To my knowledge, we don’t really have a name, like the Potterheads for HP or the Hiddlestoners for Tom Hiddleston 😦
We’re just “VC fans.” If I’m differentiating between different vampire media, I’ll say “Ricean vampires” or “VC vampires.”
It’s an old fandom, so old that I’m pretty sure it predates fandom being the recognized thing it is today. We were also strongly discouraged from creating fanfic, so maybe that’s why we don’t have a name. VC fanfic was underground, the fandom was in hiding, we didn’t want to draw unwanted attention by having a name. The Talamasca slogan might as well be our fandom’s slogan, too: We watch and we are always here.
Sometimes I refer to us as “People Off the Page,” to differentiate us from the VC Facebook fans who Anne Rice calls her “People of the Page.” More on that here. They used to be a formidable army she could sic on other fans/reviewers/etc., but things have been peaceful for awhile now, thankfully.
I used to refer to us tumblr fans as “fanged little trash kittens” or “fanged little trash monsters” more frequently than I do now. Probably had to do with the fandom trend at one point of saying “I’m such X-trash!/I’m trash for X!” meaning that you loved X thing/character. Seemed only natural that we would be fanged trash creatures. And it’s gender-neutral.
Any variation on the words Vampire and Chronicles doesn’t wholly work for us, since there are so many other Vampire series and Chronicles series.
//I’d like to suggest “Children of Darkness“
I second “Children of Darkness”. So dignified.
Yes, we have been called that, or called ourselves that, in the past! I’m sorry I forgot! Here, I made us a super classy badge:
(Font is “Dr Sugiyama” from http://www.1001fonts.com.)
Bon soir to you, thank you (I need this week to be amazing bc it’s my first 5-day week at work in awhile, bc of the holidays and the snow day last week, omg it’s gonna be rough, lol), I’m very well! Hope you are, too, and that 2018 is treating you well, so far. I’m stretching my creative muscles again, making promises to ppl about fanworks I have in the pipeline that are ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. Yissss. 2018 is going to be a more productive year ^_______^
(No worries re: the spam of questions, I’m going to treat them as one mushed-together question, hope that’s ok with you!)
Louis having a living lineage and
being a patron to it is entirely possible! Do I personally headcanon that he does, definitively? That’s hard to say… I could go either way on it. I can parallel-headcanon, and have it both ways 😉 It depends on the fanfic/fanart/etc. I’m consuming, whether I headcanon yes/no on that.
A) On the one hand, I think he’d be charmed by seeing his own mannerisms (or that of his immediate family!) in his descendants, as can happen. ❤
I know I’ve seen at least one fic that had Louis discover a great-great-great….(idk how many?)…grand-niece in NOLA, and even being just a child, she resembled Louis physically and/or psychologically, and he was deeply touched about that *u* I don’t remember whether he became a secret patron to her… I think the fic was by @gairid/ @vampchronfic, if that ficwriter sees this post, they are invited to reblog/comment the name of the fic! It was sweet without being pure fluff.
B) On the other hand, I think Louis might take some comfort in the fact that he no longer has a family to support financially or emotionally, and no family to worry about from a distance,
…which Maharet has made a career of doing with her own family bc she enjoys it. Louis is fiercely devoted to and protective of those he loves, and he chooses those loved ones very selectively. Canonically (post-IWTV), he has few ties to the other vampires in the coven, and no mortal ties other than Merrick, but she bewitched him, and admitted to doing so, so I don’t think that she really counts. If we include PL/ROA, then one could argue he has an attachment to some of the mortals in those books, including Rose.
Another thing that’s come up in canon now and then is the idea that mortal relatives/descendants can be used to try to blackmail the vampires; mortals can be taken hostage and threatened with violence unless ransom of some kind is paid for them, as happened in PL. So I think Louis would be relieved that he wasn’t unintentionally placing any innocent mortals in harm’s way simply for being related to him.
^^^ALL THAT SAID, we could always use fresh fanart/fanfic/etc., especially on this kind of rarer topic, so anyone who sees this post is invited to share their headcanons on it, too 😉
Hit the jump for just a little bit more.
Canonically, Louis tells us that his sister married, and yes, he did give her money to invest for the family:
“My sister was married in my absence, for example, while I had a `malarial chill,‘
…With dozens of miserable headaches I would receive my sister in a darkened bedroom, the covers up to my chin, bid her and her husband bear with the dim light on account of the pain in my eyes, as I entrusted to them large amounts of money to invest for us all. Fortunately her husband was an idiot; a harmless one, but an idiot, the product of four generations of marriages between first cousins.” (IWTV)
I skimmed IWTV and I didn’t see any mention of his sister having any children.
I don’t know why AR included that the husband was the result of an incestuous lineage, that may have been normal at the time? I don’t know what impact AR intended that information to have on the story. Maybe just that the husband never questioned Louis’ strange behavior re: meetings in his darkened bedroom bc he was, as Louis said, “an idiot”? Maybe this was a little reminder of Louis’s ego, that he felt he was a better man than his sister’s husband?
BTW, Louis’s sister has a fanon name, some fans have accepted it as fanon anyway, Henriette.
Personally, I do headcanon that Louis has at least a few mortal friends in NOLA and San Francisco, like a particular barista at a coffee shop he haunts in the French Quarter, and a few other locals who have done work at Rue Royale over the years. @gairid/ @vampchronfic also has an OC, Brian Callahan, who I think Louis cares very deeply about ❤
//ooc: Mun’s going to take this one bc I know there’s some debate about his name, and part of the confusion is bc
in movie!IWTV it is pronounced more like “Les-CAT” with a somewhat softened second T, and there’s canon that has him indicating that alternate, “less-DOT” wackiness.
My headcanon is that he prefers the “Les-CAT” version, in especially domestic moments, Louis will call him “ ‘Stat,” which, incidentally, is also the abbreviation for a medical emergency, which they both find humorous.
I just cut a random set of three shots w/ different characters pronouncing his name; Claudia, Louis, and Armand: I even did subtitles theses are the lengths I go to for you!
IIRC, we don’t actually see Lestat say his own name in the movie, but he presumably told Louis and Claudia how he prefers it.
Personally, I prefer the IWTV film adaptation version, it feels warmer to me than that harsh “DOT.” AR was involved with that adaptation so she could have made a point to have it pronounced however she wanted, and Neil Jordan had worked with her very closely, so I doubt he would have overrode her on that but it’s possible he decided it should be pronounced differently to how she preferred.
IIRC, the books don’t actually indicate the pronunciation until several books in, and many ppl do not consider these later books canon anyway, but here’s a quote re: his name’s pronunciation:
From Blackwood Farm (2002), when asked his name: “ ‘Lestat, Madam,’ he answered, pronouncing it “Les-dot,” with the accent on the second syllable.“
TBH I wouldn’t even consider a native French speaker a total authority on this since “Lestat” was an invented name which came from Anne’s husband’s name, Stan, with “Le” added to the front for “The,” and she has said that she intended for the name to be “Lestan” but made a typo and VOILA! we have “Lestat.” So it’s not a name that’s really based on Frenchness other than the “Le.”
ANYWAY here’s an older post with some more thoughts on his name… and one of our fandom’s native French speakers (who is also a language teacher!), @takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever, even made a video pronouncing Louis’s name (and Lestat’s!):
So it’s up to you how you want to pronounce it but I go with movie!IWTV.
Burnadette is a slight variation of Bernadette, French name meaning “Brave as a bear.” I changed it to get the fire reference ;] So Louis’ sister would have spelled it the normal way.
… I won’t deny it looks good. “Bernadette, Louis, and Paul” sound like they could be siblings 😀 BTW, that’s the Jane Austen font from DaFont.
But I wouldn’t want anyone to feel left out in the sense that I’m *special* or anything, I’m glad that some names were left out of canon, so anyone can project their own names onto those characters.
Lindsay Denise de Pointe du Lac!
Allison Catherine de Pointe du Lac!
Marie-Elizabeth Annabelle-Louise de Pointe du Lac!
etc.!
I can’t remember which fic it was but I’ve seen some fanon options for her name. I’ll reblog this post with that info if I remember them. @vampchronfic would have a suggestion.
I called her Henriette Marie (with the diminutive Minette) in a long ago mortal Louis fic. She probably has quite a lot of names since Mater didn’t give her one!
I also remember more than one writer calling her Sophie.
Ah yes, merci! I also like your choices for other chars… I think you chose Aurestile Jean Michel de Pointe du Lac for Louis’ dad… And Paulette for his mother? Or was that someone else?
And there is another ~top sekrit~ fanfic out there that assigns Lestat’s dad’s name as Valere de Lioncourt and I can’t un-headcanon that. Too perfect. It just sounds right.
Yes, Aurestile &, Paulette were from the same mortal!Louis tale 😊. Valere. I am partial to the name. *ahem*. Yet another fic had Valere as one of Lestat’s brothers.
Burnadette is a slight variation of Bernadette, French name meaning “Brave as a bear.” I changed it to get the fire reference ;] So Louis’ sister would have spelled it the normal way.
… I won’t deny it looks good. “Bernadette, Louis, and Paul” sound like they could be siblings 😀 BTW, that’s the Jane Austen font from DaFont.
But I wouldn’t want anyone to feel left out in the sense that I’m *special* or anything, I’m glad that some names were left out of canon, so anyone can project their own names onto those characters.
Lindsay Denise de Pointe du Lac!
Allison Catherine de Pointe du Lac!
Marie-Elizabeth Annabelle-Louise de Pointe du Lac!
etc.!
I can’t remember which fic it was but I’ve seen some fanon options for her name. I’ll reblog this post with that info if I remember them. @vampchronfic would have a suggestion.
I called her Henriette Marie (with the diminutive Minette) in a long ago mortal Louis fic. She probably has quite a lot of names since Mater didn’t give her one!
I also remember more than one writer calling her Sophie.
Ah yes, merci! I also like your choices for other chars… I think you chose Aurestile Jean Michel de Pointe du Lac for Louis’ dad… And Paulette for his mother? Or was that someone else?
And there is another ~top sekrit~ fanfic out there that assigns Lestat’s dad’s name as Valere de Lioncourt and I can’t un-headcanon that. Too perfect. It just sounds right.
Burnadette is a slight variation of Bernadette, French name meaning “Brave as a bear.” I changed it to get the fire reference ;] So Louis’ sister would have spelled it the normal way.
… I won’t deny it looks good. “Bernadette, Louis, and Paul” sound like they could be siblings 😀 BTW, that’s the Jane Austen font from DaFont.
But I wouldn’t want anyone to feel left out in the sense that I’m *special* or anything, I’m glad that some names were left out of canon, so anyone can project their own names onto those characters.
Lindsay Denise de Pointe du Lac!
Allison Catherine de Pointe du Lac!
Marie-Elizabeth Annabelle-Louise de Pointe du Lac!
etc.!
I can’t remember which fic it was but I’ve seen some fanon options for her name. I’ll reblog this post with that info if I remember them. @vampchronfic would have a suggestion.
[BTW: It’s “Mater Fabuloso,” a name someone suggested for me ages ago on here, and it’s bc “Mater” means “Mother” in Latin. We used to refer to AR as “Mater Gloriousa,” “Our Glorious Mother.” So it’s related to that.]
The name is also featured in this song, which is very upbeat but if you listen to the lyrics closely the singer is basically a guy who has to have ALL OF this poor lady bc apparently she’s already so much a part of him that he needs her more than just out of love, and smacks down the competition as unworthy. It’s pretty obsessive.
I liked it when I was a kid, so it has a nostalgic feel for me, and at that time, I just thought it was a guy who couldn’t help but express himself as to how madly in love he was. Obsession and madly in love, unhealthy relationships… very VC.
Imagine Lestat giving his name at Starbucks and occasionally they’ll get it right but most of the time it’s stuff like “Lester” “Leslie” “Leshan” and on one occasion he spent the night in a huff because they gave him a cup that just said “La Shat”
No, that’s not being “that” person at all! What IS being “that” person is being all overly offended at someone else’s pronunciation, so before I answer I’ll just remind y’all that these are fictional characters, there’s no right way to pronounce them, I don’t care if you have a master’s degree in Etymology and/or Linguistics, named your pet/child after them, have a friend with the same name, even if you are the creator of the series, anyone is free to pronounce these names however they want.
Amadeo- “ah-mah-DAY-oh” or “ah-MAD-eeyo,” I sorta use both.
Khayman- “Kay-men”
Mekare- “mee-CARE” or “mek-ARRAY,” personally, I prefer the first option.
Maharet- “maha-RET” (emphasis on the last syllable like “Margaret”), or “MAH-harret” (emphasis on the first syllable), or “muh-HAH-ret” (emphasis on the second syllable). Personally, I prefer the last option.
(redhairedtwin may disagree with me on the twins, she can add her two cents if she wants to do so.)
BONUS… hit the jump.
Marius- “MAH-reeyus” or “MARE-eeyus,” I tend to prefer the second option.
Lestat- Despite AR’s explicit instructions that it be pronounced “Less-DOT” with emphasis on the second syllable, I can’t do that, it sounds too clunky for me. I think it’s more like “Less-TAT,” second syllable like “cat,” or “Less-STAH,” as in “star” without the “r.“ I prefer the “cat” version. More discussion on his name here.
Well you’ve left me a convenient little loophole in your misspelling! Who is this “Luis?” I don’t know him, hopefully he’s an evildoer… bc I have to throw one of them under the bus.
Kill: Luis! Bc you misspelled his name I can pretend it’s someone else entirely bwahahahaa…. (If this were our actual beloved Louis, perfect-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world, I don’t think I could kill him, I doubt Lestat would want to fuck OR marry me after doing that. If you really insist it’s OUR LOUIS, I’ll have to revise all my answers.)
Fuck: Lestat, bc of reasons, no, really, bc he must be super talented in the bedroom (or the kitchen, or the alleyway, or the floor, wherever there’s a good solid surface really). I probably couldn’t keep up the kind of energy requirement he would need tho. He’s studied the Kama Sutra. He’d probably end up killing me… exhaustion-related death… Death by ecstasy? The French call the orgasm ‘La petite mort”; “the Little Death.” I imagine this would be like the Big Death *swoons*
Marry: Gabrielle. Honestly she seems like a good roommate (when she is around), we’d probably share similar taste in literature and such, she’s taller than me but we might be able to share some wardrobe staples. I like that it could sometimes be a long-distance marriage, she can go off exploring and I’ll hold down the fort. I’m sure the marriage would be an open one, platonic between us since I am a straight gal, and considering I’d fucked her son. She doesn’t want his leftovers 😛 even as excellent as this leftover would be if this leftover survived it ;D
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