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I don’t remember Armand’s birthday ever being mentioned in the books. Did Anne Rice ever mention it, or did you choose it? If so, was there a reason you chose November 11?

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moral-cipher:

vagabonddaniel:

enfant-du-malheur:

armandromanus-deactivated201601:

[I read the books when I was 15/16, meaning that it’s been almost 4 years. I’m rereading Vampire Armand again for rping purposes and past the middle it hasn’t been mentioned yet. However, this is the date I got from more than one wiki page and since I didn’t have a specific date in mind I decided to stick with it. Anne Rice might have mentioned it in an interview, perhaps? I’m afraid I won’t be able to assure you that.

//The really weird thing is that I have Armand’s birthday as November 11th too, and I HAVE NO IDEA WHY. I guess it was from the same online page you looked at, but I really can’t remember what it was or when it was… or anything.

//I wonder if comes from the official calendar? Which was released god only remembers when but it listed a lot of their birthdays (I don’t think Daniel was included). A lot people were like “UGH NO DISAGREE” but it exists somewhere, so maybe this is where people are getting that date? 

//there’s a calendar?! Also wow I’ve headcanoned that he was born in November for like ages but only because I thought he should be Scorpio >>. Nov 11th headcanon accepted. 😀

I like that it’s a few days after Lestat’s. Just ONE MORE WAY Lestat steals the spotlight from Armand… just by existing.

✍(handwriting, as Armand): But there came an end to my long centuries of Satan’s service. Clad in red velvet it came, the very covering my old Master had so loved, the dream king, Marius. It came swaggering and camping through the lighted streets of Paris as though God had made it.

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Did AR ever give a reason as to why they were no longer interested in making a VC film? I assume she didn’t like the direction the studio/director wanted to take the film.

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Nope! Not that I’ve been made aware of. AR didn’t give us a reason why Universal was no longer involved. She just announced to us 11/26/16 that she had the rights back [X] and was developing a VC TV series. So I would assume that Universal rights expired, and they didn’t choose to renew. AR might have raised the renewal cost, too.

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I hope we do get the backstory on that someday, but my guess is we never will. Probably the same kind of development hell that happened w/ movie!IWTV from ‘94, the rights were jostled around for almost 20 yrs bc, from what I understand:

  • the material was/is very difficult to adapt with all the problematic and taboo stuff in it.*
  • the filmmakers wanted to please the VC fans, but they also wanted to make something that people who had not read the books would want to go see! That’s probably one of the reasons for Banderas!Armand, btw. I’m sure the filmmakers had to choose between satisfying the VC fans and reducing the taboo stuff enough to make it more palatable for non-VC fans (Louis, an adult vampire, being seduced by a teenage-looking vampire, might have been too much to ask for in 1994 it might still be too taboo now). 
  • casting was tough,several first choice actors declined.

*@moral-cipher and I were talking about this, and the way ppl criticize canon, and that’s fine, I encourage it! But it is a very problematic series and just about every character is dysfunctional, every character has suffered or has caused suffering in others. The new motto for VC fandom might as well be:

~VC: If you’re looking for a perfect cinnamon roll, you’ve come to the wrong fandom.~

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//tbh if armand had been born in the 20th century instead of the 15th he’d probably be talamasca

^These tags tho!: #ooc, #way too much creepy psychic shit going on, #i mean shall we make a list, #out of body experience, #near death vision, #religious visions, #channeling god/trancelike state, #crazy telepathy skills, #projection of visions, #seeing ppl’s auras, #seeing and talking to ghosts, #(like srsly no other vampires besides david can do that???), #spellbinding/dazzling/confusing/calming ppl, #aka the mindwhammy,

Yeah, Armand seemed to exhibit quite a lot of abilities (these are a mix of pre- and post-turning), so maybe the vampiring just enhanced what he already had. 

Working at the Talamasca could have been perfect for him.

Doesn’t he go by Armand le Russe in Prince Lestat?

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Following through the comments on my post, there is the idea that “le Russe” is an epithet, that it’s not what Armand goes by, but something Rhoshamandes calls him. It’s only mentioned once in the book, IIRC, by Rhosh. I’d believe that.

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^Kitty by @berrym [X] 

@bloodyvampchrons wrote:

Anne APPARENTLY made up “le Russe” in PL. Which I had totally forgotten until I was reminded a little while ago. As far as obviously made up surnames go it’s even worse than de Romanus lol. ETA: I need to do a closeread before I speak lol, it sounds like that’s an epithet rather than a name.

@monstersinthecosmos wrote:

SO LIKE I MEAN, the only part (to my recollection? plz correct me???) where it mentions “Armand Le Russe” is in a Rhosh chapter and that guy is such a salty fuckin tool and I got the impression that he was calling Armand that to be petty and sarcastic? Cause then she started listing the vampires at the end of the books and she still just refers to him as “Armand” without a last name.

“Only the clever ones like Gregory Duff Collingsworth and Armand Le Russe–who could thrive right in the midst of mortals–were undisturbed by the shrinking of the planet.”

@bloodyvampchrons wrote:

YEP that’s what @laurasking pointed out to me too. That’s totally plausible. Also since Rhosh’s experience with Armand relates to coven era BS in Paris (idk if I’m even remembering this correctly but isn’t he pissed that allessandra ++ were forced into the covens) it might possibly be a thing left over from that era as well??

laurasking said: Well, Rhoshamandes calls him that, but no one else.

moral-cipher said: Laurasking – ohhh i forgot that. So it’s probably an epithet, possibly left over from the Bad Old Days. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

laurasking said: I thought fanon was that he assumed de Romanus.

@i-want-my-iwtv: ^Re: de Romanus, I assumed that was the name Armand used when he was with Marius, but after he was taken by the Children of Darkness, they changed his first name and I would assume he never used “de Romanus” again, either ;A;

Thanks to everyone who had discussion on this! 

//Oohoho. Just finished Ch 8. THE PLOT THICKENS! But seriously tho I’m enjoying this so much, so many wonderful details. You guys are doing a gr8 job. I always thought this was one of the very few fandoms where you COULDN’T make a coffee shop AU work, but… it’s working!! (Loving the angst too. Even in a coffee shop AU, these idiot boys manage to fuck everything up, lmao.)

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Thank u thank u! 

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@wicked-felina and I are trying to include as many canon-compliant details as we can (hello Armand flirting w/ the blender, lol), and I personally have to satisfy my RL best friend who is a coffee aficionado (gotta prove to her that we know wtf we’re writing about, lol)… We’re using most of the ideas we come up with but we do have some spin-off chapters that may come later when the fic is finished.

…Psssst we would also love fanart of any of it, if anyone is so inspired…

I didn’t think a coffee shop AU was possible for VC either, but yes, from all the lovely comments we’ve been getting on it, it is working ^______^ 

(Loving the angst too. Even in a coffee shop AU, these idiot boys manage to fuck everything up, lmao.)

^This is why it’s working, bc we’re absolutely devoted to keeping them as IC as possible. Some canon-diversion has been necessary, and being AU, it’s naturally got a more comical bent, but yeah… we’re trying to keep them IC ;D

We love this pile of dysfunctional vampires hipsters.