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Hello! I’m a little new, may I ask why the Prince Lestat series isn’t canon? I haven’t read up to it yet

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So I don’t know how new you are, and what you’ve seen and/or read, but unlike many other fandoms: We do not all accept all of the books (and the 2 movies) in our series as CANON. 

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[^Louis doesn’t really approve of the series as a whole.]

All of us are into VC for our own reasons, and there are some ppl who are into it specifically for certain characters, time periods, cosplay ideas, etc. Ppl whose interests are similar tend to find eachother and make closer friendships within the larger fandom. Anything that you do not accept as canon can be considered AU or written off as being told by an unreliable narrator, bc all of our characters are unreliable narrators! They all know someone in the coven will read their account of things and they may *~embellish~* the truth if they want to do so ;] Scenes are often retread from different characters’ POVs. You can choose which version you want to trust. Maybe there are elements of both that you find acceptable. 

Even AR doesn’t accept all of the books as canon: she said that

Prince Lestat does not follow the VC/Mayfair hybrid books (Blood Canticle was intended to be the last VC). She wrote PL almost as a stand alone book and lots of ppl seem to be coming into the fandom from that book without reading IWTV which is fine, and more power to them! You don’t need to read the books that lead up to it but you’ll get a deeper appreciation of some of the main characters if you at least read the first 3 books in the series before you read PL. 

Hit the jump for more, cut for length.

Re: differing headcanons: We still have disagreements about what Louis’ hair really looks like, bc some ppl were influenced by movie!IWTV, the official graphic novels, and the fanart which interprets it in different ways. We still disagree over whether Lestat was 20 or 21 when he was turned, and AR herself doesn’t always answer these canon questions explicitly herself (maybe bc she left it ambiguous on purpose, or she forgot, or whatever other reasons). 

Re: PL: There are parts of PL I can accept, just not the whole thing. There are alot of new characters introduced who I personally did not find as engaging as the old set, and the old set did not always behave in ways that seemed true to their own previously established characterizations throughout the book. Other ppl have different opinions. We have RPers who chose the new characters to RP, so they probably accept these new characters as canon.

I probably won’t accept Prince Lestat and the Realms of Atlantis as anything more than AU either, bc it follows PL.

Reasons why fandom won’t accept PLROA as canon:

The main reason would be that AR herself has told us to disregard the Mayfair crossover books. In terms of her own headcanon, she didn’t want to tie these in with the events that follow in PL. So her own books diverge from her own timeline. 

A secondary reason would be the earlier books in the series are generally accepted as the stronger stories with the characters best written. 

What is Louis favorite opera?

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[^Appropriate gif bc he’s all decked out for the opera]

I know like 3% about opera/musicals/plays so @annabellioncourt helped me out w/ this one. She says (btw this was a chat so italics are my comments and I edited it into this format, and she can correct me however needed):

  • FAUST – As a vampire he prefers Faust, which is about a man who sold his soul to a devil for youth and fame, and I think its self explanatory as to why he’s drawn to it.

    So for Louis, the themes of darkness and the dark side of religion and the supernatural, the cost of damnation, those themes in Faust would stick out to him, even if the story itself is not one he approves of. The audience is not supposed to like the character of Faust.

  • Don Giovanni is just an amazing show, and was incredibly popular during the 19th century. As a mortal, Louis had a soft spot for Giovanni (but never admitted to liking anything other than French opera). It’s about a man who’s a womanizing creep, but at the end he’s dragged to hell by demons and the ghost of the father of a woman he wronged. In opera, the themes and music are always more important than the story.

  • Phantom of the Opera: (technically a musical but still) Louis would definitely enjoy POTO. 
  • Les Mis: Lestat tolerates Les Mis bc even though its not THE French Revolution, its anti-aristocracy themes bother him.

    Lestat loves some of the characters in Les Mis tho, like Enjolras (who he says looks like him). Louis enjoys it; he finds it patriotic.

  • Elisabeth, the German musical:

    Its a rock musical and Louis would love this. The “Der Tod,” his character is basically Lestat. It’s about the Austrian empress and her life, as well as a love triangle with herself, her husband, and Death himself. Der Tod is German for Death. And he’s a main character.

Louis would probably enjoy any of the “traditional” musicals, but the more rock based ones would be more up Lestat’s alley.

About the poised/boner (the same anon btw) book referances Priapos actually therefore im just going to imagine Louis screaming and running away from Lestat lol. I didnt read the book in English, the line in mine translates “standing erect” in English

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(Re: the ongoing debate about the “Priapus at a gate” quote. But let’s not go there, plz don’t send me messages about it, I’ve stated my opinion so many times ffs!) 

Louis spent a lot of time screaming and running away from Lestat, that’s just canon. But he always usually came back on his own ❤

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[I didnt read the book in English, the line in mine translates “standing erect” in English]

^Oh wow, this may actually be the source of many ppl’s headcanon on this! We can’t expect you to disagree w/ a translator but for them to define it that way would certainly influence your headcanon…

BUT I just CANNOT ACCEPT THE IDEA that they are all walking around w/ permanent boners, as Louis would say: “I can’t. Or more truly, I will not.”

I just feel like it would have gotten alot more canon support if that were really the case. It’s referred to as being like the rest of their flesh, which is usually just compared to marble.

Let’s respect #your headcanon may vary on this topic.

This isn’t so much of a question as it is a compliment. Thank you for being so sweet and accepting, and hilariously Lestat-like with others questions! I have been a fan of the books for so many years but was always so intimidated by its fan base, enjoying from the shadows, as it were. I hope I do not erroneously think it safe to come out of my hiding place (sort of…) with this comment!

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Omg what a thing to say to me thank u so much! *flails* YOU ARE SO WELCOME AS ALWAYS. You’re still on anon, so you’re not risking anything, but feel free to step into the light. What have you got to lose?

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[X digging up an oldie from the archive, mon dieu using Impact was still in fashion! But the sentiment is still true.] 

It’s especially flattering that you say I answer things in a hilariously Lestat-like way bc his positive attributes were an inspiration to me when, as a small fanged little trash kitten, I needed that so much. I feel more like myself when I’m interacting w/ ppl with some of his brand of optimism and charisma, which was not so much that I absorbed his, it was more that I recognized it was always there inside me, latent and sleeping, and needed to be reignited ;D

Plus, we all had to hide our love for this fandom in the dark ages before the internet really brought us together, and then some of us also suffered the war on fanfic. Unlike many other current fandoms, ours was crushed and couldn’t blossom until more recent years. I’m so grateful that we have these spaces now and that fandom is recognized as a more legitimate thing these days, we have more than shadowed spaces now! It’s very Lestat in TVL, drawing the Children of Darkness out into the modern world to enjoy the things that are out here to be enjoyed.

“Just remember: life – without me- would be even more unbearable” will always be one of my fave quotes bc there were times when it was very true, and currently, VC is still a positive presence for me, and it’s heartwarming to know it’s that way for others, like you, too! *hugs*

That is what I want as my legacy, just remember that I was crazy and I made you happy, and/or inspired you in at least some small way, bc that’s what VC has done for me. 

Cut for sappiness…

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^AU where I am Mrs. Lincoln and the rest of the fandom here is Mr. Lincoln ❤ bc that is what I want as my legacy, just remember that I was crazy and I made you happy.

I feel kind of married to this fandom and I treat it that way, like a significant other. We’re our own individual ppl but I like to think we compliment eachother; we all have our own talents to contribute, even if being an audience member for the fanworks is all some of us do. 

Sometimes we fight, and there are times we disagree with canon, but we get through things regardless bc there’s a shared loyalty there and that’s a beautiful and precious thing. It’s fragile, too, and needs our commitment to survive.

jfc I look away from the fandom for two minutes – I usually make a habit of checking this blog every other day or so to soak in the VC love, but I was away all week without internet, and I come back to VAMPIRE MERMAIDS. The world has clearly gone insane and Anne Rice appears to have been pretending a little too intensely that EVERYTHING is wine (but God help me I’m actually super excited to see her take on Atlantis XP). I wonder if Lestat is revelling in our manic excitement/panic/craziness?

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^@sheepskeleton has spoiled us w/ two vampire mermaids so far, and I put them in the same pic pretty badly but oh well… [X][X] They look like sirens on the hunt for sailors to feeeeeed on….

Ordinarily YES this is the place for VC fandom love! Much of the mermaid (merpire? vampmaid? *sigh*) excitement has died down by now, but yeah, until we get PLROA we won’t know definitively if there will be mermaids but we can still have fun w/ it as an AU *u*

Our manic excitement/panic/craziness thrills Lestat “Bad attention is better than No attention” de Lioncourt.

I may feel bad for saying this, but I really, kind of don’t want there to be more movies. I know TVC is underappreciated but I really like that it’s a book fandom, book only (apart from 2 movies but w/e) and I just don’t want movies to cheapen it or represent the books in a bad light or for it to get overly popular- or the worst scenario- for it to be associated with the vampires of today *shivers*

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I know what you mean, Louis would probably agree w/ you for similar (or the same!) reasons why he wants Lestat to stop writing any more books or authorizing his ghostwriter to do so.

[I just don’t want movies to cheapen it or represent the books in a bad light…]

^So I think Josh Boone is going to handle the material very respectfully, looking at the way he tagged up the Stand for that adaptation, he clearly is treating that book like it’s the Bible for that project *u* We’ll see how the Stand fandom (what do they call themselves? now I’m curious) reacts when that adaptation comes out, as my Dad says, “The proof is in the pudding.”

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[…or for it to get overly popular-]

^It might get overly popular! We might have overly fanatic fans! But we can handle that, we already deal with having the Facebook factions of the VC fandom, some of which are pretty zealous in their loyalty to AR, and from what they ask her (like ”Is Lestat really bisexual/gay???”) I wonder how they read the same books as we did. Just bc there’s more interest in it doesn’t mean you have to participate w/ the influx. 

We also had an influx when Prince Lestat came out, and they seem to be absorbing into our ranks alright.

[…or the worst scenario- for it to be associated with the vampires of today *shivers*] 

^Comparisons will be made to other vampire media, reviewers will review, haters gonna hate. You can tune all that out. Boone knows it will be held to the standard of movie!IWTV, and the standard of all his fave vampire media, so I’m sure he won’t invest the time and effort into smtg he knows can’t handle that level of scrutiny.

In general, I think @phoenifia/@firelight-fading put it really well in their post here, which I will quote some lines from, (I bolded a few things for emphasis):

I think everyone needs to keep in mind that everyone doesn’t share a collective mind- everyone read these books individually so everyone is going to have a different opinion on how certain plot events happened and how certain characters look. Boone is one of those people and he’s the one in control of how this film will look and develop…

#Your headcanon may vary 😉

On that note, just because a new film is coming out doesn’t mean that the values of past productions, like the IWTV movie with Tom Cruise, decrease. You can still enjoy it. You can still view Tom Cruise as the “perfect” Lestat. You can still choose to ignore the new film. What the new film does mean for the fandom is possible growth. Old loves for the books series will be rekindled and people will hopefully return. New fans will emerge who enjoy the film or are curious about the books. Considering Rice has lessened her hold on fanfiction restriction, that means more fanworks will possibly be generated. Lots of good things on the way even if the film is a flop.

So all in all, stay positive, go see the film to support Rice and the series if anything and if you don’t like it then it’s a done deal and you can fall back on other VC-related works. We’ll get through this irregardless.

^We’ll get through this irregardless *hugs*