I don’t remember that part, but I definitely saw the movie… hmmm… maybe I blocked it out? But how did the babies even grow in the vampire mother’s wombs? Very strange.
Here’s an article on this… which I’ll leave here, and not read, bc I’m not really wild about this topic at this time, but if you are, go for it! I bet there were a ton of articles like this bc of Breaking Dawn.
Vampire-Human Offspring of Folklore Offer Insights into the Hybrid Baby of ‘Breaking Dawn’
(I think you mean female vampires in adult bodies, and that’s why you mentioned Claudia as not included, while she is female, she has a child’s body; and for the fact that she was the child of Louis and Lestat – she was not a vampire at her mortal birth.)
You might try the Twilight series, bc there’s a pregnant adult female vampire in that! I haven’t read it, but from what I’m told, it’s not a fun experience, to say the least :-[ Similarly, I think Blade is a half-vampire whose mother was mortal and whose father was a vampire. He can walk in the daylight bc of his mortal half, but he still requires blood (or a substitute) for his vampire half.
KEEP IN MIND: you don’t need to agree with me at all! This is just what I think, I think a pregnant vampire story could be very bizarre and horrifying and I rarely see it even attempted in fiction, so I think you could develop this concept and write the story of the pregnant vampire you want to see in the world!
[^X] In my opinion, if we’re talking about just Ricean vampire/vampire or vampire/mortal procreation, I don’t believe that vampires are able to become pregnant or impregnate, whether through penetrative sex or artificial insemination.* That, and the fact that they already have a means of procreation already, which is the blood exchange of the Dark Gift.
… psssst…. Some ppl do not accept it as canon, but if you want a VC book that has vampires+pregnancy, go for the ride that is the book Prince Lestat. A vampire doctor/scientist enables one of the male vampires to have sex and impregnate a mortal woman. She carries this baby to term, and that child ends up being fully human! I would imagine that the vampire doctor/scientist was able to get the male vampire’s ‘boys’ swimming around again from being dormant for like 200+ years (that’s some vintage stuff!), essentially making them mortal again? I don’t know, and thankfully, it’s not explained in much detail.
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*I had written a Wall of Text backing up my statement, but it felt like it was trampling on the curiosity of the anon to have all that, which I didn’t want to do, so I removed it. In the plainest terms, I don’t think Ricean vampires have active sperm or eggs, or a working uterus (has any female vampire in canon EVER mentioned getting her period? Nope!) and you need those to make a baby, even if it’s half-mortal.
I think what probably gets me deeply into my feelings about this “JKR should have just made her students Of Color to start with, she can’t ret-con and pretend she did it right the first time” is that I grew up with Anne Rice and Anne McCaffery, two female fantasy writers who hated headcanons and fandom and sued people for deviating from their original vision or doing any kinds of derivative works without their express contractual permission.
I feel like people who get irritated with her about defending black!Hermione don’t appreciate how much healthier JKR’s attitude toward the inclusivity movement in her fandom is than theirs was. Or Moffat’s is. Or Gatiss’s. Or Whedon’s. Or Green’s. Or even, until very recently, Lucas’s.
She’s not a PCR, but goddamn, at least she’s passing us the milk rather than pissing in our cornflakes.
Jo is actually almost entirely responsible for fanfiction being what it is today.
BUT WAIT, I hear older fandomers cry. X-Files, Star Trek, Xena, how dare you. And yes, I say to those fandomers, you held those banners first! Be proud of the paths you forged. But Jo–
Jo did something no author or creator had ever done before.
She was a household name who encouraged fanfiction.
When I first began writing fanfiction in 1998, it was common practice to preface your fic with this massive disclaimer about how you weren’t selling it, and it was for fun, sometimes quoting the Fair Use part of the Creative Commons act, and even begging authors not to sue. Because in those days, that was a very real danger. Eleven-year-old me had reams of fanfiction on floppy disks I didn’t dare send to archives because I might get arrested and taken to Plagiarism Jail.
And then there was Jo. And no, Jo said, this is not a private amusement park at which you may stare longingly from the other side of wrought-iron gates. It is a giant sandbox. Here are my pails, here are my toys. Come sit and play with me. Eventually you may decide you like some other sandbox better, and all I ask is that you leave my toys here for others to play with, and not try to take them with you. But why should I lock you out of my sandbox? It is, after all, far more fun to play in a sandbox with many people than by yourself.
People were boggled. They didn’t get it. They thought she was crazy. And the fans? They kept loving, and writing, and drawing, and creating, and Jo kept loving them back. Potter Puppet Pals, A Very Potter Musical, Potter!, Remus and the Lupins, all stuff Jo just kind of went “whatever, they’re having fun.”
And attitudes began to change. And then someone else threw her lot in with Jo, someone who doesn’t get a lot of credit for contributing something massive to fandom culture and should:
Stephenie Meyer.
Yeah, you read that right. The goddamn author of Twilight, who refused to sue teenage girls who just wanted Bella to end up with Jacob. (And who is way more gracious than I would be about Fifty Shades.) She actually has a fanfiction archive right on her website! I’m serious: Smeyer has links to a personally-curated list of Twilight fanfiction she personally enjoyed or found interesting. Whatever you may think of her writing, that loving attitude of “we’re all here to have fun, I love that you love my world and my characters, please enjoy” was such a departure from the days of C&D letters and page-long disclaimers.
These two women changed the face of how fandom works forever. Yes, their work is flawed. They are products of their time and upbringing. But just the fact that they embrace the concepts of “my world as I see it and my world as you see it are not the same, and that’s not just okay, that’s good” is something to be celebrated.
I have a lot of issues with Meyer, but her treatment of fans is not one of them.
This is fascinating and all credit to Meyer and Rowling for being so instrumental in changing the culture. I do just want to add that the producers of Xena actually hired a fanfic writer to scriptwrite on their final season. As it often did (with a female TV action hero, with a musical episode), Xena helped to point the way.
EDWAAAARD!!!
[X] //ooc: they are refusing to answer this because they see the Twilight series as the author’s wish fulfillment
fantasy, and they don’t want to step on anyone’s feelings, but neither of them would want to go to high school for centuries, nor do they have any issues killing people now. Lestat is a little jealous of the sparkling tho, so he just wears face and/or body glitter sometimes.
JCB was a somewhat popular FC for Lestat RPers at one time, so your opinion is/was shared by others!
^He already played a vampire in Twilight, but I didn’t see that… Idk if he’d be willing to play another vampire. He looks good in period costume, I’ll admit that, and the makeup/hair team really transformed him. This is 100% better vampiry appearance than QOTD!Lestat (but that’s setting the bar preeeetty low, ROFL).
Personally, I find JCB too thin, so bony, such angular features… but I haven’t seen his acting so it’s unfair to judge him just superficially. He has a lot of theatre experience and he seems quite charming from his quotes on his IMDB page. He might be great! I would definitely screen-test him if I was in charge of things.
[^X I will say that these are some excellent silly faces and our Lestat has to be able to pull of his easy sense of humor, too!]
The fact is, we all have our own ideals of beauty and our own headcanon of these characters. It’s highly unlikely that one actor will satisfy all of our expectations, and @cdf-archive (now @coeur-de-feu) was a Lestat RPer who used JCB as a FC, and they wrote up a great post about JCB as Lestat [X], excerpt below:
“There will always be inconsistencies, everywhere you look. But it’s not really even whether or not I find him perfect. It’s his imperfections that make him perfect, to me. And perhaps that’s what Magnus found in Lestat – his imperfections gave him an indescribable yet authentic beauty and Magnus wanted to immortalize those features by turning Lestat into a vampire, even though Lestat did not want it. It was okay with Magnus that Lestat had a few things here and there that weren’t completely perfect; he found him extraordinarily beautiful, regardless.”
#Eloquent eloquence
Also, check out @cdf-archive’s actual archive to see more pics of JCB, some of them are good promos in a VC-aesthetic which you might like!
“I swear that woman called her children to her in this order; Edward, Jacob, Bella. I almost vomited.”
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//Sorry, my Lestat can’t answer this one 😛 Since I haven’t read many other vampire books or series, I can’t consider what his opinion would be on them!
He’d probably be more into the vampire movies and graphic novels/comics than novels and series. Lestat was into
Sam Spade
comics before it was cool to be a giant nerd! ;D
He does read books, he did a lot of reading to educate himself on the state of the world in 1984, but remember how he felt about Gabrielle’s bookworminess: “I hated the sight of her books; I hated her absorption in them.”
[X by @so-bad-its-effin-awesome]
However, I did ask around and got some recs from other ppl about other vampire books/series Lestat might like:
@riverofwhispers:
Anyone can reblog/comment and add to this what you think Lestat might like to read! We’ll make this a recc post under #vc adjacent recs.
I-want-my-IWTV 