bakalucjan:

it’s probably anatomical disaster but i don’t care :’D

Lestat&Louis from Vampire Chronicles 

~Vampires have especially flexible parts~

I saw that someone asked about Louis and Claudia’s “relationship” and that made me think of a scene in the book where Claudia basically asks Louis how it feels to have sex/make love. What do you think about that? I thought Claudia was kind of curious because she looks like a child bit really isn’t but at the same time she can’t experience anything an adult can do like have sex. What are your thought?

Yes we were just talking about that, I have a new tag for that kinda topic: To ship or not to ship. This is a huge topic but I will try to be concise.

Apparently in a alternate draft version of IWTV, Claudia finds a few young boy vampires in Paris and ends up leaving Louis for them. Would that have been better? Would she have had a sexual relationship with them, bc they alone shared her problem and could overcome it? I like to think so ❤

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So in the actual book, with that scene… She gets Louis to share that sex “‘…was something hurried…And… it was seldom savored… something acute that was quickly lost. I think that it was the pale shadow of killing.’” It’s not clear whether he tells her that bc:

  1. it’s physically accurate (bc Ricean vampires cannot has penetrative sex with their equipment, therefore they’re all asexual)(that’s canon), 
  2. he’s saying it so as not to hurt her feelings and make her feel like she’s really missing out, or
  3. he actually feels that way? Is killing so much better? Or did he really not enjoy mortal sex that much? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS.

…of course in fanon, they do all have sexytimes, constant degenerate frackin, and Claudia knows damn well What They Do in the Shadows, and why they sign her up for all this tutoring, and she’s jealous as HELL but I digress…

Then, she says: (I’m paraphrasing) “Hurting you like I’m doing now, that is also a pale shadow of killing?”Louis admits that YES it is, and he pretty much bolts out the door at that point…which I think is especially powerful bc it implies he has admitted to her that she is fucking him with her words alone. And he does not like it. As much as he wants to please her, it is a clear rejection of her in that regard, yet again unu

gingerhairedimmortal, claudiaindarkness, might have opinions on this, too.

Hit the jump for unpopular opinions about Claudia, but basically, I think she could have experienced all the intimacy that the adult Ricean vampires experience, because they are asexual in canon, and instead share blood as their *~HIGHER~* form of intimacy. Unfortunately for her, Claudia never really had a relationship with anyone that wanted to do that with her ;A;

It’s worth mentioning that they auditioned about 100 little girls for the role in IWTV, and no 5-7 yr old could handle the part. With Kirsten Dunst (auditioned first), who I think was 11 at the time, it made Claudia’s frustration that of a tween, someone who is just about to hit puberty, very different physical and emotional stage than that of a 5 yr old. At 11, she is clearly too old to be treated like a doll, and it makes it that much harder for her to accept that she was just a few years away from having a passable adult body ;A;

Claudia really is an adult in a small body, just like any Little Person is. In Queen of the Damned, she has a diary entry, 9/21/1836, she’s at least 30 yrs old:

“This is my birthday present from Louis… I do not understand entirely what is meant by birthday. Was I born into this world on the list of September or was it on that day that I departed all things human to become this?”

Anyway, Little People do have active sex lives, otherwise why would we still have them around? Some even have relationships with non-Little People.

Specifically with Claudia, the issue remains that she looks like a child, so only another mortal child or an adult pedophile would even attempt to be sexual with her, both of which EW GROSS. I headcanon that Claudia enjoyed luring and killing pedophiles. She’s also capable of experiencing all the sensuality that comes with *~blood sharing~*, and her voracious appetite was partly because it was her only means of sexual gratification.

I think Claudia IS curious about sexuality, I think she’s passionate in many ways and wants a deeper connection (actual LOVE) w/ another soul, and alot of her frustration about her body is that she is denied that sexual intimacy. Sexual intimacy alone does not guarantee love and/or a deeper connection with another person, but don’t we all search for someone to understand us, someone we can share our innermost feels with? Or more than just one? In that sense the coven structure was really good for the Children of Darkness.

Claudia really had noone that she trusted that much. She only showed Louis her pain in glimpses and that was nearly too much for him. I think that Claudia felt that her body was the only obstacle in the pursuit of finding a kindred spirit, someone to truly love her more than as a daughter, but it was also her mind.

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY

THANK YOU DEAR! 

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like when does that even come up in conversation or discussion

WE NEED TO SEE LOUIS CAUTIOUSLY BITING SOMEONE

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Adult!Claudia/Louis: To ship or not to ship? Well, we know who wears the pants in that shared coffin.

for merciful-deathannabellioncourt, and the-oziad.

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“And why should the people listen to YOU?” – Robin Hood: Men in Tights

for duendology!

annabellioncourt replied to your post “I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think…”

Poor Louis. He has no idea that he’s gorgeous and everyone wants to be on him. Innocent Louis. Protect him.

pssssst we know, Louis, and that makes u even more attractive.

vampiredevelopment:

George: You know, I wine ’em and dine ’em, but I don’t let ’em tell me what to do.
(To dolls.) I don’t let ’em tell me what to do. 

Episode 2×13 “Motherboy XXX”

the-oziad replied to your post “I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think…”

But, we can’t cut Louis’ evil out of the conversation. His own cocktail of potent feelings for his…daughter, sister, friend, almost-lover? Whatever she was. Whatever she continues to be.

Louis’s evil is that he kills indiscriminately, which Akasha points out makes him “the most predatory of all the immortals here. You kill without regard for age or sex or will to live.” 

But yeah, back to the NOTP of Louis/Claudia, I thought it was very well-handled in the movie. Which I consider almost canon bc AR did write the screenplay and was consulted on it alot. My notes in ().

Louis: “Listen to me. Claudia is very dear to me. (pause, feeling like he needs to actually specify the relationship?) She’s my daughter.”

Armand: “Your lover.” (and he mouths this word again silently bc he’s TEH JEALOUS)

Louis: “Well my beloved. My CHILD.” (He’s being very clear here, NOT LOVER)

Armand: “You say so, you are innocent.” (Armand knows that she didn’t come out of Louis’s wrist)

Louis: “She’s in danger, isn’t she?” (Tactically changing the subject so as not to bring up Lestat). 

Truthfully she was his sister. But so is Gabrielle. Gabrielle is sort of his sister, Grandmother, and Mother-in-Law all rolled into one. WHAT A MESS. 

I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis, she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts. Sure, he loves her and cares for her, but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.

while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis,

YEP NO HESITATION THERE bc let’s be honest we all want to ravish Louis ok.

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she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts. 

Indeed.

Sure, he loves her and cares for her,

Exhibit A:

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but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.

She’s worse than Lestat about playing w/ her food, that’s for sure, and choosing to kill innocents specifically is NOT a turn-on for Louis. 

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