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Did Louis actually visit Lestat in IWTV when Lestat went back to New Orleans to rot in his house? Because Lestat didn’t mention that Louis had visited him in “The vampire lestat”. Lestat only said that Armand visited him and that he knew that Louis was in New Orleans. Thanks for clearing up :)

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Ooooh good question! In IWTV, Louis says that he did visit Lestat (and it was in the movie). 

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We actually don’t know if it happened :-

  1. book!IWTV has Louis following a young vampire to Lestat’s door.
  2. In the Tale of the Body Thief, Lestat says it never happened.

We have discrepancy in canon. Your headcanon may be that it happened, and someone else’s may be that it didn’t. With Louis’ book, was he telling his tale to try to call out Lestat? Maybe he knew that inventing a scene like this might provoke Lestat to respond. If so, it worked, Lestat wrote TVL as a response to IWTV. Also, Louis told his story to Daniel, who then had to send it to his editor(s), so maybe it was invented by someone other than Louis for whatever reason. 

So who do I believe? Umm, I don’t think Louis is a liar, and I don’t think anyone invented it. Lestat has said, “I never lie, at least not to those I don’t love.” which means that he DOES lie to those he loves. 

I’m going w/ Louis on this and saying that it happened as Louis described it.

1. Book!IWTV:

“Because shortly after that I saw a vampire in New Orleans, a sleek white-faced young man walking alone on the broad sidewalks of St. Charles Avenue…” (this mystery vampire kills a woman and takes her baby to a shabby old house where he meets up with another vampire) “My eyes widened as I studied this stooped and shivering vampire whose rich blond hair hung down in loose waves covering his face… I saw clearly, unmistakably, the profile of Lestat, that smooth skin now devoid of even the faintest trace of his old scars.” 

BTW, it’s implied that that young vampire was one of Lestat’s own fledglings (another mystery fledgling?!):

“ `You all leave me!’ he whined now in a thin, high-pitched voice.“

(Louis taps at the window)

…” `It’s Louis! Louis!’ he said. `Let him in’ And he gestured frantically, like an invalid, for the young `nurse’ to obey. … and I could see the tears welling in his eyes…How baffling and awful it was, this smoothfaced, shimmering immortal man bent and rattled and whining like a crone.”

2. HOWEVER…

In Tale of the Body Thief, Lestat calls Louis a liar, and I think he’s referring to the whole visit scene:

“Ah, that makes you out to be a perfect liar,” I said furiously. “You described my weeping in your miserable memoir in a scene which we both know did not take place!”

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duendology:

i-want-my-iwtv  and  duendology  having a conversation…and then this “golden observation moment” comes

Three universal truths about RP

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duendology:

1. Headcanon is like an opinion is like an arse, everyone’s got their own.

2. Headcanon is in fact an interpretation, nothing more nothing less.

3. Don’t preach your headcanon as some universal truth.

4. All the three above apply to readers as well, not only rpers, of course.

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Please don’t get upset if/when someone disagrees w/ your interpretation, just remember it’s about fictional characters, and not a personal attack. Even if the facts are from canon itself, some ppl may choose not to recognize some canon facts. 

#your headcanon may vary #ship and let ship

So IF the vampires from the VC could have sex with humans and other vampires what would their sexual styles be or what would their sexual history be. Vampires like Lestat, Louis, Armand, and Marius.

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Sexual styles and history vary so much depending on the ship, whether they’re mortal or immortal, the age of the character, and so many different factors… 

What your really asking is about relationship dynamics, the balance of power, the level of dependency on eachother, the amount of trust, how often they’re even in the mood, etc. All those things fluctuate over time.

Lestat wanted to answer this in a snarky way but I’ll try anyway:

Lestat

  • Style w/ mortals: He’s always enjoyed taking the Little Drink while snuggling after sex, or during. This is how he can get away with having innocent blood now and then, as a treat. He tends to top.
  • Style w/ Louis: In the past, he would have to get Louis so worked up with foreplay that he’s completely begging for the D, or blood, or both. Currently, Lestat loves it when Louis takes control and bosses him around. 
  • History: There’s fanon out there that suggests he was sexually abused as a child, well into his teens. I think that would help explain his difficulty in learning how to love properly, as he comes across as overly sexually demanding (like literally throwing himself on Louis), at least in movie!IWTV. 

Louis: 

  • Style w/ mortals: Louis doesn’t have sex with mortals (except one OC that I won’t mention YET AGAIN) bc he doesn’t get that close to mortals. But he does get crushes on them occasionally, like Babette Freneire.
  • Style w/ Lestat: See above. In the past, Louis was conflicted in his feelings for Lestat, his first (or second) male lover, and would prefer Lestat to be the aggressor, and then punish himself later for enjoying it. Currently, Louis especially enjoys calling/sexting Lestat during business meetings and getting him painfully turned on.
  • History: There’s fanon out there that suggests Louis had one male lover before Lestat, but for the most part, his sexual history was just getting drunk and sleeping with prostitutes. He had issues equating sex with love, it took him a long time to learn it, and is now very comfortable with expressing his feelings sexually. 

Armand: (I really should leave this to the Armand and Daniel RPers)(BUT I CANNOT LEAVE A QUESTION UNANSWERED IT IS A PERSONAL FLAW)

  • Style w/ mortals: Armand doesn’t have sex with mortals unless he’s sharing them with Daniel. Armand wouldn’t kill these, he makes sure they get home safely.
  • Style w/ vampires: I would imagine that Armand was a generous lover with Louis, almost always the one to initiate. Currently he can be a bossy bottom, and likes it when his lovers initiate. 
  • History: he was in brothels as a mortal, and it took him some time to learn to trust others. Marius was his first loving relationship, and Armand was rebellious then, seemingly unable to accept gentleness, because of his past.

Marius: 

(I really should leave this to the Armand and Marius RPers)(BUT I CANNOT LEAVE A QUESTION UNANSWERED IT IS A PERSONAL FLAW)

  • Style w/ mortals: Marius has occasionally slept with the models he paints. He is always in control of anything that happens.

  • Style w/ vampires: Marius has occasionally slept with the models he paints. He is always in control of anything that happens. 

  • History: We don’t have much canon support for Marius’ sexual history, but he did have a long term ship with Pandora in which he was unable to get it up on their wedding night but y’know, performance issues, it’s not uncommon. One out of five…

Is it true that everyone in the fandom has, at some point, had a massive crush on lestat?

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I think it’s true that everyone in the fandom has, at some point, had a massive crush on Louis.

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Psssst we know that, Louis.

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I do think Louis was a gateway drug for alot of fandom ppl. It’s his story at first. I read the books in order and I’d recommend doing it that way, even tho it’s not necessary. TVL really is a response to IWTV, and part of the charm of that book is Lestat’s joy at breaking open the floodgate to release all the forbidden answers to all the burning questions Louis had in IWTV. I loved Lestat more knowing that alot of his bastardness in IWTV was frustration that he was sworn to secrecy, and couldn’t risk putting Louis, Claudia, and himself in danger by telling them any of it at that time. 

I think this varies from person to person in the fandom, and some ppl despise Lestat, and have from whatever book they started in. Like the movie itself, he’s not for everyone and doesn’t have to be. 

My gateway drug was Claudia, and then Louis, and then Lestat. How crazy that the antagonist of IWTV ends up being, very quickly in this series, the lead and clearly the protagonist? As the series shows, he’s not wholly an antagonist to Louis. It wasn’t so black and white, as it is in real life, there were misunderstandings and gray areas.

Yes, well, PL readers?

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duendology:

cloudsinvenice:

duendology:

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*coughs*

Damn, I don’t know if I could even…..

….know where to begin?

Curious why she wants to know. I mean, I can guess why…but hmm really?

Interesting; I actually have mixed feelings about her asking and about how far she should…

^Interesting little thread re: what People of the Page have responded to AR’s question. 

IDK what I would want. Fanworks kinda satisfy me in ways canon hasn’t, especially in getting more of characters I wanted to hear about and exploring existing canon ships. I take every new VC book as AU fanfic and can pick and choose things from it to assimilate into my headcanon. 

Yes, well, PL readers?

I’m confused by Lestat’s relationships with the other characters. I’ve been reading the books for a while now, but I’m still a little confused. Could you try and explain his relationships with Louis, Marius, Armand, Daniel, and David. What is Armand’s relationship like with Marius these days? Where are Daniel and David (presently speaking)? Who are they with? What are they like? I’m so overwhelmed with all of the books. Can you help?

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I can’t explain all those relationships! Even the characters involved couldn’t explain them. They’re a big ol pile of dysfunctional hipster vampires and their ships are a hot mess. 

BUT I SHALL TRY. Nobody attack this please, I’m grossly over-simplifying for the sake of this one Anon’s overwhelmtion ;] #your headcanon may vary, #ship and let ship.

At their most basic:

  • Lestat/Louis – Murder husbands, OTP, 5ever
  • Lestat & Marius – not a pairing, but there’s definitely a mutual respect and caring in a paternal sorta way.
  • Lestat & Armand – not a pairing, but there’s definitely a mutual respect and caring in a fraternal sorta way MURDER BROS.
  • Lestat & Daniel – they’ve not had a lot of canon interaction but I’d bet Lestat is forever grateful that Daniel basically started the VC which eventually brought him back together with Louis. There’s fic and RP (see daniel-james-molloy)​ out there that would support a Lestat/Daniel BROTP, possibly an actual ship, I likes it.
  • Lestat/David – Post-TOBT David has had little canon interaction with Lestat in a loving fledgling/maker way. There have been one or two scenes of extreme feistiness between them, which were hot and problematic, but they seem to have reached a kind of amnesty and even care for eachother.
  • Armand & Marius – have a kind of amnesty between them. Marius has done some pretty insane things for Armand, with good intentions, but still.
  • Daniel is with Marius these days.
  • David is sort of a loner but he does visit with Louis, Lestat, and Jesse on occasion. They seem to be his closest friends.

I would say that the relationships change throughout the series, and that some ppl simply do not include certain books in their headcanon, which changes relationship dynamics, too. Including “present day” ship dynamics. For example, if you don’t include Prince Lestat in your VC headcanon, then Marius and Daniel have a different sort of (probably specifically and clearly) platonic relationship than they do if you DO include Prince Lestat.

For more specifics, check out VC Wiki, but there’s gonna be spoilers. Fair warning.

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forev 21 but you look like you could go into a liquor store without having to show that id. im 22 and i look like im 14 imagine the stares. yes. you are a fuckton old. add the fuck a lot and it turns into fuckton. is the science of fuckery.

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♛“Too bad that you’re trapped in the body of a child. I know ALL TOO WELL how frustrating that can be.”

“Okay now that I understand what a fuckton is, definitely a better word than a ‘shitload’ which I have also heard and really that’s not that much when you think about it as a real quantity, but yes, I am a fuckton old, and a fuckton wiser than I started out in this life.”

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I actually just discussed the vampire asexuality question here.

TL;DR, my feeling is that Ricean vampires are asexual in canon, but fully sexual in fanon (fanfic, fanart, etc.). #Your headcanon may vary #Judge not, that ye be not judged.

… and then again, that all depends on your definition of sex ;]

I read somewhere in the chronicles that vampires can actually have sex? Just wondering if this is true?

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[fanart by Garama]

Actually, in canon, they’re asexual. More on that here. BUT #your headcanon may vary, I’d be super impressed if anyone can show me a quote from canon that they can do it. (NOT Vittorio, bc he’s not included in any other VC, I think he’s a different species of vampire?).