Hello, I was wondering if Anne Rice has ever addressed why her female characters are more peripheral to the story than her male characters, and why she seems to avoid depicting wlw relationships. This has always bothered me; I don’t want to jump to labeling her as misogynistic, but it seems like her female characters are coded as female, while the males are just characters, if that makes sense. It seems like the men are bi and the women straight. Thank you, hope you don’t mind answering!

Hello! This was a really tough ask, and very intellectually stimulating, and opening it further, I ended up considering the larger topic of What is an author’s obligation to their readers? What is an artist’s obligation to their viewers/audience? I don’t know. 

In that line of consideration, I don’t recall AR ever bringing up these specific issues in (or out) of canon, or whether she’s been asked about it. I don’t think she’s ever said anything about avoiding depicting wlw relationships… these seem like questions you could ask her directly on FB, but my prediction is that she would be unwilling to address them. My impression of her is that she enjoys praise but does not feel obligated to write anything for anyone but herself, for better or worse.

To use the word “avoiding” implies she’s aware of it as a failure on her part, and I don’t think she is aware of it.

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[^Fanart by @garama, mommy!Louis w/ his parenting guide,

this looks, like a good mom, he’s forcing the other two into some kind of parent-child bonding exercise!]

Re: Coding characters as male or female, that discussion is kind of confusing to me. I’ve seen fandom discourse refer to Louis as the “mommy” in the Lestat, Louis, and Claudia family in IWTV (a little more on that under the cut). Louis is only one example of a male character who may have been intentionally written as being more of the stereotypically female role than a male; he is more protective and nurturing to Claudia like a mother would be, and Lestat seems to “wear the pants” in that household. IDK if that is sufficient as “coding a male character as female.”

  • why her female characters are more peripheral to the story than her male characters, 
  • why she seems to avoid depicting wlw relationships. 
  • I don’t want to jump to labeling her as misogynistic, but it seems like her female characters are coded as female, while the males are just characters, if that makes sense. 
  • It seems like the men are bi and the women straight. 

^This is a lot to consider, any one of which could be a whole essay of response. Anyone who has opinions on this is welcome to reblog/comment, as this is not an area of expertise for me. And, IMO, it’s not an area of expertise for Anne Rice, either.

TL;DR: I don’t think AR intended to “avoid” the topics you bring up, I believe she was more focused on her own topics (I list some under the cut). AR had posted “On My Method of Writing:” as part of a message on her page, 8/20/2003, which I found informative. A few excerpts are under the cut.

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[^May 10, 2016- X] AR has said many times that she writes the books she wants to see in the world, no other intentions.

What is an author’s obligation to their readers? What is an artist’s obligation to their viewers/audience? I don’t know. We are all entitled to our own answers to that question.

Hit the jump for more, cut for length and QOTD spoiler.


To my knowledge, there isn’t any Universal Fiction Supreme Court (<– Tumblrland Hyperbole, just trying to add a little levity!) which require authors to satisfy certain demands in their writing. Just as I was recently called out both for sharing negative opinions/critical analysis

and for not sharing

negative opinions/critical analysis, it is hard, if not impossible, to please everyone, even if that’s a blogger/author’s goal. I try to compromise when I can, but that’s my own prerogative. AR seems to provide a little fanservice now and then and will write more of X, Y, Z when the POTP ask her to write more of X, Y, Z, but that’s her own prerogative.

Perhaps the misogyny some people perceive in her books is real, perhaps it’s internalized for her. She might deserve that label. I don’t know how I feel about that. 

From all that I’ve absorbed over the years, she wrote about what intrigued her. This is just the first few things that come to mind of things I’ve seen in canon, in different variations, things she may have discussed outside the novels, things she has always seemed to want to explore:

  • Her own retail and geographical interests/fetishes (classical painting, jewelry (cameos!!), high fashion (VELVET!), low fashion, literature, Shakespeare, music and culture of the 80′s (BLADE RUNNER & BON JOVI), SCIENCE and technology (iPHONES!), interior decorating, New Orleans, Miami, Ancient Rome, Paris, etc.);
  • Sexuality & power;
  • Religion and its role in terms of meting out punishment to those who deserve it and misapplied to innocent people, punishments as fitting a crime and punishments for no crime, varying forms of punishment;
  • Revenge and whether it is justified;
  • World peace and how to achieve it;
  • Whether there is a God who will embrace us when we die, whether we will meet our loved ones who died before/after us, whether there is an eternal heaven and hell, etc. Whether we will get the answers to all of life’s questions;
  • Religion and its setup as a social group and whether it requires genuine belief in order to be part of that group;
  • Very hot guys and what they do w/ their dicks;
  • Childlike, adorable women;
  • Precocious young adults/teens who are interested in sex before coming of legal age;
  • Consent, dubious consent, and lack of consent across many different categories;
  • etc.

^I feel like all of her writing can be summed up as speculation on these topics (and others), exploring them to find out “what would happen if…” and presenting results which she does NOT promote, results which she DOES promote, and results she offers up to the reader’s interpretations. Misogyny can be easily woven into many of those topics w/ or w/o intention on the author’s part.  

As an example of a speculative situation, involving a possible misandrist character: in QOTD, radical feminist Akasha believed she could guarantee world peace by killing off 90% of the men. She starts doing it but is thwarted before making much progress. If she could have continued, would it have been a successful plan? I believe AR is suggesting that it would not, that as enticing as the idea was, radical feminism is too extreme and would have failed. And further, that the misandrist proponent of radical feminism may have been missing a few marbles even as a mortal, in addition to being out of touch with reality as a nearly omnipotent immortal.

So my answer is that I don’t think AR intended to “avoid” the topics you bring up, I believe she was more focused on her own topics.

Re: Coding characters as male or female, that discussion is kind of confusing to me. I’ve seen fandom discourse refer to Louis as the “mommy” in the Lestat, Louis, and Claudia family in IWTV. AR has said Louis was basically written as herself (she famously said, and I can’t find the source rn but I remember it distinctly: “I’m the only woman ever played by Brad Pitt in film!”), evidence that she did see that character as female? Possibly.


“On My Method of Writing:” 8/20/2003, excerpts (my emphasis added):

“I have been writing most of my adult life, of course, but very steadily since about 1970.”

^Idk if coding gender into characters was a thing then. 

“My method of writing is to develop the novel sentence by sentence, paragraph by paragraph and page by page with heavy rewriting and reshaping and editing as I go along,… until I had the perfected page in order to proceed to the next page.”

^I seem to recall her saying that some of her novels are planned out w/ plot points first, others just flow in the order she writes them, w/o pre-planning.

“After the publication of the The Queen of the Damned, I requested of my editor that she not give me anymore comments. I resolved to hand in the manuscripts when they were finished. And asked that she accept them as they were. She was very reluctant, feeling that her input had value, but she agreed to my wishes. I asked this due to my highly critical relationship with my work and my intense evolutionary work on every sentence in the work, my feeling for the rhythm of the phrase and the unfolding of the plot and the character development. I felt that I could not bring to perfection what I saw unless I did it alone. In othe words, what I had to offer had to be offered in isolation. So all novels published after The Queen of the Damned were written by me in this pure fashion, my editor thereafter functioning as my mentor and guardian.”

^Her editor was demoted to copyeditor

mentor and guardian

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“…

the writing you are reading is quite deliberate, that it is informed and it is conscious, as well as being the result of intuition. It is the result of all that I am – my education, my mystic sensibilities, and the student in me. It is poured out fearlessly, and then edited, and re-edited, and subjected to merciless scrutiny. It represents, and always has, my finest efforts.”

^Her writing is all intentional and her focus is intentional.

Dear Lestat Claus, since it’s December I would like to sit on your lap and read my list: I would like for you to be my best friend , and I want a chateau in the french country side, a chalet in the alps, and a yacht. I want a pony too. I wuv uuuuuu..

♛You’re asking for quite a lot, ma petite! Have you been Nice enough for such a bounty? I wish I could just give it all to you without hesitation, but there’s still time for you to switch to the Naughty list, and then all these gifts would have been ill-given *winks*

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If you’re asking for such extravagant things, you sound like you have a wonderful life as it is! Take a moment to reflect on that. Not everyone has that luxury.

Best friends don’t usually come gift-wrapped and bound in ribbons, you do have to earn them, you know… but sharing my adventures with you, although mostly one-sided, is that not a form of friendship already? I always felt that it was. Immortality does not increase the number of hours in a night and I just can’t physically be present to as a best friend with everyone *frowns.* My books are extensions of me, so give them a hug, I’ll feel it *smiles.* 

… Or better yet, reach out to someone who also loves my books, even someone who prefers Armand over me (how dare anyone prefer him over me), and they could be the best friend you seek *hugs*

I’m really not trying to call you out, or get angry, but you’re a really big voice in the fandom, and I think that you need to consider how you respond to people: you’re very harsh with some suggestions/opinions/head-cannons, (Lestat being bipolar or having ptsd, neither of which we’re certain of; the way that some people like to tease IWTV the movie; people who really enjoy or at think fans should give Rice’s new work a chance; people that really like TQOTD) [tbc]

[part 3] I really like this blog, and I really like you as a spokesperson of sorts for the Tumblr side of her fanbase, but it’d be great if you could take a step back and consider how much you criticize the opinions of others. You put a lot of stuff below the cut, and maybe your’e just stressing a lot as of late because I’ve noticed it more now than before, but you often shut down people very quickly who have different ideas or thoughts on the series than you do. 


(Was there a part 2? If there was, then Tumblr ate it.)

I deeply considered this message, it’s been over one whole day, so I’m not replying too quickly. 

“…maybe your’e just stressing a lot as of late…”? Thank you for the concern, but no… in the past 2 weeks, we have a new VC book to read and there is turbulence in the fandom about the VC rights reverting back to Anne Rice… my reactions have been the normal amount of mixed emotions for this kind of information. Sometimes there’s exaggeration, which is normal for social media; to replace the emotions we don’t express vocally, w/ gestures, or w/ facial expressions. 

I have to respectfully disagree with you. I’m going to reply to this as thoughtfully as I can, without a cut, but basically: make Tumblr a good place for you, and unfollow me if you need to do so.

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[^X by @purplekecleon, now known as @glitchedpuppet]

1. As stated before, I do not hold myself out as “a really big voice,” any kind of official authority of, or spokesperson for, this fandom. I have accepted titles in a humorous way only, I do not consider my headcanons/opinions above anyone else’s.

In As stated before,” linking to a post from 1 week ago, someone else told me that “as a monolith of the fandom,” I have an obligation to be MORE critical, share more critical opinions of VC than I do already, so you can see that I can’t please that person AND you at the same time. Since I consider meta-analysis and reviews to be a form of fanwork, and I encourage fanworks, I am going to continue to share them.

I never told anyone NOT to read the new Anne Rice books PL and PLROA. I have respectfully shared some concerned and negative reviews. Rice is a professional writer and knows that part of putting her work out there means that it is vulnerable to readers’ review. If one bad review stops a long-time lover of a book series from reading the latest book, that’s sad, but I would not censor negative reviews. Rice used to respond to negative reviews, but currently, I believe that her stance is to ignore them. 

2. #Your Headcanon May Vary – I don’t always include this fandom law, as this is a fandom blog so it applies by default, but I’ve included it anyway, enough times that I thought it was understood implicitly by now. I am not going to add it as a disclaimer to every response, because I feel like it does not need to be stated. I don’t know if you are new to fandom, but here are a few more Fandom Laws, following them is about “being courteous in fandom. It makes the whole experience better for all of us.”

This is a social platform, and we all have our own opinions about these fictional characters, film/TV adaptations of canon, and the canon in general. We do not need to agree. We do not need to soften our opinions for anyone. Part of what is so great about a social platform like this is the exchange of ideas, it’s intellectually stimulating to consider other people’s interpretations and headcanons, even if they are stated in a harsh and/or strong manner. I consider every single one that is suggested to me, and I can decide if I want to accept it or not. It doesn’t matter where the ideas come from, even someone suggesting something who has only seen movie!QOTD might have a great idea I might accept!

My headcanon is a collection of my own and other people’s ideas from discussions, fanfics, fanart, meta-analysis posts, etc. which I have absorbed over the last 20+ years I’ve been in fandom. Most of my headcanon would not exist if I did not discuss ideas with other people, or engage in fandom through fanworks. I am grateful for all of the rich discussions and even heated arguments I’ve had about VC over the years!

There are many opinions out there that I disagree with, but I go by the Real Life rule of “Live and Let Live.” Here’s two examples:

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[^X by @vampchronfic]

  • A) People bash Antonio Banderas as Armand in IWTV, he is one of the fandom’s punching bags. I have stated my opinions about him in my #Defending Antonio tag, but I don’t mind that other people still don’t like him. If I am the only one who liked him as Armand in that movie, that’s totally fine by me! 
  • B) Just as I do poke fun at movie!QOTD, I don’t mind if other people adore it. I know that some people find it nostalgic. Some people love the soundtrack. Some people love Aaliyah or Stuart Townsend, any number of reasons, or just, “I don’t know why, I just like it” are all fine!

^I am actually friendly with both (A) the people who despise Antonio!Armand, and (B) the people who love movie!QOTD, because we can Live and Let Live. Friendship is not dependent on agreement.

Being in the same fandom with people does not mean that they have to agree with you. I used to think that it did, and that it guaranteed friendship. It does neither of those things. If we all agreed on everything, would there even be anything left to discuss? 

#IWANTMYIWTV RP

One of the examples you mentioned of my being harsh re: my headcanons was an Ask directed to Lestat, and I answered as Lestat, in character. Yes, he often responds harshly. I headcanon him as a friendly character but guarded, especially against anonymous strangers, even those that very respectfully suggest that he has a mental illness. Anyone can ask other Lestat RPers the same thing and see what they might say.

In that response, he begins with taking offense, but then winds down to pointing out that it’s unfortunate that medication/therapy carries an unfair stigma, that he does go to therapy, and considers that medical intervention may have helped Nicolas. So to write all that off as being harsh makes me feel like you didn’t read the answer fully. I put some of the response under the cut because cutting long posts is part of Tumblr etiquette.

I do not headcanon him as bipolar. Whether or not he is bipolar is up to every reader’s interpretation. Which brings me to my next point:

The real VC authority

It’s worth mentioning that on FB in another thread, in another topic, Anne Rice herself was asked about “But as a long time fan, I’ve ( and many other fans, I´m sure..) never understood the whole “Lestat and Louis- thing” and I think in a psychologically way it is also very interesting. Please, can you POFOUNDLY explain this whole relationship?” 

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^Is Anne Rice abdicating authority here? I’m not sure. It looks like she wants the asker to draw their own conclusions. But I have seen her questioned on FB, at booksignings, and spoken of on tumblr and elsewhere, in ways that lead me to believe that she is not considered the authority on VC to 100% of the fandom, and that she doesn’t mind that.

I love what she has given us, but she isn’t my authority. I don’t need her validation on my headcanons. If the creator of the series is not the authority, who is? Not me, I’m just one person. 

You don’t need my validation. You don’t need anyone’s validation. You are your own VC authority, anon.

You can form your own headcanons and share them, convince people of them, or not. Make your fandom experience good for you, Live and Let Live, and unfollow me if you need to. I totally understand and wish you well.

Hi, a long time ago I read interview, the vampire lestat and the queen of the damned. I want to fall in love again with the saga, can you recommend me what book should I read now, there is so many that I can’t choose. Thank you very much, I really love your blog!

Thanks for the compliments! Glad you like my blog 😀

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(I get this question in different variations every so often, it’s under my #Order of Operations for VC tag, if you want more thoughts on that.)

I always suggest reading all the books, but not everyone can or wants to do that. Those first 3 books tend to be considered as the best of the VC by the fandom in general, but individuals have different opinions.

I’d suggest you go on to book 4, Tale of the Body Thief, and read them in order, bc that’s the order in which AR explored her stories. I don’t know what aspect of VC you fell in love with before, so if you could tell me about that and/or your fave character(s), whether you have an issue with problematic things bc some VC books are more problematic than others… I could tell you whether you might want to skip Tale of the Body Thief, for example 😉

Dearest Lestat, I’ve been having a difficult time lately. I’ve recently attempted suicide, I have some family members engaging in some questionable and dangerous behaviors, I’ve struggled with depression and anxiety (among other mental illnesses), everything feels horrible and heavy. Like being suffocated slowly, like being pressed to death. Do you have any advice or any reasons to encourage me to continue to live?

(ooc; Reminder: if you have already taken something or done something to harm yourself please call 911. If you haven’t done anything and if you’re thinking about suicide, please talk to the suicide hotline 1-800-273-TALK (8255) in the U.S., to find a suicide helpline outside the U.S., visit IASP or Suicide.org. Please read Suicide Help.)

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♛Anon! 

Your message is heartbreaking. I wish I could come to you and convince you in person that you should live! As powerful as I am, I have my limits, and I can’t track you by IP address, I have hackers working on finding you as I write this.

I wrote a response to you already, twice, deleted both times. From what you have shared, and survived, the burdens you bear, I am so sorry you’ve been dealt such a hand in life. I hear you. We hear you. You’re not alone. 

I’m reaching for you, as you reached out to me to share your story, just reach out to me a little further, close the distance between us by taking the step to ask for help. Call the suicide hotline

1-800-273-TALK (8255) in the US, or find it in your area

IASP or Suicide.org. Call the local hospital. Call 911. It’s me on the other end of that line, I’m there, just with a different voice and a different name.

Please do this one small thing, since you already did a big thing by writing to me!

Reasons to live, a very short list, just to begin with:

  • Puppies, kittens, zoos
  • Botanical gardens
  • Museums
  • Art Galleries
  • Films
  • Music
  • Libraries and books
  • Candles
  • Bath soaps
  • Loved ones
  • Art you want to make
  • Poetry and stories you want to write
  • So many other things… (ooc; please add to this list, everyone! Reblog or in the comments)

My childhood nurse used to sing this poem to me, maybe it will help you:

“A rainbow cross the clear blue sky, Do you see it?

In the oven bakes a pie, Do you smell it?

A bluebird cries a happy cry, Do you hear it?

Notice all the goodly things in your life, then you will be happy.”

Ok, I don’t know if they cover this in later book but I was curious: what exactly happens to the AR vampires if they don’t sleep in a coffin? Like if they didn’t sleep in a coffin, or underground, or in a grave, etc. but instead in a normal bed? I guess they wouldn’t be able to get “deep vampire sleep-death (you know)” But is it possible? (And this is assuming no sunlight.) I’m really sorry if this sounds stupid. Thanks

lol no, Ricean vampires don’t actually need to sleep in coffins.

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[Lestat’s about to read Louis the bedtime story “Go the F*ck to Sleep”]

They do sleep in coffins in IWTV, tho, bc what they do need is complete protection from sunlight, and from anyone who might disturb them during the day. NOLA had those huge French windows everywhere, lots of sunshine in every room 😉

The deathsleep takes them and they’re powerless against it; when the sun is up, the vampires are down.

I just realized that in TVL Marius calls Armand ‘Armand’ during the Venice flashback and the discontinuity hit me like a brick in the face

(It’s this line, right?) “Rise, Armand, we must leave here. They have come!”

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[^I don’t have a pic of Armand from the scene you mentioned, so have Claudia in a library w/ a bunch of studious older dudes who are probably concerned about what an 11 yo is studying for all these hours so late at night]

Armand’s Venice flashback was in Mind-Gift-Vision™ (or whatever you want to call it!), blasting out of Armand at Lestat and Gabrielle like water from a fire hydrant, and Lestat later transcribed it all for us about 200 yrs later. The Mind Gift is not exactly like reading a book; it seems to be more about sharing images, snippets of sound and feeling. Why did Lestat use Armand’s name in that quote and not “Amadeo”? Some ideas:

  • Lestat wrote it 200 years after experiencing it, and yes, vampiric memory is supposed to be perfect, but he also went through a few assassination attempts, so it’s possible that a few brain cells were lost along the way.
  • If Lestat ‘heard’ an “Amadeo,” in the vision, maybe he thought he must have misheard bc he knew Armand as “Armand,” and transcribed the name he knew. 
  • Maybe Armand concealed the name Marius gave him, maybe it was too painful for him to share that information with someone who had just wrecking ball’d his coven like Miley Cyrus in a red velvet tank top & undies.
  • Maybe Armand had been successfully brainwashed to the point of sealing off that name off from his memory after all those years with the Children of Darkness, to remember it after Lestat left Paris at that time.
  • Or it was our usual *~unreliable narrator~* situation, assign the blame to Armand or Lestat 😉
  • … Or, LASTLY, and most likely, it was AR who hadn’t come up with the “Amadeo” part yet. *sighs*

I can understand why discrepancies and discontinuities can be jarring, and people do bash the authors of novels for delivering what the readers see as some kind of inferior product :- 

IMO, I don’t think an author, artist, or musician is obligated to serve to you a complete and perfect story/picture/song, w/ complete and perfect facts. AR has never said that was her intention. Even the Bible has discrepancies. 

Instead of being jarred out of the story, why not make our own headcanons? You can call them “excuses” if you want 😉 Like I just did above. It’s reasonable to assume Armand didn’t want to share that name. It’s reasonable to assume Armand didn’t remember it in that moment, or that Lestat failed to catch that detail, or thought it was incorrect.

Fanworks can criticize but they can also repair what’s confusing, can fill in the interstices of canon (check out this types of fanfic diagram!). You can engage with the material to criticize it, or you can engage with it to repair it, so many ways to engage with canon and, specifically, its discrepancies.

People doing this with fanfic, fanart, and meta-analysis have made the VC so rich! Shared ideas have cured many things that were jarring for me. The missing musician vampire bothered me for so many years, and then, before PL was even a twinkle in AR’s eye, I had at least one strong answer for his disappearance and it gave me a new appreciation for him, for Lestat, for his part in the fabric of the story. 

Your headcanon is up to you. You can enhance canon with it. You have that power. Ask other people for their ideas, they can help, too. 

Now I’m not saying every discrepancy can be explained, but it is somewhat more manageable in the earlier books. I would love to see people do it with the later books! With the larger things… that are harder to explain. 

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Some of my favorite art misleads or leaves things out. Here’s, basically, fanart of Jackie O by Al Hirschfeld:

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^She has the slightly cartoonish distortion all around, there are strong gesture lines, there are detailed areas (the necklace, the hair, etc.), there’s her face w/

distorted features, and then there are missing lines. The back of her left arm, most of her right arm, but you as the viewer can fill those in yourself. They’re not drawn but they’re there. 

It’s not a photograph, it’s an artist’s interpretation of his subject, how she occupies space, maybe how she moves through it, her inner spirit.

Idk, not everyone likes Hirschfeld. I’m sure some people do not consider it to be Art. We all have our own experiences and our own ideas of what Art and Beauty and Good Writing are. Fanworks are a form of engagement with Art. 

Lestat, when and where is your next adventure?… you ..went to heaven… hell… atlantis… now what?… The moon? Pluton?… another galaxy?… you need to stop drinking from drunk and high people… This is getting crazier… xD

♛Drunk and high people can be SO much fun, though, don’t you think? Visit the moon? And did you mean Pluto? Another galaxy?! Are these challenges? I’ve broken into NASA once before, don’t f$*#ing tell me what to do… *hides Star Trek and Star Wars graphic novels and paraphernalia* Light sabers are real, aren’t they?

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Bonjour cherie! As a long time fan of VC would you, much as myself, kill for at least one chapter from Louis’ point of view? Because I know I would…

Bon soir… 

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Idk if I would kill for it but I would really like some of that ❤ I haven’t read PLROA yet, maybe we’ll get some Louis POV there or in the next book. We had a chapter from his POV in PL. What would you want to know about him specifically? What would you want him to write about? 

There are Louis RPers out there if you wish to get in touch w/ him directly, so to speak. Hey ppl, Like if you are a Louis RPer, Reblog/Comment on this to recc us Louis RPers!