Filled a request for Daniel and Marius snuggling <3. My ref for Daniel was Dominik Sadoch and Marius was a mix of Lee Pace and my own usual way of drawing him (those little mouth pouches or whatever, they’re in this season for me!)
Their pose ref is from this promotional photo for All Good Things which was a great start for what we’ve got going on here now.
The pronunciation of his name is up for some debate; it isn’t explicitly defined in canon. Les Mis fandom ppl – who also have a Marius in their canon – tend to pronounce it “MAHR-eeus” with more emphasis on the first syllable.
I’m not a scholar on Roman history, either, so someone who is can chime in on this, bc it would probably be that way. I’ve always pronounced his name “Marry-iss” which I’m sure is totally wrong, but sounds right to me 😛
What’s in a name? A lot when we’re talking about Armand from The Vampire Chronicles. In The Vampire Armand, Armand breaks down his life for you. However I like to break down his novel/life into 3 parts according to his given names:
Andrei (Given by his Father: Ivan)
Amadeo (Given to him by his Master: Marius)
Armand (Given to him by his fellow Coven member aka Child Of Darkness: Allesandra)
Ah, hmmmmmm…. I don’t remember that specifically, and I’m feeling like I should know that…
^Lee Pace as Marius bc of reasons.
… but I can surmise that since he was the only authority figure anyone paid respect to for awhile, that would naturally lead to them speculating on him abusing such status.
Which he did, somewhat, with Armand, when he took him in. I haven’t personally dissected that ship too thoroughly, so I wouldn’t know.
I’ll open this up to the group: Anyone out there have an answer for this anon?
//Haven’t been around long enough to know (only got into the fandom in 2005), but I would guess it’s just what you said.. that maybe his and Armand’s relationship as it came through in TVA and B&G was a negative surprise to people? Especially compared to how favourably he’s portrayed in say TVL/QotD.
ooc: I think it’s partially the later stuff with TVA and B&G, where he comes off as a not-so-nice guy. But back when there were only three books, Marius was the authority figure trying to implement rules for the vampires, so he was an obvious antagonist for The Brat Prince, resident rule-breaker.
I read the books when I was 13 and was like, “wee everyone is hot” but then I reread them at 27 with more scrutiny and formed some vastly different opinions on characters. I realized I didn’t like Marius at all LMAO it’s just because he’s got a personality I’m not fond of in a man.
So I imagine people might have been “eh *grunts & hand waves*” on Marius and that somehow designated him the one to make the villain when it suited. Fandom is not known for having impartial views on anything – now or back then.
^All good reasons, TVA and B&G would have had a big impact on fandom’s perception of Marius.
Later-canon Marius is very… um… he seems to have misplaced some of his marbles.
#marius I leave u alone with my mortal luvvies for 5 DAMN SECONDS WTF
I don’t recall any specific fic where Marius was controlling or abusive though once TVA came out people began to think of him in less of a positive light partly because of Armand’s specific reveals about him and also because he went against his own advice regarding making a vampire of a child (Armand was 17 which was perhaps why he admonished Lestat against such an action, but then how to explain Benji? Benji was made strong, to be sure, because, well, Marius—but he was still very young and Sybele was more than a little addled, so turning her was risky. It was around that time where people began writing more fic examining his darker side.
Ah, hmmmmmm…. I don’t remember that specifically, and I’m feeling like I should know that…
^Lee Pace as Marius bc of reasons.
… but I can surmise that since he was the only authority figure anyone paid respect to for awhile, that would naturally lead to them speculating on him abusing such status.
Which he did, somewhat, with Armand, when he took him in. I haven’t personally dissected that ship too thoroughly, so I wouldn’t know.
I’ll open this up to the group: Anyone out there have an answer for this anon?
Hmmm, well he does have icey blue eyes in the right lighting…
Does look good in a suit:
But… I think he’s too young? Too soft-featured? I picture someone more angular, and more stern-fatherish, a little scholarly, a dash of starving-artist.
I will defend Antonio 5ever, so I respect you (and others) for defending actors in roles that others disagree with.
You have a valid point, and I actually rather like this production still is he wearing red velvet?? (I think it’s velour but it counts!)
…and yet, we also have Lee Pace…
I liked the idea of the druids not letting him cut his hair. Something about that felt like another means of trying to break him, by taking away his ability to even choose his own grooming, they were trying to chip away at his sense of self, the better to give himself over to what they wanted him to be for them.
Maybe part of why Marius was drawn to rescue Armand from the brothel is that he could relate to the frustration of imprisonment, though his own abuse was very different from Armand’s.
I-want-my-IWTV 
