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Details (#1) of Half-Length Portrait of a Roman Woman (1862/1866), by Anselm Feuerbach.
Can we give Claudia Blak a second chance(she played Panda in the movie we don’t talk about) and cast her as Gabrielle?
Well my initial thought was We can forgive but we will never forget.

^But tbh this was not her fault, and I’m sure she did the best she could, and honestly, I had no idea how beautiful she really is under all that hideous makeup like wtf was up with that extra pocket of white shimmer eye powder in the inner tear duct area on all those vampires in QOTD it was hella weird!

And how playful she can be!

And how seasonally appropriate!

In short Yes, let’s please give Claudia Black a second chance at VC. As someone. Maybe Gabrielle even!

Eva Green as Pandora
I don’t remember what ethnicity she was supposed to be specifically, Greek? A year ago @evan-wheeler offered Eva Green as Akasha but now that we have Nicki Minaj…. that role is sorta cast in my heart!
Aside for what the social justice warriors might say re: her ethnicity, I think Eva Green would be great as Pandora.


^Pandora with AU!Caucasian Arjun.
In regards to your Winona Ryder post, how about Pandora?
Works for me! She might be a vampire already, she’s ageless 😀 I mean LOOKIT THIS BEAUTIFUL CREATURE

[fanart by auroraenchante]
Someone else suggested she’d be good as Dora, I’m good with that, too.
I could imagine this as Pandora when she’s with Azim in qotd and rips a young man’s head half off.
Don’t you think that the actor that played Lucius Malfoy in Harry Potter will fit Marius ??
That’s Jason Isaacs. Um, I looked at some HP screencaps and such and it’s hard to tell bc Lucius Malfoy’s default expression is very un-Marius to me :- There is more to Marius than flowing platinum hair, blue eyes, and a Roman face.
However, it could work, I did find some stellar fanart of him that seemed more Marius-ish:

^Bianca et Marius Lucius et Narcissa Malfoy, by Makani

^Bianca? Not Pandora… a servant? et Marius Lucius Malfoy,
by Makani

^Lucius Malfoy by ladunya

^Bianca et Marius Lucius et Narcissa Malfoy, by Makani

^Marius et Pandora Lucius et Narcissa Malfoy, by Makani
I am confused… so people who follow Anne on facebook do so slavishly? Maybe we just follow her because we like certain things that she posts? I don’t mean to sound whiny, but lumping all her fb followers together hurts. If that’s not what you meant and you were only referring to the people who /do/ follow her obsessively, then I apologize. I just can’t tell from your words in that post, so here I am.
TL;DR
I struggled with this answer, because, while it would be diplomatic to simply apologize, I won’t apologize that it was hurtful, because, as you’ll learn in this post, that group of “more obsessive” people have been and are much crueler to their victims than I was with that one word about them.
~Here is a picture of Our Lady of VC for the more obsessive fans to frame and worship~

Side note, before we go any further: Anon, why do you care who I lump anyone in with? I could say everyone who follows X is “a gullible baby,” and everyone who follows Y is “a perfect cinnamon roll, too good for this world,” but that doesn’t make either true. Obviously, if you don’t think you follow AR “slavishly,” then you don’t! Take a breath, this is tumblrland, this blog is for VC fandom love and fanworks (and fandom etiquette and education sometimes), it’s meant to be an outlet, an escape from reality, so don’t take things personally.
This is actually a great opportunity to educate you, Anon, and anyone else who might not be aware of the history between Anne Rice, her “People of the Page” (her phrase, not mine. ”POTP”) followers, her fandom outside of POTP, and outside people who have had opinions on her works. I could write a dissertation on this topic but it’s not worth the effort; this post will be TL;DR for most people. I’m doing this so I can tag it and use it again the next time this topic comes up.
The short answer is: In the beginning, all of AR’s FB followers were POTP. No distinction needed to be made, because they were ALL highly obsessive to the point that they were her online army she could rally to attack people/reviewers who dared to have an opinion on her works. There have been many instances in which something critical to AR came along – or something that she INTERPRETED as critical – and AR makes a statement on her FB page about it, which is a thinly veiled order rallying her troops to inundate that source with their “discussion” on that review. Sometimes her POTP simply made so many personal attacks in the comments on the offending critical post that the victim is forced to withdraw/delete their review. This whole cycle has happened too many times. In fact, AR has recognized this pattern and actually said that she will no longer link to negative reviews of her works (½/14):
“Guys, I am always open to publishing negative reviews of my work for consideration, to balance the many positive reviews to which I link. But the negative reviewer must bring the review here and request it. When I’ve linked to negative reviews for discussion, some of the reviewers in question have felt that they were unfairly targeted; and they have objected to some of the comments made on their reviews. It just doesn’t work. So I no longer volunteer any negative review, no matter how well written, for discussion. Again, reviewers are welcome to bring their reviews to the page, and post links and offer them for discussion. Same with blog posts. I might not repost every single one; but I’m happy to see them posted on the page and to read them and consider them for reposting.”
“… if I link to them for discussion, some of these people get very upset. They accuse me of “demonizing” them. They call the People of the Page “hell hounds” for their comments. And admittedly, some people do make very unpleasant comments…”
She has 1.1 million followers as of this posting, and I, myself, am one of them. So, of all 1.1 million, at least one of her followers is not an obsessive “hell hound,” as described above.
I actually think she has moved past much of the drama, and now her POTP (both our kind, Anon, and the “more obsessive” kind) are more focused on news items, poetry, VC adaptations & casting ideas, headcanons/canon requests for AR, and other good things she likes discussion on. I enjoyed her #Fan Questions for Lestat, and the 15 yr old inside me still gets excited when she posts something about “Where are they now?” like Lestat doodling on a napkin, or the whole coven all flopped together on a couch watching Hell on Wheels, that’s good stuff *u*
Hit the jump for links to examples of POTP vs. reviewers clashing, etc.
1. War on Fanfic
So this is before the POTP’s time, but it’s worth noting that Anne Rice waged a War on Fanfic in the 1990′s. She had every right to do so, but it destroyed the fandom. She sicc’d her pack of lawyers on all VC fanfic authors, and forced speculative fiction (old-timey-wimey word for “fanfic”) sites to shut down. The fandom was driven underground; fanfic could only be shared very privately, possibly through email exchanges or carrier pigeons.
This experience taught AR a valuable lesson: Anything that she didn’t approve of could be shut down by forces she could marshal. Lawyers cost money, and take on only legitimate legal cases, and legal battles can get messy (she’s had other legal issues but I won’t go there, you can use your newfangled googley-woogly machine for that).
2. The Pandora story
Here’s where the POTP became AR’s army, and they didn’t cost a penny, and there were no legal ramifications in sending them forth on her behalf.
“Kayleigh Herbertson found Pandora to be a poorly written novel where the vampires didn’t act like vampires… after Herbertson was done writing the review she took the book, which was already falling apart, and turned it into decoupage.”
“[AR] chose to respond by posting a link on her Facebook page (where her 740 thousand Facebook followers could find it) and appended the invitation: “Comments most welcome.”.“
Her POTP left an enormous amount of harassing comments on that page, and eventually, it was taken down. Here are my two favorite POTP comments from that article:
- HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE SHITTY ASS STEPHANIE MEYER TO THE QUALITY WORK THAT IS ANNE RICE HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES
- You bitch! 😡
Here’s a link to another article on this situation, with more context.
3. Mess of Links
Here, have at it. I can’t read through these all, but you can!
- Googley-woogley machine results
- AR writes: “J. Malin wrote this extremely negative review of “The Witching Hour” for Amazon… it seems a good idea to look at a deeply critical review, especially one that it is very well written. Comments welcome.
- A review of IWTV with POTP comments.
- Review of Beauty’s Release “And sometimes, pain is just … painful” by Aletheia Knights, with lots of authentic POTP comments.
- Aaaaand here’s AR’s call to action discussion on Knights’ review: “… I stumbled on this amazing negative review of my erotica, “Beauty’s Release,” … I would honestly welcome opinions on this review. Please understand: I am not trying to incite “fans” to pile on this reviewer. Not at all. What I welcome here is honest discussion because the review puzzles and baffles me. This is perhaps the longest negative review I’ve ever seen of my erotica, and I’m somewhat, well, stunned, by the tone, intricacy, and length of all this… Your comments are most welcome.”
Hope this helped! I think we’re all coexisting pretty well these days, her People Of The Page and her – what I like to call ourselves – People Off the Page. Let’s just all take a chill pill and enjoy this series together, and if not, let’s just do it in our own way. Live and let live.
Hello! After years of re-reading the first 3 books, I am about to start book 4, ttotbt. However, I was looking at the order of books on Wikipedia and I noticed Pandora and Vittorio are kind of separate? When should I read them so that the series is in order?((your blog is PERFECT, by the way))
((My blog is perfect, indeed. Pffft must pretend to have some level of humility! Thank u *u* ))

Starting TOBT, you’re still on the more sane side of canon. JUST YOU WAIT.
When to read Pandora and Vittorio? That’s a good question. Other ppl may have different answers for you, so anyone feel free to reblog this w/ commentary or send me a message on this.
Pandora
This is the story of Pandora, who was with Marius for quite some time, so I would read this one right before Blood and Gold (which is Marius’ story) so that her perspective is fresh in your mind when Marius starts talking smack about her. AR wrote Blood and Gold after Pandora, so she had to keep that information in mind, too.
Vittorio
HONESTLY, I don’t see that Vittorio really fits into canon at all, I think the Coven of the Articulate are mentioned briefly in his book? His story won’t spoil any of the other books, bc it’s completely separate from theirs, so I’d leave it till later. After Blood and Gold. Maybe even after Prince Lestat, since he’s not in that book, either.
When I started the series, the first 4 had already been published, and I read the fresh VC in the order they were released. This meant that I read Pandora between MtD and TVA, not really ideal placement, as, if I recall correctly, she has only brief cameos in those. I read Vittorio between TVA and Merrick, and I don’t think he appears in either.
Back then we read everything immediately, fearing every VC novel would be the last; trying times. Hope this helped ^______^