversations, activities or thoughts without the idealism of aesthetics or pleasures.

^Both of those words sound like they could apply to many of the VC characters. 

I’ll repeat myself: When we joke about characters, that’s not to say that that’s always a negative act. Look, we’re currently dragging Lestat bc he said IN CANON that he loved being called a “slut,” which is really more of a layered commentary on shaming people for enjoying sex/intimacy, and he refuses to be shamed for it, he’ll turn around and take it as a compliment instead 😉 Same goes for calling him a “Eurotrash fop.” It’s teasing. It’s intended to amuse. It falls under Dark Humor or Black Comedy. If that’s not your thing, that’s fine, but it is a thing, and I like that thing.

dark humor

A form of humor involving a twist or joke making the joke seen as offensive, harsh, horrid. Yet the joke is still funny. You need to have pension for dark humor in order to find it truly funny. In a way, it could be seen as the jokes are so horrible in their twist that it makes it funny.

Black comedy, also known as dark comedy or gallows humor, is a comic style that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo, particularly subjects that are normally considered serious or painful to discuss such as death. Some comedians use it as a tool for exploring vulgar issues, thus provoking discomfort and serious thought as well as amusement in their audience. Popular themes of the genre include violence (murder, abuse, domestic violence, rape, torture, war, genocide, terrorism, corruption), discrimination (chauvinism, racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia), disease (anxiety, depression, suicide, nightmares, drug abuse, mutilation, disability, terminal illness, insanity), sexuality (sodomy, homosexuality, incest, infidelity, fornication), religion and barbarism.

Is there any notorious fics in VC fandom? Like the famous Milk fic, the Chair fic etc. like other fandoms have?

Nobody writes VC fanfic are u crazy? Pfffffffft….

I think different ppl would consider different fics “notorious” but as for my own “notorious” list, we still keep those hidden. Our fandom experienced a war on fanfic like no other, and many great works were lost forever ;A; The few notorious fics that remain, well… you have to earn the trust of someone who knows where they are bc altho AR’s stance has changed (in that she tolerates the existence of fanfiction), it doesn’t mean she wouldn’t change her mind and slam writers with legal action at some other time.

I’d love to just link things out here so that ppl can enjoy them but I can’t :-

However, here’s a post in which I put links to some of my faves that I feel are in a pretty safe place, and a few of those may be considered “notorious.”

fandoms you’re in now?

Confession time: I don’t consider myself really ~in~ any other fandom. Just Vampire Chronicles.

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Here’s some of the other fandoms I like to watch from a distance. I put an * on ones I guess I might qualify to be in, and/or that I feel obligated to watch/read when I see them. I think what I like best about other fandoms is finding more excellent fanartists and shipping discourse.

[Oh! Just remembered, you might want to check out my huge recc list]

Media in no special order:

  • Tom Cruise* – yeah I am a low-level Cruiser, throw in most of his 80′s and 90′s movies here in this bullet ^_____^
  • Tom Hiddleston – *sighs*
  • What We Do in the Shadows*
  • Only Lovers Left Alive*
  • Crimson Peak
  • Sherlock Holmes* (RDJ movies, mainly)
  • Hannibal* – primarily the TV series and secondarily the movies
  • Marvel movies (w/ subcategories for ships: Stucky, Stony, ummmm I like all the ships, really!)
  • Disney* 
  • Pixar too, but not as much as the 2D traditional Disney movies. 
  • The Shining*
  • American Psycho
  • Jurassic Park
  • The Walking Dead*
  • The Office
  • Arrested Development
  • Dr. Katz
  • Home Movies
  • Star Wars (movies only, not comics or novels)
  • Lord of the Rings trilogy (movies only)
  • South Park
  • Attack on Titan/SnK
  • Sailor Moon 
  • Studio Ghibli, Miyazaki
  • the X-Files (the older series!)
  • the Addams Family (I love the Adult Wednesday youtube person!)
  • the Lost Boys
  • Edward Scissorhands

Other stuff in no special order:

  • CATS
  • FASHION
  • Goth goth
  • Halloween stuff
  • candles
  • photography/aesthetic stuff
  • glassware, handblown glass
  • architecture
  • animation in general
  • concept art/behind the scenes info
  • vintage portrait photography and art
  • classical art and sculpture
  • Places: Paris, New Orleans, France (<–duh), Greece, Rome, Italy, New Zealand, California, NYC.

I don’t think I have enough depth of knowledge* of other media to consider myself a real part of their fandoms, but I like other media, obviously, and I sometimes reblog it here under #Not VC along with other Not VC things. #VC Adjacent is for things that are evocative of a VC feel, even if only in the remotest way!

Admittedly, my standards are VERY high re: “depth of knowledge,” but the amount I do know about others might qualify me as being considered “in” some other fandoms. What even qualifies you to be IN a fandom? Just liking a thing? Or having headcanons about it? Enjoying discourse about it? IDK.

Back in QotD Dan said his evil dark twink bf could open locked doors with his mind or something? Lesty said so too in TotBT if I’m not mistaken. Here’s the thing. Do you think they can open like, electric doors? Like the ones in apartments I guess?

“No locks ever kept Armand from anything.” – Daniel Molloy, Queen of the Damned.

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[fanart by @elodiron]

So yes, Daniel’s evil dark twink bf Armand can open locked doors, since there would be electrical locks at that point, but I think it was more that Armand always had a way of sneaking in (being wee, he could probably climb up and enter a small window!), or could get someone to open the door for him, bc I don’t recall that Armand has telekinesis in canon.

Lestat and Marius both have telekinesis in canon, but I don’t think there’s a lot of detail about their manipulating electricals…

“I was sitting in the darkened cathedral. Hours ago it had been locked, and I had entered surreptitiously through one of the front doors, quieting the protective alarms. And left it open for him.” – Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^Lestat doesn’t say how he quieted the alarms. I’m guessing that Marius and Lestat’s telekinesis does extend to electrical locks, more in their physical attributes, though. If you can manually force open the parts that keep a door locked, the electricals don’t matter.

And of course, they’re both strong enough to just knock your door down physically ;]

Two more alarm-related quotes, that didn’t really add to my point but I found them anyway, under the cut, for length.


The lock gave easily when I commanded it to do so. And the door opened as if I had touched it, when I had not.“- Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^This is probly a normal physical lock w/o the alarm system.

“And I locked up the shop door tight with a few little telepathic twists, and off I went again.” Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^One of Lestat’s regular mini-shopping sprees in a closed store. I would think this shop had an alarm system but he doesn’t mention needing to disable it.

madmenandmayhem:

i-want-my-iwtv:

jardinsalvaje:

#PrinceLestatIsComing

I’m so excited!

From Becket’s FB.

#Obligated to reblog this. As clearly the statement being made is:

  • Prince Lestat takes place after TOBT
  • go shit bricks over a pic of the manuscript.

oh now i will have to read tobt

Yes read ToBT its actually got some very good moments.

But wait, what happens if this is Prince Lestat?