annabellioncourt:

vampchronfic:

mylittleinferno:

firelight-fading:

mylittleinferno:

Does anyone else feel that the quality of the Vampire Chronicles books goes downhill the further you read into the series? 

I mean, I love Anne Rice and her novels but sometimes I get the feeling she put out a book because of contractual obligations. Some of the VC books are just.. meh. 

(If you don’t mind my input) I feel like the quality kind of slopes downward, comes up again just a little bit and then goes down even further. I actually enjoyed The Vampire Armand (despite the weird shit that went on), but as for the 2 books that preceded it, I really didn’t care for them at all. I haven’t read on-ward since because I’ve heard things regarding the other half of the series so, I can’t attest to that half.

I don’t mind 🙂

I’ve heard that some of the books are better but after I read TOBT it really killed my enjoyment of the series and I’ve only recently gotten back into it.

You’re not wrong—there are a lot of people who have the same general opinion (YMMV on which book began the downward spiral). #i-want-my-iwtv — you need to weigh in on this one!

I have argued to doctorate holders that IWTV is a true work of literary genius. TVL is my favorite for its unrepentant hedonism and introspection–I think Lestat is more self aware than Louis is, and more aware of how others think than Louis is, and I love his narration (despite the fact that I am literally Louis). 

Queen of the Damned is well on par with TVL in its quality–and its a high quality straddling the line between good popular fiction and high brow literature……Armand, Blood and Gold, Pandora, Vittorio: they’re right below it in literary quality for me. The rest seem to be just good popular fiction, not great, but good. 

I love them all to bits, and will defend Anne and her work, and continue to read whatever she writes, but….you are right, there really is a change in her writing.

*Officially weighing in*

Lots of good points above, I absolutely agree that IWTV is a true work of literary genius. Agreed on everything annabellioncourt wrote. For me, none of the later books remotely approaches the richness and intensity of IWTV, TVL, or QOTD, but yes, I’d say TVA was very good, and shouldn’t be lumped into the lesser VC simply bc of its post-MtD publishing date. 

I would agree w/ firelight-fading that it’s not a sharp downward slide in quality, but more that “the quality kind of slopes downward, comes up again just a little bit and then goes down even further.” Blood Canticle would have ended this series, and for what it’s worth, I would say that Prince Lestat begins to get things back on a better track plot-wise and emotion-wise than it nearly ended on.

My short answer:  I think AR can still capture that old quality we all fell in love with, albeit in slivers. Which is why I can’t disregard any of the books entirely. It’s still hard for me to accept Prince Lestat as canon, I might never, but there are moments and lines of dialogue in it that are SO VERY GOOD. Moments where I’ve had to pause and smile, because it was as if the old Lestat, from IWTV or TVL, actually graced us with his presence, if only for a moment.

However, in general, I would say that the VC began as a work of catharsis for her (we probably all know the Claudia = Michele Rice connection by now); she had real questions that needed answering, she had a powerful hunger to flex her storytelling muscles, steeped in all that older literature, she could still relate to us mere mortals, and she had her poet husband’s emotional and creative support. Don’t underestimate Stan’s contribution 😉

So I’d say that’s why the first few books (1-3 or 1-5 or whatever, depending on your cutoff point) are so strong, and why we mourn the loss of that passionate searching. Because as she got more successful, as she exorcised her demons, she might have lost touch with the emotions and questions she began the journey with. I’m happy she’s happy! I would probably still be a mess, if I had lost a child and a husband, both who still had a lot of life ahead of them ;A; 

But I’m glad she seems to be in a good place, and that she’s still writing, even though she is probably financially secure enough not to need to touch WordPerfect ever again!

Hit the jump for more. 


It’s easy to denounce a pile of books. It’s easy to just slam them down or make a gif of them on fire yes I did that before I finished reading it and it’s kind of a bonding experience to all agree to like or dislike a thing together. I get that. Hey, I actively dislike movie!QOTD. I immediately feel a little kinship w/ others who agree w/ me on that, and I am aware that’s mean to those who feel nostalgia for that movie, so I try to keep it to a minimum publicly. 

Why do people dislike the later VC books? Because they’re wild? (They are!), They are historically inaccurate? (Probably!) The characters seem “off” or present unreliable narration as to past events told by other characters…? (They are and they do!) 

^All of which are varying degrees of criminal acts that call for Fictional Character Protective Services™ but I advocate for the proverbial devil because that’s one of my things that I do so here we go:   

Wild stories:

  • Well, AR attempted to appease her POTP fanbase in some regard, merging the Mayfair Witch series into VC, and she acknowledged that it hasn’t “worn well.”
  • She’s trying to appease the POTP who have begged her to give Lestat a biological child (check that off the list), and get married with a ~ceremony~ (allegedly happening in the next installment, Blood Paradise) bc how can he be at all remotely happy w/out making an honest man out of Louis FFS like c’mon.
  • She’s always tried to push the envelope and TOBT was WILD for its time in this series, how incredible that she’s managed to make that seem so tame in comparison to later canon!
  • Not to mention the Dora scene in MtD. 

They are historically inaccurate:

  • Probably! But I’m not a history buff, so for me, to say the characters are wearing something that wasn’t invented until, idk, 50 yrs later, doesn’t bother me. 
  • I can understand why it might irritate the hell out of someone else, though. 

The characters seem “off” or present unreliable narration as to past events told by other characters… 

  • But that happens in real life, too! X might have one version of a story and Y, who also experienced it, might have a much different version. I enjoy seeing the perspectives, and consider for myself who’s version I believe. 
  • Louis and Lestat argue over whether Lestat was about to eat a baby at the end of IWTV in a scene which we both know did not take place!

In the last analysis, AR can still blow me away with a scene, or just a line of dialogue, even in the far less popular books in the series. She can still make me put the book down and stare off into space for a breather. 

BUT, as I mentioned above,

I think AR can still capture that old quality we all fell in love with, albeit in slivers. Which is why I can’t disregard any of the books entirely. It’s still hard for me to accept Prince Lestat as canon, I might never, but there are moments and lines of dialogue in it that are SO VERY GOOD. Moments where I’ve had to pause and smile, because it was as if the old Lestat, from IWTV or TVL, actually deigned to be present, if only for a moment.

Seldom did I see my feet in black socks. I knew almost nothing personally about my feet. They looked rather small for the twenty-first century. Bad luck. But six feet was still a good height.

Lestat de Lioncourt, Blood Canticle (via i-want-my-iwtv)

#THAT QUOTE ABOUT HIS FOOT SIZE INSECURITY #biggest baby #small feet complex #like he is already convincing himself that his height makes up for it #as if ANYONE NOTICED EXCEPT HIM

I can “fall in love” with anybody—man, woman, child, vampire, the Pope. It doesn’t matter. I’m the ultimate Christian. I see God’s gifts in everyone.

Lestat de Lioncourt, Blood Canticle

Lestat would want to be a reality tv star, the other jobs take too much work.

vagabonddaniel:

//One of my favorite things is idea of these vampires being on reality shows. Like just in general. But especially like ridiculous ones made up for them specifically. Like:

The Fledgling – 20 gorgeous young people compete to be Lestat de Lioncourt’s next fledgling by trying to win him over with one-on-one dates and their own charming personalities. Including a very special episode where Louis de Pointe du Lac gets to pick the people who get a date with Lestat. Hosted by Daniel Molloy. (Armand bribes the producers to let him into the editing bay and make an entire episode where Lestat rolls around on a bed complaining about the size of his feet and his other inadequacies.) 

The Talamasca Files – Follow awkward, can’t-say-no-to-vampires Talamasca Agent Stirling Oliver, as he flagrantly breaks his organization’s #1 Rule (”Do not engage with Lestat!”) and investigates supernatural happenings in New Orleans. Special guest appearances by the Mayfairs. 

The Real Vampires of Night Island – Immortality! Eternal youth! Constant drama! Watch vampires lead glamorous, picturesque lives as they navigate their way through a mortal world that hates them for their beauty and riches. Highest rated episode to date: “The Suit.” A red velvet riding jacket disappears from Lestat’s closet and he sets out to find the culprit. (Spoiler alert: it’s Marius. Spoiler alert: That’s all he’s wearing.) 

I mean, you know, for example. It’s not like I’ve thought about this a lot…

#it got better

i-want-my-iwtv:

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Armand bribes the producers to let him into the editing bay and make an entire episode where Lestat rolls around on a bed complaining about the size of his feet:

“Seldom did I see my feet in black socks. I knew almost nothing personally about my feet. They looked rather small for the twenty-first century. Bad luck. But six feet was still a good height.” 

~Lestat de Lioncourt, Blood Canticle

remember-me-you-clever-boy
replied to your post

“Can you list a few modern professions you feel Lestat would have, if…”

It’s funny that you said illustrator bc my headcanon is that Lestat can’t draw to save his life (that’s why claudia liked drawing so much), vampire or not

Also: Lestat the young theatre actor. Louis the bookshop owner. Armand the eternal intern lol

Hmmmm, well, yeah, I used to headcanon that Lestat can’t draw, but then there are these quotes about his handwriting, so I feel like he does have some skill, but maybe just hasn’t really tried to Art specifically: 

  • “… Lestat does everything in a big way-covers half the page with his magnificent lettering.” – David Talbot, Queen of the Damned
  • “[Mona’s] generation, with Touch-Tone phones. Big deal! I can write with a quill pen in a flurry of curlicues you wouldn’t believe; let’s see her do that. And I don’t spill a drop of ink on the parchment, either.” – Lestat de Lioncourt, Blood Canticle 

Lestat the young theatre actor WELL OBVIOUSLY! *facepalm for missing that on my list*

Louis would definitely be a bookshop owner, he would handwrite all those little Staff Rec tabs, too. And he wouldn’t sell special editions to anyone he felt wouldn’t take care of them. 

I am sorry but what is a blood vivicanti

hyperbeeb:

i-want-my-iwtv:

I actually don’t know! Purposely. Ignorance is bliss. I’m just grateful we haven’t suffered a crossover of BV/VC.

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I’m gonna redirect you to hyperbeeb, who is taking one for the team and reading the first one in the- has read the first one and is now reading the whole series?! Her tag for this journey into madness is #Mary reads the blood vivicanti 

The blood Vivicanti is the name given to the vampires that aren’t vampires in the series. The blood Vivicanti are humans who have been infused with the blood of an alien. They possess superhuman senses and speed. A secondary good source for them is human blood which they consume via a proboscis protruding from their tongue which has a stinger at the end. The sting creates an orgasmic effect in its victims. For the blood Vivicanti, drinking of the blood allows them access to the memories and skills of their victims but only for a limited time (except of course in the case of our special snowflake protagonist whose photographic memory lets her retain skills forever).

The word Vivicanti itself was carefully chosen and created by Anne rice. It is a combination of two Latin words to make a new word.
From my best guess, it’s a mixture of the word vivi, meaning living or alive and canti which means a song so the literal translation of Vivicanti is living song.
So the blood living song. God, it’s blood canticle all over again.

^This was so informative thank u!