vampiredevelopment:

George: You know, I wine ’em and dine ’em, but I don’t let ’em tell me what to do.
(To dolls.) I don’t let ’em tell me what to do. 

Episode 2×13 “Motherboy XXX”

the-oziad replied to your post “I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think…”

But, we can’t cut Louis’ evil out of the conversation. His own cocktail of potent feelings for his…daughter, sister, friend, almost-lover? Whatever she was. Whatever she continues to be.

Louis’s evil is that he kills indiscriminately, which Akasha points out makes him “the most predatory of all the immortals here. You kill without regard for age or sex or will to live.” 

But yeah, back to the NOTP of Louis/Claudia, I thought it was very well-handled in the movie. Which I consider almost canon bc AR did write the screenplay and was consulted on it alot. My notes in ().

Louis: “Listen to me. Claudia is very dear to me. (pause, feeling like he needs to actually specify the relationship?) She’s my daughter.”

Armand: “Your lover.” (and he mouths this word again silently bc he’s TEH JEALOUS)

Louis: “Well my beloved. My CHILD.” (He’s being very clear here, NOT LOVER)

Armand: “You say so, you are innocent.” (Armand knows that she didn’t come out of Louis’s wrist)

Louis: “She’s in danger, isn’t she?” (Tactically changing the subject so as not to bring up Lestat). 

Truthfully she was his sister. But so is Gabrielle. Gabrielle is sort of his sister, Grandmother, and Mother-in-Law all rolled into one. WHAT A MESS. 

I’ve thought a lot on the Claudia/Louis thing, and while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis, she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts. Sure, he loves her and cares for her, but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.

while I don’t think an aged up Claudia would give a second thought to ravishing Louis,

YEP NO HESITATION THERE bc let’s be honest we all want to ravish Louis ok.

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she’s a symbol for everything that horrifies him about himself, and I don’t think that that would exactly be grounds for amorous thoughts. 

Indeed.

Sure, he loves her and cares for her,

Exhibit A:

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but I think if she was an adult, it’d be a lot easier for him to see just how far mentally out there she is, how evil, how unable to understand human goodness she had grown to be.

She’s worse than Lestat about playing w/ her food, that’s for sure, and choosing to kill innocents specifically is NOT a turn-on for Louis. 

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kuzco2000:

“this is awkward” yeah NOW it is since you just said that

Well, know that I’d been following your VC blog before I decided to return to tumblr this year. And apart from all these wonderful things you do for this Fandom (Us, People off the Page), what I so much love about this blog is your absolutely fantastic sense of humour with which you approach the VC!!! Happy Birthday, You Creature of Wonder!

!ohmahfrickittyfrackettyharpsichords, I’m so touched, you hit me Right in the Feels in such a very good way! *attack hugs* 

It continues to be mutually beneficial, as I have had to learn how to do new things in order to do them for THIS BLOG, like making gifs, and it’s also made me question my own ideas about the characters, and get to know all these people I never would have interacted with if not for our fandom, and so much more <3<3<3 Dare I say that it’s a huge part of my life? That’s probably obvious ^_______^

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WAYYYYY back when I started this thing, I was afraid that I was offending our fandom with my sense of humor, as can be seen in one of my early memeythings:

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Yeah, it is applicable to her situation gdi Claudia stop eating all your handlers or so help me but it was also my concern whether anyone thought I was being just offensive and not funny at all… clearly the People Off the Page (I love that you used my word for us, too, btw) convinced me that they really enjoy my brand of silly and now I go alot farther, still with the intention of keeping it tasteful (PUN INTENDED):

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(Sometimes when I get an idea for one of these things I actually make myself laugh just thinking about it until I can get home to make it)

Do you think that if Claudia was turned at an older age like 18 or something that Louis would of slept with her?

BRACE YOURSELF FOR A WALL OF TEXT©®

(I assume you mean more than just unconscious sleep, which yes, he did sleep with her, that’s canon)

 Y’know that’s smtg I’ve thought about, too. Was it only her body/age that was the obstacle there? She seemed to think so… or so it seems from what Louis shares with us re: just a few times when she even opened the subject with him. 

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[VC Louis mon Amour by Segomichoco, via talamascaaa]

Particularly that time in Europe when they had just killed the Icky Gross Mindless Vampire, and they’re totally exhausted and hungry, and she offers him her wrist:

“ `Drink,’ she whispered, drawing nearer. `Drink.’ And she held the
soft, tender flesh of the wrist towards me. ‘No, I know what to do;
haven’t I done it in the past?’ I said to her.”
<—- REJECTED. I don’t think Claudia shared blood w/ either Lestat or Louis, at least not in any intimate way, ever, which had to have been part of her not-growing-up frustration. 

SO BACK TO THE QUESTION AT HAND: 

No, I don’t think Louis would have slept with Claudia if she had been turned at 18+ bc there were more obstacles than just her physical form. 

  • For one thing, Louis was in a relationship already with Lestat, even though it was a problematic one. 
  • The chemistry between people (even IRL) has to work in that way for there to be any sexual attraction.
  • He always cared for her like a daughter. She was very much his own security blanket, a buffer and a glue between him and Lestat. 
  • She was less human than either of them, which did not seem to be something that made her more attractive, but less comprehensible to him: ” `I love you now with my human nature, if ever had it,’ I said to her.
    “ `Ah yes …’ she answered, still musing. `Yes, and that’s your flaw,
    and why your face was miserable when I said as humans say, ” I hate
    you, “ and why you look at me as you do now. Human nature. I have
    no human nature.’ ”
  • Also, in terms of canon vampire physiology, the Ricean vampires seem to be asexual, blood gives them all the satisfaction they need/want in that regard. It’s in fanon and RP that they’re sexual.

As a side note, claudiaindarkness might have some good opinions on this, bc she often RPs Claudia aged up. thevampire-claudia also had a thread in which Claudia was aged up and *ahem* had some private time with a Louis (merciful-death) if u need some tasteful au smut ;]