The Tale of the Body Thief – LOL

cloudsinvenice:

antoineandthepiano:

i-want-my-iwtv:

antoineandthepiano:

Ooc; one of my favourite parts in the The Tale of the Body Thief is when Lestat burns Loius’ little shack down. He gathered priceless art so they won’t burn and uses Louis’ own candles to burn down the place while uttering:

“Oh, you deserve this, you treacherous ungrateful bastard!”

Followed by:

“Louis, I wish I could burn you! I’d do it! Oh, if only I knew where you lie by day!”

Lestat and Louis use fire to get back at each other. It must be love!

i-want-my-iwtv

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That was a particularly dark moment for us. I still bear a scar – albeit figurative – for that scathing betrayal, even as I’ve come to understand the logic of his decision at the time, but giving him a taste of his own kerosene certainly helped. 

//Lestat your response is so perfect.

I had somehow forgotten that he saved the paintings; that somehow makes it the perfect OTT Lestat gesture. And he wonders why Marius (somehow survived his house being burnt down, 1499) is so mad at him!

FUCK U LOUIS BUT IMMA SAVE MY MONETS

cloudsinvenice:

nodominion:

//Sooo on my very stressful and not fun at all vacation I re-read Interview and TVL. I started QotD as well, but only got as far as Jesse’s introduction. Out of the series so far QotD remains my favorite. It’s masterfully put together, with each chapter/section the perfect length, all the while building proper suspense. It does perfectly what PL failed at, which is what disappoints me more about PL than any plot point.

As I read I highlighted passages [*pets my Kindle*] I found interesting/enlightening, especially since I’ve read all the VC books now and have 20/20 hindsight. Putting this under a read-more to save your dash.

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I tend to blame Anne for the internalised misogyny (and she has copped to it herself), but I also find it canonically explicable (because I always have this urge to explain annoying canon things rather than disregard them) – I can see Marius (coming from the culture that he does, and having had only brothers, and being very insightful in some ways but really fucking stupid in others) being the kind of clueless misogynist who tells the women he loves that they’re “not like the other girls” and doesn’t grasp how insulting that is. 

And god, I would kill for first-person POV books or even fucking sections for Gabrielle and Bianca. She’s at least shown she can still write Gabrielle, and Bianca was one of many characters brought back in PL, but with very little done with her. I’m not holding my breath for it to happen (’least expectations, least disappointment’ seems a good rule of thumb), but it’s a massive hole in the series, to my mind. 

Vampire Chronicles Fandom Demographics Survey

cloudsinvenice:

peachyprivilege:

Hey, I made a demographics survey for the vc fandom (for curiosity’s sake). Please fill it out if you have the time, and reblog so we can get more accurate results. I’ll post the results in a few weeks. Thank you!

This is a really interesting project and I’m looking forward to seeing the results! 

OuO Yes! Do this!

Vampire Chronicles Fandom Demographics Survey

cloudsinvenice:

I just had to excerpt this from i-want-my-iwtv‘s post yesterday, because it is a great truth and worthy of our study. Also look at my fucking brilliant underlining.

Awww! I actually got that particular turn of phrase from that Amazon review of Prince Lestat and I will never be able to unread it:

“…THIS is who every last Vampire is trusting their very existence to, this suicidal hamburger brained moron called Lestat.”

Did you like Prince Lestat?

cloudsinvenice:

Me and i-want-my-iwtv were just talking about how Rose’s story is like a limp retread of Jesse’s. I never hated her the way a lot of people did when the book came out, but it is incredibly striking on re-read, and I keep wondering if that was a conscious decision; was AR thinking, “Well, we need something structurally similar to Jesse’s origin story in there…” 

As to Lestat taking on the Sacred Core, though, it wasn’t a supported decision – it was a fait accompli with which Lestat presented the others. The suggestions beforehand boiled down to “leave Amel with Mekare” or “make a new weak fledgling as a vessel to force Amel into”, but they’d intended to discuss it, and then of course Mekare came to Lestat and wanted to give him Amel anyway, and Lestat went with the moment, as he does… I don’t entirely blame the rest of them for rolling with it; the alternative would be to kill Lestat and transfer Amel to another host, and I don’t think any of them really wants to do either. 

What I’m most curious about now are the implications of Lestat’s life not really being his own – he’s already tetchy when one of the others points out that he can’t just disappear and go into radio silence anymore… he says that this responsibility for everyone else’s existence is what he needs to keep him going, but it’ll be interesting to see how that works in practice!

^ALL OF THIS. Strenuously agree. Also a problematic and intense David/Lestat scene that is not to be missed. Can’t throw the whole thing out.

And I can’t put any of that under any cuts bc of formatting, sorry for spoilers. 

Rose’s whole story felt very Mary Sue.  That’s not to say that Rose is a Mary Sue, and I’d bet money we get to see her again in Blood Paradise, but her backstory felt very much like something you’d read on a fanfic on Fanfiction.net in 2002.

Yes, it majorly did, (her shitty ex is named GARDNER like a gardener, and her name is ROSE like a pwetty flower, omg does it get any Mary Sueier?) I’m hoping fanfic and nodominion can make Rose more likable. NO PRESSURE of course. 

merciful-death:

ooc; I’m assuming this is an OOC question.

I wrote a review for Prince Lestat right after reading it, and I think my opinions may have actually changed a bit since then.

Do I think it’s the worst VC?  No.  Not at all.  Far from it.  That said, I generally describe things better in bullet point lists.

Things I liked:

  • We got to see Lestat as Lestat.  He was so much more in character in this book than he’s been in a long while, in my personal opinion.
  • Louis’ epilogue was my absolute favorite part of the book.  I actually adored it.
  • Gabrielle was very on-point and her bits with Lestat were amazing.
  • I think learning about what Bianca was up to was really cool, whether people accept it into their headcanons or not.
  • Marius was actually enjoyable for me to read in Prince Lestat.  Being completely honest, I have not enjoyed his character much since his appearance in The Vampire Lestat, so that was pleasant.
  • We got an explanation for that “unnamed musician” that Lestat made a vampire in Interview with the Vampire.  Pretty neat, although again, some people have very big headcanons on this that they’ve developed in the years that VC was “ended,” so I completely get why a lot of people won’t entirely accept Antoine.
  • Speaking of Antoine, I loved the subtle shade from Louis towards Antoine.  I don’t even know if it was intentional that Armand listed everyone at Trinity Gate as loving Antoine with the exception of Louis or if it was just a slip up from Anne, but it cracked me up.  Damn straight, Louis doesn’t like Antoine.
  • Louis and Lestat had a canon kiss scene and were all lovey-dovey and professed their love for each other, so idk, there is absolutely nothing to hate about that.
  • Jesse and David were generally entertaining.

Things I did not like:

  • All.of.the.new.characters.  It’s hard to sift through them all.  I have no problem with new characters being introduced, but it felt like we had SO MUCH thrown at us at once in PL.
  • A million retellings of a story we already know.  The book felt very slow to get going.  I didn’t feel like the plot was really moving until I was over halfway through it.
  • There was some retcon that bothered me.  Well, a lot of retcon that bothered me.
  • Rose’s whole story felt very Mary Sue.  That’s not to say that Rose is a Mary Sue, and I’d bet money we get to see her again in Blood Paradise, but her backstory felt very much like something you’d read on a fanfic on Fanfiction.net in 2002.
  • Viktor’s whole existence makes no sense based on prior canon, but that goes back to my whole “all the retcon” point.
  • It made no sense to me why anyone would think that putting the entire lifeline of the vampire race into a guy who has made so many stupid decisions.  Like, why was this a supported decision by the vast majority of vampires.  Why.
  • Armand seemed non-existent in this book.  I have to read all of his parts as extreme sarcasm to be able to handle it.
  • Speaking of which, there were a lot of reactions I felt characters should have had where they instead just sat there and said nothing.  Like, Armand reuniting with Daniel.  Or even more so, Armand reuniting with Bianca, who he had not seen in centuries.
  • Some characters still felt OOC.
  • DANIEL MALLOY.

In general, the book had some strong points and low points.  Yes, I did like some of Prince Lestat, but in general, if I were to read it again, I’d probably start half way through the book because the first half was really, really boring to me.

These are all just my personal opinions.  I encourage everyone to read Prince Lestat and make your own decisions about the book.  Some people will love it!  Some people will absolutely hate it.  I feel very neutral at this point.

As to Lestat taking on the Sacred Core, though, it wasn’t a supported decision – it was a fait accompli with which Lestat presented the others.

I feel like they were all sort of gearing up to volunteer him for the position, partly out of selfishness (who would want that irritating backseat driver in their body for eternity?) and partly out of this general feeling among them that as hamburger-brained as Lestat can be, his intentions are usually good, clearly more so than others Marius! looking at you, so he seemed to be a good choice for Next Top Queen King of the Damned. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, hence, “Prince.” 

vcpositivity:

directmydesire:

Omg! Hi vcpositivity !

Thanks for the follow! Love reading fandom ppl loving on each other.

Even though I’m totally unknown in the VC fandom, I’ve followed it and lurked around off and on since 2001 when I was just an 8th grader.

These books and characters are a huge part of my life!

Hey there! That’s a really long time to lurk around! We here don’t like to see people feeling like their on the outskirts of the fandom-we want everyone to feel welcome and like they’re a part of our community; so if you’d like, there are tons of great people that the admins here look up to who would be willing to make you feel more welcome, and maybe get your name a bit more out there! 

I personally know that i-want-my-iwtv, cloudsinvenice, and annabellioncourt are more than welcoming and would love talking to you and anyone else who wants to get more involved with the fandom. Also, you can talk to merciful-death and see about being added to her all-inclusive skype group to meet some great people. 

And of course, an amazing way to feel closer to the characters and other people of the fandom is to send in asks to any of the great roleplay blogs floating around. Not only can you ask them about personal headcanons, but some blogs will actually give you a chance to talk to the characters themselves. 

(This turned out waaaay longer than I had initially planned, and I definitely don’t want you to feel like I’m pressuring you into participating more if you don’t want to. It’s absolutely okay if you’re most comfortable lurking about. We just want to make sure everyone knows there are many open doors for those who want to feel closer to the action!)  

^Could not have said this better myself.

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cloudsinvenice:

vcpositivity:

To the anon who doesn’t feel welcome in the fandom:

I’m sorry, but I won’t be posting your confession publicly. I’m extremely sorry you’ve had a bad experience in the VC fandom; however, I would be very happy if you’d message me off of anon, and we could discuss your experiences in private. I’m sure that I could hook you up with tons of lovely people who would be open to interacting with you, and who would love to make you feel welcome. 

If any of you want to message me off of anon to talk, I promise not to post any of your messages publicly. The fanmail option is always there, and if you start a message with //, then I’ll know it’s meant to be private.

And as always, I want you all to know that every single one of you are welcome here!

Seconded. Nobody should have to feel unwelcome in this fandom. ❤

^THIRDED. I’m always willing to reply privately as well. Fanmail is best for that. 

There’s been too much drama in the past, we should aim to enjoy each other positively *u*

vcpositivity:

“Shout out to cloudsinvenice! Her insights on the characters and books are always a treat to read, and have pointed me things that I would’ve never thought on my own & that have made the entire VC canon more enjoyable. She’s also the kindest, most welcoming and understanding person ever to grace the world of fandom, who just naturally seems to go the extra mile to make everybody feel welcomed. She deserves a big mental hug for being so great in all matters.”

^THIS. SO MUCH. Very well-put.

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