Louis & Lestat by Garama
//ooc: This is another fairly old ask, from November, 2017. I think anon was trying to rile Lestat by calling Louis “a sad sack of a man and doesn’t really seem to be worth loving.” Limiting him to just being “beautiful.” And while it is fun to rile Lestat and see how he reacts, idk… I was kind of taken aback by this and I had too many thoughts about it to have Lestat respond flippantly, which he would have. I think Lestat either gets defensive about loving Louis, or just dismisses these kinds of comments, one less person for him to compete with for Louis’ attention, lol.
TL;DR: I think when ppl ask that, part of where they may be coming from is that THEY feel like a “sad sack” who’s maybe not worth being loved, especially by the main character in a series, a flashy glittery murder machine. They worry that even if they’re loved for being “beautiful” that that really isn’t enough for a relationship, and that’s absolutely true, if we’re defining beauty as superficial characteristics. The beauty of Louis, to me, is in his character, and the emotions of the scene.
I’ve written a lot about what draws me, as a reader, to love Louis, probably the best stuff is in my #we appreciate and love louis in this house tag. But I’ll try not to go overboard and answer you here, anyway!
I think the deal with describing Louis as *~SO beautiful~* is partly that, hey, it’s fun to do, like having a favorite flower, and AR takes the opportunity to remind us of it, and put the camera on him in a scene, so we know he’s present. It also serves a purpose, we usually get at least a scrap of context about him and/or the scene:
“I glared at him, at the sharp graceful angles of his imperturbable face, […] his wide-set eyes, with their fine rich black lashes. How perfect the tender indentation of his upper lip.” -Lestat, The Tale of the Body Thief
^Let’s take this line and unpack it a little:
It’s the tension of Lestat and other characters pining for Louis that AR wrings every drop out for us, she’s showing us how helpless these other characters are that they can only try to capture Louis with descriptions since he defies being owned by anyone. Unrequited love is a powerful thing.
Bringing these back, in case anyone else missed them and want to indulge in some Louis praise/discussion:
So, re: Anon might be identifying with Louis:
We can find ourselves slipping into the characters we love and identify with. Some ppl find Lestat relatable in his lust for life, self-centeredness, refusal to quit, constantly screwing up and berating himself in the narrative (but rarely being able to outright apologize to those he hurts)… a flawed character for sure but an inspiring one.
I think some ppl who relate to Louis and feel less flashy, less glamorous, there’s smtg very appealing about how such a character could be so idolized by the more flashy and glamorous one. What could such a *rockstar* like Lestat find attractive in Louis?? You said yourself Louis is a sad sack. And yes, beauty is not enough to keep a relationship going. But, as I mentioned above, Louis’ beauty is often described in a context that charges it with the emotions of the scene. At least to my reading, there’s more conveyed than just eye color.
Still, why wouldn’t Lestat demand someone who was more like himself?
But here’s the thing I think a lot of ppl miss when they’ve only seen movie!IWTV, or only read a few of the books.
^Louis & Lestat by @garama
I personally believe that Lestat sees in Louis a similarly wounded soul with a lust for life. At their core, neither really want to die. Louis kept getting into fights with ppl bc he couldn’t kill himself as a mortal. Lestat has stubbornly refused to die his entire life and has had plenty of reason to want death. They’ve both almost killed themselves and been brought back. There’s a similar torment in them dealing with their natures.
As an anon put it so eloquently: “I think ppl forget that Louis is just as passionate and vengeful as Lestat, it’s just that he isn’t as vocal or showy about it. He’s more intimate and intense.”
The way they communicate/express themselves, and the way they practice self-care is vastly different. Lestat builds up his beautiful shell with retail therapy, redecorating and refurbishing his dwellings, and attending all kinds of shows and making elaborate plans with his kills, just spoiling himself silly. Always down for indulging his senses. He’s chasing new experiences, learning the new slang, trying to keep himself in the latest fashions. Novelty.
Louis prefers his nights at home, low-drama, in his own creature comforts, with his books and poetry to escape into. We don’t know much of what he’s read but he seems to want to spend eternity reading. What is reading? Even if it’s nonfiction, it’s learning, being told a story, being more informed. It’s novelty, too. Escapism through the imagination.
And their personalities seem to complement each other. Lestat’s lust for adventure spices up Louis’ otherwise too-calm existence. Louis’ calm and dignified manner brings Lestat back down to earth when he gets too untethered. Their bickering is bc they care for each other, can see beneath each other’s disguises. Louis sees the frightened boy inside the frustration that makes Lestat lash out and attack first. Lestat sees the potential in Louis of someone who, if he could get over his inhibitions, could experience so much more in his life.
“…but if I did have to choose, the companion would be Louis. My longest most enduring friendship and love affair in this world was with Louis. And though his limitations can be maddening, they can also be as inspiring to me as his virtues… the best choices we make are not always the wise choices. Sometimes they are intensely emotional choices. And I’ve always had a deep Romantic respect for emotion. My love for Louis transcends wisdom. And I may need the pain as much as the consolation that an eternal relationship with Louis would involve.“
^This is one of those moments I talk about where I feel like she recaptures the old magic, taps into the vein (pun intended) that got us all addicted to this series in the first place. Why I can’t just discard the crackier later books. She’s not all that specific here, but it’s believable. At least, to me. Lestat admits that Louis’ limitations (and this can be so many things, things Lestat disagrees with him about as well as things Louis refuses to do) can be maddening, and inspiring.
And he admits that his love for Louis transcends wisdom. That may be a cop-out answer, but I’ve felt that kind of love in my life. Inexplicably bound to someone, despite the math of the personalities not seeming to mesh.
Love works in mysterious ways. Even for beautiful sad sacks and the arrogant bastards who love them ❤
Hello, all the VC fans! Sorry for being (very) late to the party! I hope your year has started well and that it’ll hold positive surprises for you.
Thank you for supporting me all these years. It always warms my heart to get messages from you. If you can and like, please spread your positive vibes to others as well..! Messages like that can have a huge effect on a person, on their self-esteem, general mood and make them be less afraid to share their interests/love in forms of different media in the future as well.
Take care of yourselves, you Damned children!
Back during the time when it was popular to bash Twilight for both legitimate reasons (Edward being borderline abusive to Bella, the whole child grooming plot point in Breaking Dawn, etc.) and not (REAL VAMPIRES DON’T SPARKLE THATS GAY), I saw this meme on Facebook where it was Louis and Lestat from Interview With The Vampire commenting on Edward’s sparkling and making fun of him for being gay. Like… Buddy My Guy. My Fair Dude. My Dear Sweet Homophobic Idiot. Not only are the Vampires in IWTV super duper gay, you’re lying to yourself if you think Lestat wouldn’t slam dunk his entire body into a tub of glitter on any given occasion. You Fool. You Imbecile.
Lestat: WHY DON’T WE GLITTER I WAS ROBBED
Louis: Does he ask our pity? He can walk in the sunlight, whereas we, foul creatures of darkness as we are, are forever barred from God’s kindly li –
Lestat, upending a pound of iridescent craft glitter on his head: SHUT UP LOUIS
Everyone on this post is gonna be sued by Anne Rice
Okay, but this is missing out on the glorious tags of the OP:
#what kind of SAVAGE AND AN IDIOT would ever imagine Lestat#a man who crawled out of the swamps of new orleans because his ex wrote a book and was /getting more attention than him/#and then proceeded to become a GLAM ROCK DIVA and Slut For Fame™️#just so people wouldn’t forget who was Doing Better after the breakup#wouldn’t just absolutely snort a tub of glitter like so much expensive cocaine#lestat de lioncourt – ultimate nightmare toreador#cowards#have you met him even once
I resisted doing this but I have no choice MUST ADD:
From my reading, I think their families knew, I don’t know to what extent they faced prejudice for being lovers, I don’t know what that must have been like in the 18th century in France.
[^fanart by @garama] I would assume that they did have to face prejudice and other harassment for being lovers, but that they chose to stay together in spite of the prejudice/harassment, it was something they could weather.
I’m not an expert, anyone want to chime in?
Sorry for taking so long to reply! And for the long reply…
I’ve been thinking this for a good while (how to keep my answer short and relevant, and not get judged that hard because of my taste, haha!)
- It depends how much immersion I need at the moment when creating
- Last few years I’ve mostly listened to Nordic pagan inspired music, as I’ve been more interested of Finnish culture’s origins, mythology and it’s ancient religion.
- Not Finnish bands nor are the subject matter related to Finnish paganism, but examples of the genre:
- I’ve recently been into music with vampire, bloodborne and dark souls vibes, too. Examples:
- Elend Silent Slumber – A God That Breeds Pestilence
- Soap&Skin – Me And The Devil
Night of the Hunt – Dance of the Blood-Drunk
- If I need more cheerful music, Capsule is the stuff!
- I create playlists for characters, settings, milieus they’re in, or for a imaginary scenes. Sometimes I spend days just for those, doing nothing else in my free time, than searching for fitting music.
- For d&d and tabletop related characters and stuff I like to use cinematic music, and/or musical like songs, which sounds rich and dramatic to me. They inspire me a lot..! Examples:
- The Devil’s Carnival – Trust Me
- Hidden Citizen – It’s A Sin
Repo! The Genetic Opera
- The only organized character playlist I currently have is Lempo’s that I made last year. But these are really thrilling (and really, really time consuming for me at least) to make. Helps me to build personality and backgrounds for the characters.
Belated gift for @garama!! Who wanted Christmas sweaters! 😀
(If the animation doesn’t work bc this is Tumblr, here is a stable link to the animated and non-animated version.)
I love this comic so much!
Even more because last christmas one of my cousins crossed the border to buy a Forever 21 sweater with lights AND music (since it wasn’t available in Mexico XD). ANd obviously she rocked the shiny sweater on christmas. With her husband, who was basically Daniel in this comic.
Hey I’m on board w/ your cousin, I’d cross a border for a sweater with lights and music (??!!), too. going to all that effort you better believe I’d wear it outside of christmas too