I remember you saying something about how the vampires in the VC are asexal. What does that mean? Can they still have sex as vampires? Can they have sex with vampires and humans. This is something I’m curios about.

So this is a good question and I could spend entirely too long answering it but people don’t want to read a huge Wall of Text™©®. I’ll try to be concise.

The sharingz of BLOOD is all a Ricean vampire needs in terms of sexual interaction. This can be a fully clothed or naked

activity, or anywhere in between, and ppl sometimes forget that there is a major artery in the inner thigh called the Femoral Artery which makes for a very sexy place to bite…

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BASICALLY your 2 main canon quotes re: asexuality are:

1. Lestat has this to say about his package:


“I studied my reflection … and the organ, the organ we don’t
need, poised as if ready for what it would never again know how to do
or want to do,
marble, a Priapus at a gate”
– Queen of the Damned

2. Pandora wants Marius to sex her up on their ‘wedding night’ and he can’t do it, but they try, awkwardly:

He covered me and kissed my cheek. “Drink from me,” he said, “drink until the pain goes away. It’s only the body dying, drink Pandora, you are immortal.“ 
 "Fill me, take me,” I said. I reached down between his legs.
“It doesn’t matter now.”
But it was hard, this organ I sought, the organ forever lost to the god Osiris. I guided it, hard and cold as it was, into my body. Then I drank and drank, and when I felt his teeth again on my neck, when he began to draw from me the new mixture that filled my veins, it was sweet suckling, and I knew him and loved him and knew all his secrets in one flash which meant nothing. 

He was right. The lower organs meant nothing.

He fed on me. I fed on him. This was our marriage.
 –
Pandora

Also, there’s little mention in canon of vampire sex other than bloodsharing, so it’s assumed they don’t need it, bc they don’t procreate that way. New vampires are made by sharing blood. 

In canon, human/vampire sex it basically non-penetrative, but that all depends on your definition of sex. Is fingering sex? vampires!Marius and Amadeo do that with mortal!Bianca, for example, and she seems very satisfied!


Keep in mind that #Your headcanon may vary, and this is why we have fanfic. Lots of ficwriters write them as fully sexual beings who can do it with vampires or humans. 

There are some fics that suggest that human/vampire sex can be harmful to the human, since vampires are stronger in alot of different ways, and some fics suggest human/vampire sex is impossible (like Lois Lane/Superman, how does that even work does he destroy her? It is a mystery).

My thoughts on Armand, Claudia and sexuality

gingerhairedimmortal:

I’ve been trying to find a way to put these thoughts into words (words that will not bring my favourite hate anon back with a vengeance) since i-want-my-iwtv mentioned this earlier today.  However, I suppose I will take the chance because fuck it, I’m going on hiatus tomorrow anyway.

tl;dr – I think if Armand was convinced that this was something Claudia truly wanted (and let’s be honest, with his Mind Gift, it wouldn’t be hard for him to determine) then he would have no problems going forward with this relationship.  He sees Claudia mostly as the woman she is inside her mind and less as the child she is in body only.  While the relationship presents some challenges, I think it is possible and have no problems roleplaying it as such.

For the record:

This was very well-put, thank you for sharing!

[More of gingerhairedimmortal​‘s post under the cut.]

It is true that my Armand is pursuing a romantic, and hence possible sexual relationship, with a Claudia.  She has been aged up in that thread to avoid the usual legal and moral implications that would be involved with a five year old appearing body involved with a seventeen year old appearing one.  However, with the way the characters are, I would not have shied away from a relationship with a canon Claudia for them either (only used fade to black because while Armand may not have issues with it, I sort of squick at writing that).

However, the big issue for me is that while Claudia may LOOK like a child, she isn’t.  Armand, a character who is the most cerebral of the coven.  He knows what is going on in everyone’s mind and will occasionally alter it to his own liking.  Because of this, my headcanon is that outward appearance means little to him.  He sees people the way they see themselves.  So when he looks at Claudia, he sees the adult woman she truly is and not the body she is trapped in.

That does not mean to say that he is completely oblivious to the implications of a relationship with her.  It would not be possible for the two of them to be romantic in public, risking mortals making a scene.  Even the coven (particularly Louis I would think) would raise a fuss at the two of them together. These would be of concern but in the end would not sway them necessarily.

Most of all, for Armand, who was kidnapped to be used for sexual pleasure at a young age, he would be most concerned with making sure this was what SHE wanted.  Armand is portrayed over and over as selfish but I believe that he has a soft spot for victims of human trafficking and sex crimes.  It is one of the reasons I disregard anything past him meeting the sun in his canon because the whole story line with Benji and Sybelle is so far from my understanding of the character that I can’t believe it to be the same Armand.  

But I digress.

#Your Headcanon May Vary

I got an Anon message today about an issue (the message started with an ellipsis “… ”) , and I’m not going to take a side, nor publish it(gonna practice nonviolent civil disobedience

like Gandhi), bc it wouldn’t solve anything between the differing opinions but I have a need to respond to every message in a timely manner so this is how I have to do it

This blog is about inclusiveness, and a big part of that is tolerance of different people’s opinions. Even if they are widely considered BATSHIT CRAY CRAY opinions. It’s not my job to tell people what to think. I run this blog for fun. If I really believe my concept of something is 100% infallible, I can only share my idea and the reasoning behind it, and hope I can win over the opposing side. Beyond that, it’s not worth getting aggravated over. 2 of my fave fandom mantras are:

#Your headcanon may vary, #Ship and let ship.

It’s a great thing that there are informed people who want to correct the record here in tumblrland, and I have learned SO MUCH re: the wide spectrum of issues that we have in this world, my opinions have definitely been altered. Once you’ve said/writ your peace and the other side is still not budging, you may still be right, but try not to let it stress you out. 

One thing about tumblr, and Life in general, is that there are a lot of uninformed ppl and ~hyperbole~ (veering towards the negative or the positive), is part of the language here since all we have is the written word, and sometimes meant to be a little sarcastic. Meant to even be humorous. “But I didn’t think it was funny! It was majorly offensive!” you say. Well, maybe you didn’t find it funny. Maybe 9/10 people didn’t. But, maybe it was funny for 1 person. At least that person who posted it. Plus, exaggerated opinions are more likely to be Liked/Reblogged, which encourages it. 

This is a great little article about trying to find the humor in reality: Laughing Through Life: Humor in Autobiographical Writing, by Tim Jackson.

“The world around us is often a frightening place. We can read a newspaper or watch the news on TV and be overwhelmed with morbid information. We need a laugh now and then. Humor really does tend to save us when things simply aren’t going our way. Laughter is good for our health; good for our soul.”

I saw that someone asked about Louis and Claudia’s “relationship” and that made me think of a scene in the book where Claudia basically asks Louis how it feels to have sex/make love. What do you think about that? I thought Claudia was kind of curious because she looks like a child bit really isn’t but at the same time she can’t experience anything an adult can do like have sex. What are your thought?

Yes we were just talking about that, I have a new tag for that kinda topic: To ship or not to ship. This is a huge topic but I will try to be concise.

Apparently in a alternate draft version of IWTV, Claudia finds a few young boy vampires in Paris and ends up leaving Louis for them. Would that have been better? Would she have had a sexual relationship with them, bc they alone shared her problem and could overcome it? I like to think so ❤

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So in the actual book, with that scene… She gets Louis to share that sex “‘…was something hurried…And… it was seldom savored… something acute that was quickly lost. I think that it was the pale shadow of killing.’” It’s not clear whether he tells her that bc:

  1. it’s physically accurate (bc Ricean vampires cannot has penetrative sex with their equipment, therefore they’re all asexual)(that’s canon), 
  2. he’s saying it so as not to hurt her feelings and make her feel like she’s really missing out, or
  3. he actually feels that way? Is killing so much better? Or did he really not enjoy mortal sex that much? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS.

…of course in fanon, they do all have sexytimes, constant degenerate frackin, and Claudia knows damn well What They Do in the Shadows, and why they sign her up for all this tutoring, and she’s jealous as HELL but I digress…

Then, she says: (I’m paraphrasing) “Hurting you like I’m doing now, that is also a pale shadow of killing?”Louis admits that YES it is, and he pretty much bolts out the door at that point…which I think is especially powerful bc it implies he has admitted to her that she is fucking him with her words alone. And he does not like it. As much as he wants to please her, it is a clear rejection of her in that regard, yet again unu

gingerhairedimmortal, claudiaindarkness, might have opinions on this, too.

Hit the jump for unpopular opinions about Claudia, but basically, I think she could have experienced all the intimacy that the adult Ricean vampires experience, because they are asexual in canon, and instead share blood as their *~HIGHER~* form of intimacy. Unfortunately for her, Claudia never really had a relationship with anyone that wanted to do that with her ;A;

It’s worth mentioning that they auditioned about 100 little girls for the role in IWTV, and no 5-7 yr old could handle the part. With Kirsten Dunst (auditioned first), who I think was 11 at the time, it made Claudia’s frustration that of a tween, someone who is just about to hit puberty, very different physical and emotional stage than that of a 5 yr old. At 11, she is clearly too old to be treated like a doll, and it makes it that much harder for her to accept that she was just a few years away from having a passable adult body ;A;

Claudia really is an adult in a small body, just like any Little Person is. In Queen of the Damned, she has a diary entry, 9/21/1836, she’s at least 30 yrs old:

“This is my birthday present from Louis… I do not understand entirely what is meant by birthday. Was I born into this world on the list of September or was it on that day that I departed all things human to become this?”

Anyway, Little People do have active sex lives, otherwise why would we still have them around? Some even have relationships with non-Little People.

Specifically with Claudia, the issue remains that she looks like a child, so only another mortal child or an adult pedophile would even attempt to be sexual with her, both of which EW GROSS. I headcanon that Claudia enjoyed luring and killing pedophiles. She’s also capable of experiencing all the sensuality that comes with *~blood sharing~*, and her voracious appetite was partly because it was her only means of sexual gratification.

I think Claudia IS curious about sexuality, I think she’s passionate in many ways and wants a deeper connection (actual LOVE) w/ another soul, and alot of her frustration about her body is that she is denied that sexual intimacy. Sexual intimacy alone does not guarantee love and/or a deeper connection with another person, but don’t we all search for someone to understand us, someone we can share our innermost feels with? Or more than just one? In that sense the coven structure was really good for the Children of Darkness.

Claudia really had noone that she trusted that much. She only showed Louis her pain in glimpses and that was nearly too much for him. I think that Claudia felt that her body was the only obstacle in the pursuit of finding a kindred spirit, someone to truly love her more than as a daughter, but it was also her mind.

straight people reviews:

merciful-death:

gentlemandeathinsilk:

I see.

Platonic friends w/ benefits *wink wink* *nudge nudge* 

Sweeping your platonic friend off his feet when you first meet him:

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Clutching your platonic friend tightly against you as he gives you a hickey with attitude:

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Whispering sweet nothings into your platonic friend’s ear in the cemetery before feeding him your special sauce:

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Adopting a child to keep your platonic friend from leaving you and living together as a family for 60+ yrs? Yeah this is all very platonic.

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I understand that you have read the new Anne Rice book Prince Lestat. Has Louis changed at all or is he the same sad vampire? What do you think of Louis?

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I mean this in the kindest way… LOUIS IS A BAD ASS MOTHERFUCKER OK so people need to let go of this singular-mopey-tortured-soul-Louis thing!

Your headcanon may vary of course, but this is my interpretation…

I still haven’t finished Prince Lestat but I know some of the spoilers. I won’t share them here except to say that I understand Louis gets a good chapter to himself. He’s in Prince Lestat and he does make the impression of someone who is comfortable in his own skin and generous in his interactions with others, so far as I’ve read.

Aside from that, Louis shook off his mortal coil as early as in IWTV. When still but a fledgling, he stood up to Lestat during the Freneire incident, “And so I physically grappled with Lestat. I held him… I held him in the dark, where he spit at me and cursed at me…” Lestat sounds like an angry cat. That must have been fun. NOT.

He helped Claudia escape from Lestat. He burned down the Theatre des Vampires in revenge for Claudia. Etc.

In my favorite fanfic and RP threads, Louis is a BAMF. He doesn’t let anyone step on his toes, and he enjoys time to himself, but he’s not merely a hermit the sum of his library. He’s protective and nurturing of Lestat (and others) in physical AND emotional ways, which are reciprocated in kind. 

Louis is at odds with everything. He always has been. Even in his darkest, saddest moments, there was the little flame of his ego and will to survive. It’s one of his most endearing qualities. 

I think it’s this ego and indomitable nature that draw Lestat – and others – back to him again and again. Also, Louis is very pretty ❤

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wombatkittenkisser, it’s subjective. As LIFE ITSELF is subjective! There are high points that reach towards the very sun and low points that go right down to repeated bloody-lego-stepping-self-mutilation. “Goodness” lies in how you react to it.

I started reading the Vampire Chronicles and I’m at The Queen of the Damned but I’m wondering if I should stop there? Or should I read on? I don’t to want get caught up with the ‘crackyness’ later on, you know?

i-want-my-iwtv:

You started with The Queen of the Damned, or with Interview with the Vampire? Definitely read the first 3 books in the series, those are are good. 

The “crackyness” that we make fun of it for sort of happens at book 4, Tale of the Body Thief, which is still a great story (especially compared to the later books)…

I think you should read it all. Especially if there are certain characters you’re beginning to feel more of an attachment to. If you love Armand, for example, you should read The Vampire Armand. If you love Marius, reading Blood & Gold would be of interest to you. 

I think any VC fan should read them all, read lots of fanfic, and decide on their own what they consider to be “the real story.” Your headcanon may vary from mine, but that doesn’t make you a lesser/greater fan. You can ignore the crackyness.

Loving the characters makes you a fan *u* 

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lokitapendragon#vampire chronicles #ALL OF THIS #because I adore these books but good grief #you either pick and choose or go crazy

^This. 

You know that Anne Rice’s vampires don’t have sex? They are basicly asexuals because they don’t feel lust for sex, only for blood.

I have read the series. I’m aware. For some reason, and it’s probably unintentional on your part, Anon, but it seeeeems like you have some kind of issue with this?

They still do feel sexual lust, it’s channeled through the experience of taking/sharing blood.

Alot of fanfic writers and VC RPers just ignore the canon asexuality and let the Ricean vampires have sex however they want. Some have very creative headcanons about it. I for one enjoy reading it. 

In terms of VC CANON, however:

  • They’re asexual in that they aren’t described as having penetrative sex.
  • Unless your headcanon is that they do and they can, in which case Anne Rice decided to just leave it out for whatever reason. Some people think this is the case. *shrugs*
  • However… physiologically it would make sense that the Ricean vampires do not procreate in this manner because they procreate via the Dark Gift. At that time, the mortal body *dies*, transformed and frozen from further change/development. Male vampires would be shooting blanks (if they shoot anything at all) because they can’t make new sperm; female vampires wouldn’t be producing eggs, and wouldn’t have the organs to be able to grow a baby. 

I think that reproductive obstacle is why Anne Rice made the choice that they could BE sexual, but not in a reproductive way. 

Anon, the definition of sex is different for everyone who does it. The Ricean vampires can do tons of other very sensual/sexual things. Who says that a penis in a vagina (or anywhere else) is the only legitimate definition of sex? Sex cannot be totally defined by the dictionary definition, when it’s such a widely interpreted issue.