Okay but like how do vampires suck dick?
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Did you know that the Romans used lead in their food? Also in cups, bowls, and for various other things. Not only was it highly poisonous but it caused hallucinations and (tehe) sexual arousal. Perhaps Marius could go into more detail?
While I appreciate your historical attention to detail, I’m afraid this doesn’t really apply to me, my dear.
What a strange question to ask our dear Lestat. My great city existed well before even his ancestors were conceived, and thus I doubt he would be a very knowledgeable fount on this subject.
The people of Rome knew that lead must be dangerous, as we were not blind to the ailments that seemed to follow those who worked in casting lead. They breathed in the caustic fumes and were left pallid and sickly, and from this we gathered that lead must be rather unwholesome.
Although lead was widely accepted as a dangerous metal, many still believed it to be necessary in some aspects. It was used to line aqueducts and fashioned into pipes–nevermind that clay pipes were entirely more sought after, even by those such as myself who were rich enough to afford otherwise. Medicines and cosmetics as well were made of great quantities of lead, despite the wide belief that it should not be ingested directly if at all possible. Some greats such as Pliny and Columella argued that in leaden vessels was the only way to prepare Defrutum, a sweet syrup used to make products such as wine more desirable.
Many attest that a rise in lead poisoning stemming from the Roman’s love for wine was perhaps a cause of the empire’s decline, though there is little evidence to support this. It is true that lead poisoning would have greatly impacted the sperm count of adult males, or the ability to carry a child in females, and even would have been fatal to the children themselves–as wine was the predominant drink for all citizens, regardless of age–but this means very little when you realize the people of Rome had no interest in rearing children, or even marriage. In fact, it came to a point where the people were so focused on a childless state, that Agustus himself attempted to intervene, much to no avail.
As for the sexual arousal, I can only speak from personal experience. My sex drive was what I assume to be average for a man my age. I sought a wife early on, I sought to make love, and I sought to be loved. I never happened upon any urges that were out of the ordinary, or struggled with a drive for physical contact more mighty than I could handle–though, some of those who read Armand’s poor account of Venice may greatly disagree. Of course, by then my need for mortal sexual intercourse had long been dead, and I base my words solely on the desire for something greater: the sharing of immortal blood.
*mic drop*
Have you ever considered Louis asexual as a mortal?
Louis doesn’t kiss and tell.
…That doesn’t mean that he doesn’t kiss at all ;}
In canon, Louis did explain to Claudia that sex was, for him, the “pale shadow of killing,” and some other negative things about the experience, but it was probably meant more to try to make her feel better about missing out on it. She would never be able to experience it herself :-
In movie!IWTV, Louis seems to spend his mortal nights getting drunk and hiring cheap prostitutes like have you seen the higher quality ones Lestat hires?! so I would say he’s probably sexing them, I wouldn’t think he’s hiring them for their conversational skills…
I can’t find the same info in book!IWTV, about the prostitutes, but he was getting drunk and passing out in cabarets.
I’m sorry if I sound uninformed or ignorant, but I am confused about some of the characters sexualities. I understand that once they become vampires that sort of thing doesn’t matter, but as humans I wonder…Lestat was stated to be bisexual, was he really? He seemed to have a preference for men and I cant recall there being a relationship significant or genuine enough to really say he was truly attracted to women. What was Louis’ sexuality as a human, I’ve only seen him interested in men too?
It’s fine to ask! It depends on how much (and which) canon and fanfic you have read, and how much you’ve read between the lines.
#Let’s talk about sex
I’d say they both defied definitions, but the short answer would be, mortal!Lestat loves who he loves regardless of their physical container, and mortal!Louis struggled with bisexual/homosexual desires.
Spoilers ahead:
Mortal!Lestat:
I don’t want to try to assign a label like “bisexual” or “pansexual” bc there’s so many labels for orientation now and the definitions are confusing no matter how many definitions I read or how many times ppl try to explain the thing to me 😛
I’d say mortal!Lestat is romantically drawn to someone for their soul first and their physical accessories second. He’s had relationships with men and women, been physically attracted to both.
- He had a relationship with Nicolas, for sure. They kissed, they slept together, it was all heavily implied. I doubt vampirebaby!Lestat would have been stalking mortal!Nicolas if they had only been Super Best Friends 5ever.
- Lestat didn’t talk about long-term female relationships as a mortal, but that he bedded the village girls (I can’t find a reference but I’m pretty sure he mentions it).
- And he bedded one of the actresses in the troupe he tried to run away from home with: “That night, the actress who played my inamorata gave me her own very special and intimate accolades. I went to sleep in her arms…”
- He might have had a side fling with the female actresses in the Paris theatre, Renaud’s: “Send flowers for Jeannette and Luchina, the girls I had fought with the most and most loved,”
- In ToBT, mortal!Lestat beds a woman (non-con), and has a short but intense relationship with another woman, and returns to her to prove he was telling the truth about himself. She kicks his sorry butt out the door.
- Also in ToBT, Lestat wages a campaign of seduction on David Talbot, who does not give in, despite a valiant effort on Lestat’s part!
- in later canon, Lestat is powerfully drawn to Dr. Rowan Mayfair and promises he’ll give her the Dark Gift.
Mortal!Louis
He really doesn’t talk much about his pre-vampiring life. Claudia asks him about sex and he tells her:
“It was something hurried, and … it was seldom savored … something acute that was quickly lost. I think that it was the pale shadow of killing.”
Maybe he didn’t want to hurt her feelings, since he knew she could never experience it herself. Maybe he really felt that way.
Personally, I headcanon that Louis might have had a little experience in being with men as a mortal, but Lestat’s the one who really pushed him over the edge. Alot of vampirebaby!Louis’ issues with Lestat could have partly been bc Louis was brought up in a religious frame of mind that meant homosexuality was sinful, so whenever he felt physical and emotional desire for Lestat, he hit himself with a wave of self-hatred 😛
Ricean vampire asexuality
inesbc2001 asked:
Hi, so I’m dying to know what the VC Tumblr fandom thinks about vampire sexuality.
IMO the fact that vampires don’t have sex doesn’t necessarily make them asexual.
I’m thinking about Marius with Amadeo in Blood and Gold, and Louis with the mortal boy in Paris.
There is a passage in IWTV that goes roughly like this: “He pressed his whole body against my legs and I felt the firm strength of his sex under his clothes. A moan escaped from my lips…”
– I translated this myself from the Spanish version, but you get the idea 😉
I’d be thrilled to further discuss vampire sexuality.
That’s all, keep up the good work! 🙂
#Your headcanon may vary.
So I’ve discussed this topic at length in my tags for it: #asexuality, #asexual, #sex, #sexuality, #lets talk about sex.
It all depends on your idea of what sex is, but Anne Rice has been definitive about it:
The scene that you mention between Louis and the mortal boy: Louis is still capable of finding that boy’s hard on to be arousing, but he’s getting alot of sensory input in that moment, and Armand is probably manipulating him psychologically, too.
Marius/Amadeo: Amadeo is mortal and experiencing things differently than Marius is.
I’ll open this to discussion, what are your opinions/headcanon on Ricean vampire sexuality?
Anne does often try to change her cannon, but that follows the books. No one mentioned sex until the third book, when Lestat said that male vampires couldn’t…ahem, work that part of their anatomy. Louis mentioned in the first one that the blood exchange of vampires, and the killing of mortals was more intimate than intercourse anyway.
Thank you for clearing that up! I remember Louis mentioning the intimacy thing but I totally forgot about Lestat. I just have a vivid memory of Armand and Daniel in bed and I guess my mind tried to fill in the blanks.
Honestly, It’s been so long since I’ve read them that I’m starting to wonder what I actually read and what my friends and I headcanon’ed.
#Your headcanon my vary
ooc; For anyone that wondered, this was a thing on her Facebook today. Both the vampires not having sex and the Daniel & Marius bit.
//Awww. That’s sweet. (Not sarcastic. It is.) I definitely got the impression they cared very much for each other in PL. I still don’t read it as a romantic relationship. I don’t know it, it just doesn’t feel that way to me in the text. But I can see it being a very loving and intimate relationship. If it gets passionate, though, I see there being problems, given that Marius is so controlling and Daniel does not like being controlled. Will be interesting to see how this goes in Blood Paradise.
I do hope Armand and Daniel reconnect in some meaningful way (which doesn’t have to be at the expense of Dan’s relationship with Marius, whatever that is – I contend they’re not very monogamous creatures anyhow). But really, I just want to see them TALK, goddamn it. Nod at each other. SOMETHING.
#want #I want this bc of reasons
ooc; For anyone that wondered, this was a thing on her Facebook today. Both the vampires not having sex and the Daniel & Marius bit.
Thus, fanfiction.
#Your headcanon may vary
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