Hi! I have a question and you seem so knowledgeable about the series! In “Pandora,” Pandora is drained to the point of death by Akbar, then given blood by Marius. At that point she is described as still human. Then she drinks from Akasha, and Marius tells her she is immortal. Why is Marius and not Akasha called Pandora’s maker? Is it possible that they both are? If someone is turned by drinking from multiple vampires, would they not be able to share thoughts with any of them? Thanks!

Hey! Thanks for reaching out to me, I like to think I know something about this series… but I have big areas of inexpertise, in which I call forth those who who would be able to answer better, and you’ve hit one such case.

…which is bizarre, to have this kind of gray area, that I had ALWAYS considered completely resolved, that Marius was Pandora’s maker, and didn’t question it in the least, and then here YOU are, questioning it! I’m more amused that anything else, but still!

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Imma take a little stab at it, anyway, and post publicly so as to open this up to anyone to reblog/comment to correct me, offer their own ideas on it.

So! Since there are newer fans these days: Spoilers ahead for Pandora.


Why is Marius and not Akasha called Pandora’s maker?

TL;DR: After rereading the scene, I think Marius is in fact Pandora’s maker, and Akasha’s infusion was post-turning (minutes later) as evidenced by Pandora’s “renewed vigor” and the fact that she’s already perceiving more before she drinks from Akasha.

Longer answer: From what I gather, yes, Akbar drained Pandora. Which in itself does not need to be done by the maker during the Dark Gift procedure. It typically IS done by the maker, but Louis, for example, was already pretty drained by the time he was going to be turned (mortals had bled him more than once to try to cure his madness, um, wasteful!). IIRC, Jesse had suffered a lot of blood loss from her injuries. So the removal of blood is not as crucial as the blood being given. Although, a vampire’s strength may partly lie in how the procedure is done. It’s not an exact science (this post goes into more about that).

HOWEVER, it made it necessary to save her life. Marius has Akbar bring her to the shrine, at which point Akbar sets her down to go beg at Akasha’s feet, as well he should. At this point! Pandora describes drinking blood, and Marius is with her, so it’s his. Then she goes into a lot of description about passing through a veil, changed perception of things, etc. So I think that there is where she was turned officially. 

And then:

“The crown, she would have her crown,” I said. With astonishing vigor I walked forward towards her.

^Pandora seems pretty well revived from being on the verge of death.

Now, within the same few minutes, she does drink from Akasha, but I think this infusion is already too late to be the definitive blood to turn her. It is a powerful infusion, though. As Akasha is drawing her near, the narration says:

I felt myself, a human, held together by the intricate threads of blood which Marius had given me. I felt the design of its support. It had no weight, my body. 

^So I can see where one might be confused bc Pandora is calling herself human here, but she’s also held together by Marius’ blood, and combined with the other points above, I see her as a fresh fledgling already here.


Is it possible that they both are [Pandora’s makers]? 

Sure, it’s possible! It’s fiction, so you can headcanon it however you want, you can justify it in any number of ways 🙂 

@roselioncourt​ would be a very good resource for you in terms of a multi-Maker Dark Gift exchange, bc Rose got this treatment in Prince Lestat. She would have a better answer for you about the mind-sharing situation in that case. 

The act of the Dark Gift, IMO, is the vampire maker sharing their vampiric parasite with the mortal they seek to turn. Since that parasite is the same one, just spread out among all the vampires, there’s no reason why 2 or more makers couldn’t give it over in whatever quantity and produce a single fledgling together.

In Pandora’s case, I feel like the change was already taking root by the time she got the infusion from Akasha, but if you read it as being more nebulous, then sure! Marius and Akasha can both be considered Pandora’s makers!

If someone is turned by drinking from multiple vampires, would they not be able to share thoughts with any of them? 

Yes, I think that’s right.

We’ve seen in canon that typically, a maker chooses their fledgling as someone they want as a companion into eternity. But sometimes fledglings are chosen just to fill up a coven, though, so the maker is not expected to have that intimate of a relationship with just another congregant in the group.

The point to having a mental block with someone who may be your companion into eternity, to my mind, is that if you could also share that aspect of the other person, you might get bored of them pretty fast, or it could be the cause of arguments, or any number of bad outcomes. Putting up this barrier creates some mystery about the other person, and makes it so you have to keep pursuing them, over the course of hundreds of years.

If there’s a multi-maker situation, I would think you’d get the barrier between them and the fledgling only, which would piss off that fledgling immensely. Can you imagine:

Vampires A, B, and C turn Vampire Y. So (assuming none of them are makers of each other) A, B, and C can all share thoughts with each other and Y is constantly left out and bitter about it. Bc they may all be sitting around some nights, and A and B will start laughing randomly and C will chastise them lightly, “Can you guys not? Y can’t hear you.” Poor Y!

I can’t remember which VC it was that AR tried to do some triangulated mind-reading, but it was complicated. Two vampires who were locked from each other could access each other through a conduit vampire who was not locked from them. Might have been Blood Canticle. 

Oh my god, I was just checking your blog and it reminded me that I share my birthday with Claudia xD I think 24 would be a good age to become a vampire. Hint hint Lestat

i-want-my-iwtv:

(Happy Birthday, Anon!)

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//ooc; Louis is 85% of Lestat’s birth impulse* control.

*Edited bc of @theraphaellus‘s comment!

Hey! I was wondering if you could help me find a good ‘monologue’ style quote from tvc. Im a long time follower, and you’re the most knowledgeable source I could think to ask! I started out high school drama club with a VC quote, and as a senior I wanted to end my time in drama club with one too. Thanks for any help you can give 💕💕

Hello @veridian-stealth, thanks for being a long time follower! I admit I haven’t absorbed enough of canon sufficient to say I’m the most knowledgeable source, but I do what I can ^______^ 

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I love the idea of your starting & ending high school drama club

with a VC quote, good closure there. Which did you start with? 

I skimmed the first 2 books, and this is already a long post with only putting 5 in, bc these are the ones that jumped out at me. They’re small windows into evocative scenes. Things that I can see an actor giving to an audience, pieces that might be able to stand on their own apart from the rest of the fabric of VC. 

TBH I can’t remember many monologues that really stood out for me in the rest of canon, but anyone is welcome to reblog/comment and add ones that they would suggest to you 😉 Let us know which you pick, share a video even!

No cuts bc I don’t think this is spoilery.


In order of canon appearance:

-> IWTV:

1) Louis talks about Paul and his death. I edited it down somewhat and took out Daniel’s dialogue but you should probably do it better than I did.

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2) Lestat’s “Evil is a point of view” monologue, that would take a lot of editing, but if you want to take a stab at it, go for it! But keep in mind, the last bit is recognizable from movie!IWTV, and ppl will probably compare your performance to Cruise!Lestat. I also don’t think it ends on the best line, so yeah… with edits it could work and be vampiry. I’ve always loved this first para to it.

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3) Armand re: inflexible minded vampires. This is really short but I’ve always loved this passage (BTW there’s a bunch of typos in my PDF of this, so you’ll have to check with a better copy).

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-> TVL:

4) Lestat’s mercy kill, this might be my fave of these. You might want to give a little context, maybe add more about when he got back home and his brother accused him of making it up.

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5) A short para from an old queen:

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Came for pics of Lestat. Stayed for basically everything (except Armand, sorry Armand).

Thank u! I, too, love pics of Lestat. Especially when he’s flustered…

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[^X I made dis]

(I’m sorry that I don’t post as much of other characters, even though you said you weren’t here for Armand. Clearly I do play faves with them… but my #cute armand tag is probably my best contribution for Armand fans.)

To follow up on the previous anon, do you think Lestat loves Louis?? I certainly do!!!

i-want-my-iwtv:

#nobody ships Louis and Lestat harder than Lestat ships Louis and Lestat

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Hello ! I hope you are fine !:) I just wanted to know, if you have already seen fan art from Amel ? I saw few, but not as much as I thought. And what do you think about him ? :)

Hey! Thanks, doing well. Hope you are, too. 

What do I think about Amel… I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I find the idea of him in the earlier books and his role in the vampire origin story fascinating on a spiritual and physiological level, a cosmic accident being the reason for vampires is still, to my mind, a very unique take on that. I liked his interactions with mortals before he fused with Akasha, and I liked the idea of him as an intellectually dormant substance that bound all the vampires together. 

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^Later, when Amel became conscious, I also was intrigued by the concept of him riding along with one specific vampire but able to run around the web of them on visits. I wrote two fics post-PL in which Lestat deals with this.

A Brief Reprieve After the events of Prince Lestat, Lestat reflects on certain aspects of his new spirit animal, snuggled up lovingly with Armand by a fire in winter. Slightly AU in that they are snuggled up together lovingly by a fire in winter!

Bad Connection  Daniel and Lestat are out on the town when Amel decides to join them. He is very much a painful third wheel, and Daniel has to help Lestat through the attack.

On the other hand, I struggle to buy Amel’s backstory according to PL&PLROA, and I didn’t personally need him to be more special than he already was, being a spirit and indefinable, with nebulous origins, that was fine for me. But more power to the ppl who liked his backstory! 

I’ve only seen a few pieces of Amel fanart, but it exists! I’m about to reblog one but check my #Amel tag for the rest. 

Anyone else have Amel fanart? Tag me or send the link over 😀

Mon Chaviler D’or, may I ask what is your favorite animal? I would like to have it tattooed on me as well as you.

♛I have many favorite animals. Tigers, horses, wolves, dogs, swans, rodents, insects… but above all I’ve always loved snakes, those slender bodies clothed in such gorgeous scales and patterns, that sweet little expression so many of them have with their little flicking tongues, and then those sinister fangs when they open their mouths. I relate deeply to that. I’d love to have a poisonous bite like some of them have. Only, I’d prefer to fire aphrodisiacs into my victims *smiles*

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“Ah, come now. I look like an angel, but I’m not. The old rules of nature encompass many creatures like me. We’re beautiful like the diamond-backed snake, or the striped tiger, yet we’re merciless killers”

– Tale of the Body Thief 

¯_(ツ)_/¯: do you have any tumblr friends? if so, who are they?

demonheartofgold:

theoneandonlylestat:

monsieur-nicolas-de-lenfent:

Tumblr offered me the chance to meet some pretty amazing writers, artists and VC fans. While reading some of you, I finally decided to set up this RP side blog here and delve deeper into my exploration of Nicolas and so far it’s been an epic ride.

@i-want-my-iwtv has been the first VC blog I found on Tumblr, many moons ago and she encouraged me to get back into the RP saddle. Words are little, few to express the feels I have for the amazing gift you’ve gave me.

here’s to you, my amazing RP companions with whom I write, you’re some of the most talented writers I’ve had the chance to meet and I feel completely honored to be able to create with you these rich universes we explore for our characters!

here’s to you: @theoneandonlylestat @everlastingporcelain @desanctii @pandoratheancient @mariusthevampire @amelthebravennian @moral-cipher @amadeo-child-of-the-renaissance @angel-in-oils @ourbotticelliangel @sangcreole @perladivenezia @demonheartofgold @jadedcreole @hisdarkangellouis @sovereign-cleric @alessandrablackwell @tueur-de-loup

Without you this would not be possible so BIG thank you to you too for the amazing stories shared and the future ones to come

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#VC fandom love back atcha!<333