Louis & Lestat (2/2) by @chyrsoprases

I commissioned this for @sanguinivora! This is the second version, with the cool vintage photo effect. I love their expressions, and the overall composition, and Louis has canon!hair, which I know at least 2 ppl will appreciate, and anyway, here’s a typical evening in the Rue Royale, with Louis reading smtg to Lestat bc adorbz.

@chyrsoprases is a great artist to work with, highly recommend!

Louis & Lestat (½) by @chyrsoprases

I commissioned this for @sanguinivora! I love their expressions, and the overall composition, and Louis has canon!hair, which I know at least 2 ppl will appreciate, and anyway, here’s a typical evening in the Rue Royale, with Louis reading smtg to Lestat bc adorbz. 

@chyrsoprases is a great artist to work with, highly recommend!

2/2 i know thats a really dumb question but i really want to read the rest of the books and i cant really figure out how. anyways, i love you blog (and your hair oh my gosh). have a swell day!!! xo

theraphaellus:

Hi Anon,

That’s not a dumb questions at all! I know there’s generally a lot of confusion regarding the right way to read the books. As far as I know, AR said to read them in the order of their publication, but I also know there are some sites online that suggest alternative ways to read them (perhaps @i-want-my-iwtv might offer suggestions here? I’m sure you can find some more info on the blog, which is obviously totally amazing and a great resource for all things VC!)

This is the publication chronology: 

I read the first three in chronological order, and then I read the rest completely jumbled up. Some of them I’ve only read once, others I’ve ready MANY TIMES… and I’m still working my way through Atlantis atm. The last time I began re-reading I followed the chronology. I’d definitely be willing to try and read them following one of the alternative chronologies, maybe that would offer a different experience? I don’t know.

Hey VC boffins, please feel free to add to this if you have suggestions! 

Hope that was at least a little helpful anon ❤ 

I have been summoned! Thanks for the lovely compliments on my blargh, I’m such a successful drug dealer, always trying to reel in fresh victims to our beloved drug of choice, lovable dysfunctional vampires ♥u♥

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I didn’t know that AR said to read them in the order of their publication, but that makes the most sense to me, bc that was the order in which she explored the stories. I read them in publication order, too (but that wasn’t really a choice for me bc after the first 4 of them, I had to wait for her to write them!) Things will be revealed to you in the order in which she considered them, and then things will be “corrected” in the order in which she “corrected” it (you know, the different points of view, our ~unreliable narrators~, which is AR retconning existing canon).

I don’t know of other chronological suggestions, but I know ppl do come into the series from anywhere and latch onto certain characters bc of their gateway drug, so it kind of depends on what you’re most interested in with it. Like, someone who started with TVA might want to read The Vampire Lestat or Queen of the Damned next bc there’s some Armand screentime in those, and go back to Interview w/ the Vampire after that bc he has less screentime in it, IIRC.

I think it also depends on whether you have an issue with problematic things bc some VC books are more problematic than others… we could tell you whether you might want to skip Tale of the Body Thief, for example 😉

(I get this question in different variations every so often, it’s under my #Order of Operations for VC tag, if you want more thoughts on that.)

BASICALLY: Give them each and all a chance! Assemble your headcanon as you go along ;3

I just realized that in TVL Marius calls Armand ‘Armand’ during the Venice flashback and the discontinuity hit me like a brick in the face

(It’s this line, right?) “Rise, Armand, we must leave here. They have come!”

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[^I don’t have a pic of Armand from the scene you mentioned, so have Claudia in a library w/ a bunch of studious older dudes who are probably concerned about what an 11 yo is studying for all these hours so late at night]

Armand’s Venice flashback was in Mind-Gift-Vision™ (or whatever you want to call it!), blasting out of Armand at Lestat and Gabrielle like water from a fire hydrant, and Lestat later transcribed it all for us about 200 yrs later. The Mind Gift is not exactly like reading a book; it seems to be more about sharing images, snippets of sound and feeling. Why did Lestat use Armand’s name in that quote and not “Amadeo”? Some ideas:

  • Lestat wrote it 200 years after experiencing it, and yes, vampiric memory is supposed to be perfect, but he also went through a few assassination attempts, so it’s possible that a few brain cells were lost along the way.
  • If Lestat ‘heard’ an “Amadeo,” in the vision, maybe he thought he must have misheard bc he knew Armand as “Armand,” and transcribed the name he knew. 
  • Maybe Armand concealed the name Marius gave him, maybe it was too painful for him to share that information with someone who had just wrecking ball’d his coven like Miley Cyrus in a red velvet tank top & undies.
  • Maybe Armand had been successfully brainwashed to the point of sealing off that name off from his memory after all those years with the Children of Darkness, to remember it after Lestat left Paris at that time.
  • Or it was our usual *~unreliable narrator~* situation, assign the blame to Armand or Lestat 😉
  • … Or, LASTLY, and most likely, it was AR who hadn’t come up with the “Amadeo” part yet. *sighs*

I can understand why discrepancies and discontinuities can be jarring, and people do bash the authors of novels for delivering what the readers see as some kind of inferior product :- 

IMO, I don’t think an author, artist, or musician is obligated to serve to you a complete and perfect story/picture/song, w/ complete and perfect facts. AR has never said that was her intention. Even the Bible has discrepancies. 

Instead of being jarred out of the story, why not make our own headcanons? You can call them “excuses” if you want 😉 Like I just did above. It’s reasonable to assume Armand didn’t want to share that name. It’s reasonable to assume Armand didn’t remember it in that moment, or that Lestat failed to catch that detail, or thought it was incorrect.

Fanworks can criticize but they can also repair what’s confusing, can fill in the interstices of canon (check out this types of fanfic diagram!). You can engage with the material to criticize it, or you can engage with it to repair it, so many ways to engage with canon and, specifically, its discrepancies.

People doing this with fanfic, fanart, and meta-analysis have made the VC so rich! Shared ideas have cured many things that were jarring for me. The missing musician vampire bothered me for so many years, and then, before PL was even a twinkle in AR’s eye, I had at least one strong answer for his disappearance and it gave me a new appreciation for him, for Lestat, for his part in the fabric of the story. 

Your headcanon is up to you. You can enhance canon with it. You have that power. Ask other people for their ideas, they can help, too. 

Now I’m not saying every discrepancy can be explained, but it is somewhat more manageable in the earlier books. I would love to see people do it with the later books! With the larger things… that are harder to explain. 

Hit the jump for more, cut for length.


Some of my favorite art misleads or leaves things out. Here’s, basically, fanart of Jackie O by Al Hirschfeld:

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^She has the slightly cartoonish distortion all around, there are strong gesture lines, there are detailed areas (the necklace, the hair, etc.), there’s her face w/

distorted features, and then there are missing lines. The back of her left arm, most of her right arm, but you as the viewer can fill those in yourself. They’re not drawn but they’re there. 

It’s not a photograph, it’s an artist’s interpretation of his subject, how she occupies space, maybe how she moves through it, her inner spirit.

Idk, not everyone likes Hirschfeld. I’m sure some people do not consider it to be Art. We all have our own experiences and our own ideas of what Art and Beauty and Good Writing are. Fanworks are a form of engagement with Art. 

Same anon here! Okay, thanks for the answer! Guess I’ll read them patiently in order then ;–)

De rien!

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On a little further reflection, you can skip: *possible spoilers under the cut*


Pandora – Is mostly about Pandora, and Marius, and their relationship. Pandora’s not really in PL much and their relationship doesn’t have much to do with how Marius is in PL.

Vittorio – This is technically not a VC book, and he has a different origin story and is not part of the VC vampire group.

Blackwood Farm – This is mostly a story told to Lestat and he’s not very invested in it, I don’t think many (any?) of the new characters introduced in this book make any more than a mention or brief appearance in PL. It is also fairly cracky.

Blood Canticle – AR said that PL deviates from canon in that it does not include the hybrid VC/Mayfair Witches stuff, but I think she meant this book specifically, which has Rowan Mayfair, who does not appear at all in PL. It is also very cracky.

Where is that pic you posted for the vampire body hair ask from?

[Anon refers to this post] I don’t remember! I don’t remember where I get some of my stuff. Sometimes ppl randomly send it to me w/o a source, and sometimes it’s stuff that was hosted on a website that’s since been taken down. I’ve been collecting it for 20 yrs and didn’t really think about sourcing back when it was only for my own personal collection.

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It’s not like I have a password to a super secret online archive and I’m only leaking out little bits to you! Well, I do still have my own personal collection, but I post the things that are worth sharing.

Hopefully we’ll get this kind of stuff for sale or handed to us w/ the new adaptation(s), since that’s a more common thing to do these days!

Most often, I’ll be digging around the interwebs looking for a better quality version of a production still and land on a dead forum, in another language, with a bunch of pics posted, and I’ll go into a user’s account there and find another gallery of their collection… I get lost down the wormhole for a few hours that way, and sometimes find nothing new, sometimes I find smtg I haven’t seen before.

That’s one of the majorly frustrating things about this fandom, a huge difference for us vs. more recent fandoms, is that the more recent fandoms often get a lot of great behind-the-scenes vids, info and pics. The ppl behind movie!IWTV didn’t give us much in terms of behind-the-scenes extras on the VHS, DVD, or BR releases, and we didn’t get a gorgeous illustrated book like the Crimson Peak fandom got 😦

I think the combination of intense secrecy they needed before & during filming (so as not to spoil anyone), plus after the movie came out, the fact that it had so many societal taboos in it…. it pushed the envelope for its time and everyone was quick to make fun of it. Maybe the producers doubted that anyone would want behind-the-scenes materials.  

I don’t remember it being as common for all movies at that time, anyway, to share behind-the-scenes stuff. Getting a big behind-the-scenes treatment was more for movies like Titanic or Star Wars.

communistdracula:

sometimes i think about the fact daniel probs has many excerpts from louis of armand sharing his sexual prowess and he was like ‘this is good playboy material’ one night in 1979 and armand was like ‘oh yes there was much playing involved’

Here’s an IWTV short story written by AR in Playboy

“….But the book as published represents only a portion of the tapes of that interview made by the reporter. Louis told the young man much that was not included, particularly with regard to the master vampire, Armand, whom he had met in Paris. One tale was Armand’s account of his methods of seduction; that is, the art of the vampire at its peak in the year 1876.”

!!OMG VC FANFIC BY AR!! 

[Amy] Nicholson astutely connects Eyes Wide Shut back to Interview with the Vampire through their intentionally strained eroticism, which serves to acknowledge the films’ respective true theme of the capitalist power that lingers under the superficial sexual roleplay. This, in turn, underlines the great irony of Cruise’s career: that his weirdest and most original performances, particularly in these two films, are often panned because they entail subtly blunt trickery that involves the deliberate assumption of cold, alienating theatrical tactics that point inward toward their own inherent falseness. These are Cruise’s most daring and revealing turns, rather than the obligatorily “relevant” performances that often win him praise.