“They know about us. They see us drink from empty glasses and eat from empty plates.”
Louis means it sort of metaphorically in the movie, although why they bothered to pretend to have dinner night after night is a question in itself. Maybe Louis clung to it as a human activity. But what’s so extra funny about that quote is that in the book they actually did have to simulate “dining” sounds for Lestat’s BLIND dad, who was there w/ them!
“Meantime, Lestat and I sat down to dinner each night with the old man and made nice noises with our knives and forks, while he told us to eat everything on our plates and not to drink our wine too fast.” – Louis de Pointe du Lac, Interview with the Vampire
(At this point, Lestat is over 30 mortal yrs old, and Louis is over 24, they’re grown men, but Lestat’s dad is not known for treating anyone with the respect they deserve at their age.)
Chapters: 2/? Fandom: Vampire Chronicles – All Media Types Relationships: Armand/Louis de Pointe du Lac Additional Tags: Angst, Dubious Consent, Mind Control, Mind Manipulation, Emotional Manipulation Summary:
Continuing on with Armand and Louis’s story – New York City in the early part of the twentieth century. A long held secret comes to the fore.
Ah, hmmmmmm…. I don’t remember that specifically, and I’m feeling like I should know that…
^Lee Pace as Marius bc of reasons.
… but I can surmise that since he was the only authority figure anyone paid respect to for awhile, that would naturally lead to them speculating on him abusing such status.
Which he did, somewhat, with Armand, when he took him in. I haven’t personally dissected that ship too thoroughly, so I wouldn’t know.
I’ll open this up to the group: Anyone out there have an answer for this anon?
//Haven’t been around long enough to know (only got into the fandom in 2005), but I would guess it’s just what you said.. that maybe his and Armand’s relationship as it came through in TVA and B&G was a negative surprise to people? Especially compared to how favourably he’s portrayed in say TVL/QotD.
ooc: I think it’s partially the later stuff with TVA and B&G, where he comes off as a not-so-nice guy. But back when there were only three books, Marius was the authority figure trying to implement rules for the vampires, so he was an obvious antagonist for The Brat Prince, resident rule-breaker.
I read the books when I was 13 and was like, “wee everyone is hot” but then I reread them at 27 with more scrutiny and formed some vastly different opinions on characters. I realized I didn’t like Marius at all LMAO it’s just because he’s got a personality I’m not fond of in a man.
So I imagine people might have been “eh *grunts & hand waves*” on Marius and that somehow designated him the one to make the villain when it suited. Fandom is not known for having impartial views on anything – now or back then.
^All good reasons, TVA and B&G would have had a big impact on fandom’s perception of Marius.
Later-canon Marius is very… um… he seems to have misplaced some of his marbles.
#marius I leave u alone with my mortal luvvies for 5 DAMN SECONDS WTF
I don’t recall any specific fic where Marius was controlling or abusive though once TVA came out people began to think of him in less of a positive light partly because of Armand’s specific reveals about him and also because he went against his own advice regarding making a vampire of a child (Armand was 17 which was perhaps why he admonished Lestat against such an action, but then how to explain Benji? Benji was made strong, to be sure, because, well, Marius—but he was still very young and Sybele was more than a little addled, so turning her was risky. It was around that time where people began writing more fic examining his darker side.
Comparison of ironwork on balconies in New Orleans and New York. An unintentional collaboration by @gairid and @i-want-my-iwtv, 3 years apart.
I’ve walked by this balcony on 54th street dozens of times and felt this nostalgia, where was that feeling coming from?! Now I know! My friend @vampchronfic has been using the NOLA balcony shot as their header image! Little piece of NOLA right here in NY *u* I would bet the NOLA balcony was made first, since it has more details and dimensionality, but maybe simplifying that was a design choice for the NY client, since we have harsher weather to contend with here.
@vampchronfic would back me up on this: So I want to say Yes. Louis spends many pleasurable evenings reclining on a plush couch at the Rue Royale, with Lestat’s arm wrapped around his shoulders, a comfy blanket over them both, reading together with their favorite music on, or bingewatching something like Peaky Blinders… we all know Lestat can’t sit perfectly still for very long, so you know he’s petting Louis with his free hand, maybe rearranging the pillows around them, you know… cuddly fidgeting *u*
Louis’ default expression was never a full smile, but it’s closer to a smile now than it ever was in the past. He has the Mona Lisa partial-smile nailed down, and it’s natural. He’s visited Hell and been brought back, found Earth much more pleasant in comparison. He’s got his angel, and they can communicate now in a way that was impossible before. There’s still friction, but any healthy relationship has that and they’re both so in tune with each other that they can diagnose an issue before it spirals too far out of control, “Wait. Are you saying that because you mean it, or are you cranky because you’re hungry?”They’re huge toddlers and it’s usually that.
Who in this world is super smiley all day everyday kind of happy? But yes, Louis is as close to everyday kind of happy that he’s ever been ❤
Okay trying this again (not on the tablet and in the correct blog!)–I’m in full agreement with #i-want-my-iwtv. It’d be odd if Louis had a big ole grin plastered on his face all the time, but as far as contentment and happiness, he’s as close to that as he has ever been in his long life. Lestat knows it and as far as Louis’s concerned, that’s what matters. Because he presents a rather sober appearance you might get the idea he is humorless, but those are the ones you have to watch out for – he’ll slay the room (if you will pardon the expression) with a well-placed one liner. As for smiling–sure he does—but those mega-watt smiles? I’d guess he saves most of those for Lestat.
@vampchronfic would back me up on this: So I want to say Yes. Louis spends many pleasurable evenings reclining on a plush couch at the Rue Royale, with Lestat’s arm wrapped around his shoulders, a comfy blanket over them both, reading together with their favorite music on, or bingewatching something like Peaky Blinders… we all know Lestat can’t sit perfectly still for very long, so you know he’s petting Louis with his free hand, maybe rearranging the pillows around them, you know… cuddly fidgeting *u*
Louis’ default expression was never a full smile, but it’s closer to a smile now than it ever was in the past. He has the Mona Lisa partial-smile nailed down, and it’s natural. He’s visited Hell and been brought back, found Earth much more pleasant in comparison. He’s got his angel, and they can communicate now in a way that was impossible before. There’s still friction, but any healthy relationship has that and they’re both so in tune with each other that they can diagnose an issue before it spirals too far out of control, “Wait. Are you saying that because you mean it, or are you cranky because you’re hungry?”They’re huge toddlers and it’s usually that.
Who in this world is super smiley all day everyday kind of happy? But yes, Louis is as close to everyday kind of happy that he’s ever been ❤
I-want-my-IWTV 