Trying to figure out if you’re ace or aro can be so much harder than other
sexualities because it’s like, trying to find the absence of something. Imagine
you’re at a pond and you want to know if there are any turtles, or fish. Say
you find a turtle and you’re like “great! Now I know there are turtles.” Or a
fish, now you know for sure there are fish. Or you find both, and now you know
for a fact there are both turtles and fish in the pond.
But like, if you don’t find any turtles it might be that there are no
turtles or maybe you’re just really shitty at looking for turtles and maybe you
THINK you saw a turtle over there or maybe it was just a stick. Maybe there are
only a few turtles. Maybe you need to do something special to find the turtles. Maybe a bunch of these rocks are actually turtles but you couldn’t tell them apart.
Maybe there are no turtles. You have no idea. Meanwhile some people are saying “Oh
there have to be turtles! You’ll find them eventually ;)” or “How many turtles
have you found in your pond?” or “Try planting some vegetables at the shore to
attract the turtles.” Or “Oh no! What disaster happened to your pond that there
are no turtles?” And you’re just standing there wet with an empty net and a
tired expression.
But whatever because whether there are turtles or fish or not your pond’s
ecology works just fine without them because that’s what eco-communities do
they form a system around what they have. You aren’t missing anything if you
don’t have turtles you just have a pond system without turtles. If someone
tried to change you by pouring a bunch of turtles into your pond it would
probably fuck something up.
So you don’t have to be entirely sure. You don’t have to search every inch of the damn pond before you can decide there are probably no turtles. If you want to take the aro or ace label because you think it fits go for it. And if you do find your turtles you can rename the pond. That’s fine.
In canon, Louis did explain to Claudia that sex was, for him, the “pale shadow of killing,” and some other negative things about the experience, but it was probably meant more to try to make her feel better about missing out on it. She would never be able to experience it herself :-
In movie!IWTV, Louis seems to spend his mortal nights getting drunk and hiring cheap prostitutes like have you seen the higher quality ones Lestat hires?! so I would say he’s probably sexing them, I wouldn’t think he’s hiring them for their conversational skills…
I can’t find the same info in book!IWTV, about the prostitutes, but he was getting drunk and passing out in cabarets.
Hi, so I’m dying to know what the VC Tumblr fandom thinks about vampire sexuality.
IMO the fact that vampires don’t have sex doesn’t necessarily make them asexual.
I’m thinking about Marius with Amadeo in Blood and Gold, and Louis with the mortal boy in Paris.
There is a passage in IWTV that goes roughly like this: “He pressed his whole body against my legs and I felt the firm strength of his sex under his clothes. A moan escaped from my lips…”
– I translated this myself from the Spanish version, but you get the idea 😉
I’d be thrilled to further discuss vampire sexuality.
That’s all, keep up the good work! 🙂
#Your headcanon may vary.
So I’ve discussed this topic at length in my tags for it: #asexuality, #asexual, #sex, #sexuality, #lets talk about sex.
It all depends on your idea of what sex is, but Anne Rice has been definitive about it:
The scene that you mention between Louis and the mortal boy: Louis is still capable of finding that boy’s hard on to be arousing, but he’s getting alot of sensory input in that moment, and Armand is probably manipulating him psychologically, too.
Marius/Amadeo: Amadeo is mortal and experiencing things differently than Marius is.
I’ll open this to discussion, what are your opinions/headcanon on Ricean vampire sexuality?
//OOC: Yeah, so here’s actual the question I asked on Facebook AND the response, for those interested, since there’s a version going around without the question. Never actually asked about sex just the depth of the relationship, but Anne does usually throw that in during ship questions. (I still apply fanon logic since Ursula banged Vittorio in his book. Discrepancies, love it for fic and RP reasons.)
Yeah.. well, we all read PL, right? In this book EVERYONE loves EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in EVERY moment EVER mentioned! So yeah, of course that Marius loves Daniel. It does not confirm anything.
And sex. Didn’t Lestat say in QOTD that his johnson was like priapus ready for something that could never been performed anymore? Not with pleaure that is. So, well, technically, penetration is possible…but orgasm through that? Nah…
merciful-death said: ooc; Didn’t post the full question because I didn’t want to show disrespect by posting your real name on Tumblr. I apologize.
Yeah, I’d have done the same, Merciful “D”. 😉
//OOC: It was never explicitly stated in PL that Daniel reciprocated feelings for Marius, which is why I asked. With Anne’s response, now we know. Again, the point of this question was the ship, not sex, but the fandom seems incapable of enjoying the happy parts of anything without someone having a fit.
The Vampire Chronicles: If you shipped it, it was or will be canon at some point. The ship whore’s delight.
The sharingz of BLOOD is all a Ricean vampire needs in terms of sexual interaction. This can be a fully clothed or naked
activity, or anywhere in between, and ppl sometimes forget that there is a major artery in the inner thigh called the Femoral Artery which makes for a very sexy place to bite…
BASICALLY your 2 main canon quotes re: asexuality are:
1. Lestat has this to say about his package:
“I studied my reflection … and the organ, the organ we don’t
need, poised as if ready for what it would never again know how to do
or want to do, marble, a Priapus at a gate” – Queen of the Damned
2. Pandora wants Marius to sex her up on their ‘wedding night’ and he can’t do it, but they try, awkwardly:
He covered me and kissed my cheek. “Drink from me,” he said, “drink until the pain goes away. It’s only the body dying, drink Pandora, you are immortal.“ "Fill me, take me,” I said. I reached down between his legs. “It doesn’t matter now.” But it was hard, this organ I sought, the organ forever lost to the god Osiris. I guided it, hard and cold as it was, into my body. Then I drank and drank, and when I felt his teeth again on my neck, when he began to draw from me the new mixture that filled my veins, it was sweet suckling, and I knew him and loved him and knew all his secrets in one flash which meant nothing.
He was right. The lower organs meant nothing.
He fed on me. I fed on him. This was our marriage. –Pandora
Also, there’s little mention in canon of vampire sex other than bloodsharing, so it’s assumed they don’t need it, bc they don’t procreate that way. New vampires are made by sharing blood.
In canon, human/vampire sex it basically non-penetrative, but that all depends on your definition of sex. Is fingering sex? vampires!Marius and Amadeo do that with mortal!Bianca, for example, and she seems very satisfied!
Keep in mind that #Your headcanon may vary, and this is why we have fanfic. Lots of ficwriters write them as fully sexual beings who can do it with vampires or humans.
There are some fics that suggest that human/vampire sex can be harmful to the human, since vampires are stronger in alot of different ways, and some fics suggest human/vampire sex is impossible (like Lois Lane/Superman, how does that even work does he destroy her? It is a mystery).
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