ooc; For anyone that wondered, this was a thing on her Facebook today. Both the vampires not having sex and the Daniel & Marius bit.
//Awww. That’s sweet. (Not sarcastic. It is.) I definitely got the impression they cared very much for each other in PL. I still don’t read it as a romantic relationship. I don’t know it, it just doesn’t feel that way to me in the text. But I can see it being a very loving and intimate relationship. If it gets passionate, though, I see there being problems, given that Marius is so controlling and Daniel does not like being controlled. Will be interesting to see how this goes in Blood Paradise.
I do hope Armand and Daniel reconnect in some meaningful way (which doesn’t have to be at the expense of Dan’s relationship with Marius, whatever that is – I contend they’re not very monogamous creatures anyhow). But really, I just want to see them TALK, goddamn it. Nod at each other. SOMETHING.
//OOC: Yeah, so here’s actual the question I asked on Facebook AND the response, for those interested, since there’s a version going around without the question. Never actually asked about sex just the depth of the relationship, but Anne does usually throw that in during ship questions. (I still apply fanon logic since Ursula banged Vittorio in his book. Discrepancies, love it for fic and RP reasons.)
Yeah.. well, we all read PL, right? In this book EVERYONE loves EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in EVERY moment EVER mentioned! So yeah, of course that Marius loves Daniel. It does not confirm anything.
And sex. Didn’t Lestat say in QOTD that his johnson was like priapus ready for something that could never been performed anymore? Not with pleaure that is. So, well, technically, penetration is possible…but orgasm through that? Nah…
merciful-death said: ooc; Didn’t post the full question because I didn’t want to show disrespect by posting your real name on Tumblr. I apologize.
Yeah, I’d have done the same, Merciful “D”. 😉
//OOC: It was never explicitly stated in PL that Daniel reciprocated feelings for Marius, which is why I asked. With Anne’s response, now we know. Again, the point of this question was the ship, not sex, but the fandom seems incapable of enjoying the happy parts of anything without someone having a fit.
The Vampire Chronicles: If you shipped it, it was or will be canon at some point. The ship whore’s delight.
I can’t explain all those relationships! Even the characters involved couldn’t explain them. They’re a big ol pile of dysfunctional hipster vampires and their ships are a hot mess.
BUT I SHALL TRY. Nobody attack this please, I’m grossly over-simplifying for the sake of this one Anon’s overwhelmtion ;] #your headcanon may vary, #ship and let ship.
At their most basic:
Lestat/Louis – Murder husbands, OTP, 5ever
Lestat & Marius – not a pairing, but there’s definitely a mutual respect and caring in a paternal sorta way.
Lestat & Armand – not a pairing, but there’s definitely a mutual respect and caring in a fraternal sorta way MURDER BROS.
Lestat & Daniel – they’ve not had a lot of canon interaction but I’d bet Lestat is forever grateful that Daniel basically started the VC which eventually brought him back together with Louis. There’s fic and RP (see daniel-james-molloy) out there that would support a Lestat/Daniel BROTP, possibly an actual ship, I likes it.
Lestat/David – Post-TOBT David has had little canon interaction with Lestat in a loving fledgling/maker way. There have been one or two scenes of extreme feistiness between them, which were hot and problematic, but they seem to have reached a kind of amnesty and even care for eachother.
Armand & Marius – have a kind of amnesty between them. Marius has done some pretty insane things for Armand, with good intentions, but still.
Daniel is with Marius these days.
David is sort of a loner but he does visit with Louis, Lestat, and Jesse on occasion. They seem to be his closest friends.
I would say that the relationships change throughout the series, and that some ppl simply do not include certain books in their headcanon, which changes relationship dynamics, too. Including “present day” ship dynamics. For example, if you don’t include Prince Lestat in your VC headcanon, then Marius and Daniel have a different sort of (probably specifically and clearly) platonic relationship than they do if you DO include Prince Lestat.
For more specifics, check out VC Wiki, but there’s gonna be spoilers. Fair warning.
I woke up to the finished product of the tattoo commission in my inbox from sheepskeleton this morning, and all of the feels promptly exploded in my heart:
( Lestat/Daniel commission by sheepskeleton. Her commission’s info is here. Go. Go give her your monies. Fistfuls and bagfuls of monies. All the monies! )
Seriously, commission her, you won’t be sorry. Everything I wanted for this piece, all my requests, I got. She nailed it, guys.
The look between them. I know they’re one of the least popular VC ships out there, but frankly, and especially as I’m looking at this, I don’t give a damn. There’s no decades or centuries worth of bad blood between them yet. There’s no history of betrayal, abandonment, manipulation, or heartbreak between them. Sure, it’s there in their personal experiences, but not with one another, not yet. Would theirs be a waistcoat-ripping, fire-setting, loss-riddled, globe-stalking, psychologically damaging, deliver-you-to-death’s-doorstep romance?
No. But it could be something good. Lestat has been searching for goodness for centuries, and I’ll be damned if Daniel doesn’t deserve some goodness after everything he’s been through. I love this ship for it’s potential. Because it could possibly be functional. Daniel is a listener and Lestat is a talker. Daniel likes kissing and snuggling dead things and Lestat is amourous. Both are risk-takers in their own right so there’s opportunity for lots of fun and adventure. Because these are two personalities that I think would mesh well more often than they would clash. Because Daniel went searching for him and has been vampire fanboy number one for sixty years, and Lestat adores adoration. Because Lestat took the time during the potential annihilation of all of vampire-kind by Akasha to note that Daniel was pretty. Because Daniel would go with Lestat if he asked him too. And if wanting to see a ship that has capacity for good and such potential is wrong, I don’t ever want to be right.
//It is honestly very difficult for me to put in a word about the topic because I’m very bias, with Claudia being in my head and all. Everything tells me that if Claudia was in her adult form Louis would accept her as a lover. Though your points are very valid.
Yes, Claudia is more of a monster then Louis is comfortable with.
Yes, Louis has always seen Claudia as a daughter that its difficult to see her as anything but.
The fact is that Louis would do anything for her even if she’s a monster but he knew that even with a child’s body. Louis could never be so naive to not see that and if he didn’t he saw it when he read the evidence from Claudia’s diary. That didn’t stop him from loving her and wanting to see her again.
I’m not saying we would be alright with the relationship at first. Upon seeing her in such a form would stir many feeling in both of them but he wouldn’t be able to turn her away. Claudia sees it as something he could grow into.
Naturally they would become companions once more and in this form he wouldn’t be able to help looking at her a bit differently. Everyone’s problem is that they know Claudia is more then an adult but in a child’s form they ignore that fact and care on with things as they wish. In a adults body they would be force to see her as she is.
Louis would still love her, he couldn’t not.
He might have been in a relationship with Lestat at the time of her being around but we all know that his relationship with Claudia was more important due to him letting Claudia kill Lestat. Plus when Lestat went after them later on Louis once again aided in helping destroy Lestat and defended Claudia.
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