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OK real talk rn. I can’t stand Armand like at all! Please tell me I’m not the only one, I just hate him, like what is his issue with literally everyone but sometimes Louis and Marius???

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Well Armand probably wouldn’t like you, if that makes you feel any better! I feel that he is essential to the series and he’s my best friend’s spirit animal so I have to defend him.

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[^Armand by @garama]

He has very specific reasons to have tension w/ Louis and Marius, you might not have gotten to that info yet 😉 Maybe you’ll change your mind about him when you get more of his background.

This is why I loved earlier canon so much more than the recent stuff, there were rich layers with characters like Armand. We first meet him in IWTV as the mysterious leader of the Theatre des Vampires, he’s unlike anyone else Louis has ever met and they are enthralled with eachother. Armand is as alluring as Lestat was to mortal!Louis, but in entirely different ways. The more we learn about Armand as we go on through canon, the more we find that he wasn’t simply a survivor of horrible crap that’s happened to him, he’s actively tried to improve his circumstances, he learns from experiences, he is a sponge for knowledge, he has major trust issues with alot of other characters, he’s got a great sense of humor but he’s also really bitter, he craves love but struggles with receiving it, just, ARMAND. SO MUCH MORE than meets the eye.

Anyway if you like Louis at all, ya gotta remember that Armand rescued him from being walled inside a coffin upside-down for eternity so… y’know… there’s that.

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Keep in mind mortal!Louis suffered from claustrophobia, and still felt it as a vampire sometimes, so this would have been an even worse punishment for him.

Lestat is a Capricorn but there’s no information on Louis’ birthday. I always think that he’s a Cancer or Pisces. What do you think? lol

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What you’re asking is not written explicitly in canon, iirc, but fandom has generally accepted the following info, maybe bc AR told us over the years? I don’t remember when we were told…

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  • Lestat’s birthday is November 7, the birthday of Anne Rice’s late husband Stan (whom she partially modeled Lestat after).
  • Louis’ birthday is October 4, which is Anne’s birthday.
  • Claudia mentions her birthday in her diary (in QOTD) as being September 21, but she’s not sure if that’s really her birthday and her dads won’t explain it further

    (it’s probably the day she was turned, given the context of the diary entry). That’s Michele Rice’s birthday, Anne’s late daughter.

So Lestat is a Scorpio and Louis is a Libra. I don’t know much about astrology, you’ll have to take it from there, anon!

I love how everytime someone meets Louis for the first time theres pages and pages describing his beauty. its kind of hilarious but also makes it kind of impossible for me to imagine anyone who could be cast in the new adaption. do you have any ideas

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YEP SAME HERE and that’s another reason why I am so attached to Brad’s Louis, I mean c’mon, he was in his long-haired sexy prime in the early-mid 90s. Men at the time were complaining that he was too feminine to be sexy but that’s part of what we frickin’ loved about him.

@lettersfromjericho​ put it so eloquently here:

I love how in all the books, regardless of whose talking Louis is described as ‘the pretty one’. Vampires in Anne Rice novels are all described as being beautiful in some way, death making them so. But in a supernatural world populated by Beauties, characters need to spend pages gushing about Louis looks. His utter bafflement at this and the other characters gushing make me laugh every time its brought up. [X]

Casting Louis is going to be SO hard bc everyone’s headcanon varies. I want an animated movie bc fanart always depicts him better than any casting idea, for me anyway *pouts bc we will never get an animated VC movie* 

Dig around in my #vc casting tag for Louis ideas, I’d rather not name picks here and open up that discussion bc I’m not really committed to the ones in my casting tag, and really, as long as he has strong chemistry with the actor cast as Lestat, we can all probably accept some physical deviations from canon. 

I was thinking the same while we were watching it. My cousin was like “He’s awful…but I like him.” She liked Louis too he just wasn’t her favorite. She cheered when he destroyed the theater vampires, lol. She didn’t care for Armand much but that’s understandable given the circumstances.

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Louis agrees w/ your cousin.

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Armand is a Santiago & Armand hybrid ok jeez and he can’t be THAT offensive to someone who hasn’t read the book(s)!

So I have a question that maybe you could answer? Why are people not excited for the new book? I definitely understand that the new title and storyline sounds a bit iffy but I just thought people would be excited that Anne Rice is writing new books and continuing the series. I know I’m a bit younger than most in this fandom, IWTV came out wayy before I was even born so maybe that’s why I don’t understand haha. Thanks!

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Some ppl definitely ARE excited for the new book! There was alot of excitement and cautious optimism for Prince Lestat. 

I feel like I have a good perspective on this bc I have been in this fandom for 20+ years even tho book!IWTV came out before I was born, too. I’d have to ask a more veteran fandom person what it was like when they got the sequel(s) to IWTV! I got into the fandom right before the movie came out in ‘94, when we only had the first 4 books, so I looked forward to every new book with some level of excitement and that’s hard to shake even now *u*

New titles and storylines have often sounded more than a bit iffy and there has often been resistance to each new VC book. Alot of ppl didn’t think they would like TOBT or MtD, and some read those and still refuse to accept either as canon.

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[X] Ppl have their own ideas of the characters in their minds. As AR continues delve into their perspectives on previous events and give them new stories in each new book, some ppl choose to “get off the bus” along the way, bc they don’t necessarily trust her vision and they don’t want to see their fave character(s) in characterization they feel is off, or forced into plots that make no sense, etc. And we can’t blame AR for this but the trainwreck that was movie!QOTD, so much was off that it was offensive, and yet, surprisingly, some ppl find that movie nostalgic! ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Some ppl actually trust the fanfic writers and/or fanartists more than the author at this point, bc many of our awesome fanfic writers and fanartists learned the voices and attitudes of the characters and try to keep them in the style that drew us to them in the first place ❤

Hello! I’m a little new, may I ask why the Prince Lestat series isn’t canon? I haven’t read up to it yet

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So I don’t know how new you are, and what you’ve seen and/or read, but unlike many other fandoms: We do not all accept all of the books (and the 2 movies) in our series as CANON. 

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[^Louis doesn’t really approve of the series as a whole.]

All of us are into VC for our own reasons, and there are some ppl who are into it specifically for certain characters, time periods, cosplay ideas, etc. Ppl whose interests are similar tend to find eachother and make closer friendships within the larger fandom. Anything that you do not accept as canon can be considered AU or written off as being told by an unreliable narrator, bc all of our characters are unreliable narrators! They all know someone in the coven will read their account of things and they may *~embellish~* the truth if they want to do so ;] Scenes are often retread from different characters’ POVs. You can choose which version you want to trust. Maybe there are elements of both that you find acceptable. 

Even AR doesn’t accept all of the books as canon: she said that

Prince Lestat does not follow the VC/Mayfair hybrid books (Blood Canticle was intended to be the last VC). She wrote PL almost as a stand alone book and lots of ppl seem to be coming into the fandom from that book without reading IWTV which is fine, and more power to them! You don’t need to read the books that lead up to it but you’ll get a deeper appreciation of some of the main characters if you at least read the first 3 books in the series before you read PL. 

Hit the jump for more, cut for length.

Re: differing headcanons: We still have disagreements about what Louis’ hair really looks like, bc some ppl were influenced by movie!IWTV, the official graphic novels, and the fanart which interprets it in different ways. We still disagree over whether Lestat was 20 or 21 when he was turned, and AR herself doesn’t always answer these canon questions explicitly herself (maybe bc she left it ambiguous on purpose, or she forgot, or whatever other reasons). 

Re: PL: There are parts of PL I can accept, just not the whole thing. There are alot of new characters introduced who I personally did not find as engaging as the old set, and the old set did not always behave in ways that seemed true to their own previously established characterizations throughout the book. Other ppl have different opinions. We have RPers who chose the new characters to RP, so they probably accept these new characters as canon.

I probably won’t accept Prince Lestat and the Realms of Atlantis as anything more than AU either, bc it follows PL.

Reasons why fandom won’t accept PLROA as canon:

The main reason would be that AR herself has told us to disregard the Mayfair crossover books. In terms of her own headcanon, she didn’t want to tie these in with the events that follow in PL. So her own books diverge from her own timeline. 

A secondary reason would be the earlier books in the series are generally accepted as the stronger stories with the characters best written. 

What is Louis favorite opera?

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[^Appropriate gif bc he’s all decked out for the opera]

I know like 3% about opera/musicals/plays so @annabellioncourt helped me out w/ this one. She says (btw this was a chat so italics are my comments and I edited it into this format, and she can correct me however needed):

  • FAUST – As a vampire he prefers Faust, which is about a man who sold his soul to a devil for youth and fame, and I think its self explanatory as to why he’s drawn to it.

    So for Louis, the themes of darkness and the dark side of religion and the supernatural, the cost of damnation, those themes in Faust would stick out to him, even if the story itself is not one he approves of. The audience is not supposed to like the character of Faust.

  • Don Giovanni is just an amazing show, and was incredibly popular during the 19th century. As a mortal, Louis had a soft spot for Giovanni (but never admitted to liking anything other than French opera). It’s about a man who’s a womanizing creep, but at the end he’s dragged to hell by demons and the ghost of the father of a woman he wronged. In opera, the themes and music are always more important than the story.

  • Phantom of the Opera: (technically a musical but still) Louis would definitely enjoy POTO. 
  • Les Mis: Lestat tolerates Les Mis bc even though its not THE French Revolution, its anti-aristocracy themes bother him.

    Lestat loves some of the characters in Les Mis tho, like Enjolras (who he says looks like him). Louis enjoys it; he finds it patriotic.

  • Elisabeth, the German musical:

    Its a rock musical and Louis would love this. The “Der Tod,” his character is basically Lestat. It’s about the Austrian empress and her life, as well as a love triangle with herself, her husband, and Death himself. Der Tod is German for Death. And he’s a main character.

Louis would probably enjoy any of the “traditional” musicals, but the more rock based ones would be more up Lestat’s alley.

Hi there, sorry to rise from the void of silence like this, I don’t mean to be a bother, but I just read something I’m sure was an hallucination… Mermaid book? Am I high? What is going on?

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If nothing else, you better believe it’s gonna be the best fish story you ever heard!

Lestat: “Louis, the truth is, the ghost that made the first vampire, well, it was an Atalantayan* and we are all in fact Atalantayans so practice your backstroke bc we’re going on a field trip to the bottom of the seeeea!”

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We really don’t know much of the story, just that it involves Lestat and Atlantis, so we’ve been making alot of mermaid jokes but we have no idea whether there will be any. Check my #PLROA tag, that’s where I put stuff about it as more info comes in.

*This is the actual word in canon, allegedly. AR must be getting a bonus for extra vowels these days.

About the poised/boner (the same anon btw) book referances Priapos actually therefore im just going to imagine Louis screaming and running away from Lestat lol. I didnt read the book in English, the line in mine translates “standing erect” in English

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(Re: the ongoing debate about the “Priapus at a gate” quote. But let’s not go there, plz don’t send me messages about it, I’ve stated my opinion so many times ffs!) 

Louis spent a lot of time screaming and running away from Lestat, that’s just canon. But he always usually came back on his own ❤

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[I didnt read the book in English, the line in mine translates “standing erect” in English]

^Oh wow, this may actually be the source of many ppl’s headcanon on this! We can’t expect you to disagree w/ a translator but for them to define it that way would certainly influence your headcanon…

BUT I just CANNOT ACCEPT THE IDEA that they are all walking around w/ permanent boners, as Louis would say: “I can’t. Or more truly, I will not.”

I just feel like it would have gotten alot more canon support if that were really the case. It’s referred to as being like the rest of their flesh, which is usually just compared to marble.

Let’s respect #your headcanon may vary on this topic.