THANK U. See, this is an example of someone coming into the fandom through movie!IWTV, and enjoying Antonio!Armand. You can be a VC fan coming in from anywhere and like what you like ā¤Ā
[I was kind of bummed out when I read the book to find out heās like 16 and looks completely different. Iām just wondering if anyone else felt that way.]
No, I donāt often get this kind of message, itās usually how disappointed fans are that he doesnāt match the book description.
But your points are well-taken. He was so secretive and seductive and dark (and that hair!), and tbh I didnāt even mind that it was a wig. Some ethnicities DO have really thick hair like that. I thought it added to his other-worldliness. That version of Armand was turned at a time when it was normal to have super long hair, apparently? Maybe it was important as part of him being a vampire, like it was for Marius, to grow his hair long before he was turned? Weāre not told in the movie but itās part of his mystery.
I remember my own impression reading IWTV for the first time was that he was definitely an adult.
In book!IWTV, Armand is described as having auburn hair, andĀ deep, brown eyes, but I donāt think he was described as being as youthful as heās described in TVL and later books.Ā
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I donāt think his other brother was ever mentioned by name, no š
I donāt really love this bit of canon but itās an interesting explanation; in Blackwood Farm,Ā Lestat says his name isĀ ācompounded of the first letter of each of my six older brothersā names,ā so theyād have to have started with L, E, S, or T, bc A was for Augustin. And two of his brothers started with T.Ā
I was working on a ficlet at one point and wanted to include this unnamed brother, talking about him in a PM with someone, and came up with āĆtienne,ā which is a French equivalent of Stephen/Steven.
Proooobably itās bc I headcanon him as looking like Steve Zahn and I CANNOT explain why that is, but I am 99% married to this headcanon.
^This is from Joy Ride.
I think itās bc heās somewhat attractive, but only bc of his cartoonish attitudes, very smarmy but simple-minded, seems like the younger of the two brothers, desperate to please the older one, Augustin could easily lead him around, he wouldnāt question being ordered to beat on his younger brother, even if he didnāt take much pleasure in it.Ā
So the brotherās names (not necessarily in birth order) would be:
L-?
E- (I am really attached to Ćtienne!??)
S-?
T-?
Augustin
T-?
Lestat
Off-topic but still, I like to think the eighth de Lioncourt was a girl, bc really, 8 boys in a row is unusual. @viaticumforthemarquise named her Mireille, I think *u*
//ooc: This is another fairly old ask, from November, 2017.Ā I think anon was trying to rile Lestat by calling LouisĀ āa sad sack of a man and doesnāt really seem to be worth loving.ā Limiting him to just being ābeautiful.ā And while it is fun to rile Lestat and see how he reacts, idk⦠I was kind of taken aback by this and I had too many thoughts about it to have Lestat respond flippantly, which he would have. I think Lestat either gets defensive about loving Louis, or just dismisses these kinds of comments, one less person for him to compete with for Louisā attention, lol.
TL;DR: I think when ppl ask that, part of where they may be coming from is that THEY feel like aĀ āsad sackā whoās maybe not worth being loved, especially by the main character in a series, a flashy glittery murder machine. They worry that even if theyāre loved for beingĀ ābeautifulā that that really isnāt enough for a relationship, and thatās absolutely true, if weāre defining beauty as superficial characteristics. The beauty of Louis, to me, is in his character, and the emotions of the scene.Ā
Iāve written a lot about what draws me, as a reader, to love Louis, probably the best stuff is in my #we appreciate and love louis in this house tag. But Iāll try not to go overboard and answer you here, anyway!
I think the deal with describing Louis as *~SO beautiful~* is partly that, hey, itās fun to do, like having a favorite flower, and AR takes the opportunity to remind us of it, and put the camera on him in a scene, so we know heās present. It also serves a purpose, we usually get at least a scrap of context about him and/or the scene:
āI glared at him, at the sharp graceful angles of his imperturbable face, [ā¦] his wide-set eyes, with their fine rich black lashes. How perfect the tender indentation of his upper lip.ā-Lestat, The Tale of the Body Thief
^Letās take this line and unpack it a little:
Lestat glares at Louis. ā> Lestat is clearly pissed.
Louisā imperturbable face ā> Louis is not scared of Lestat being pissed.
And then Lestat lavishes this extra description on him, appreciatively. Attention on the lip area, now weāre picturing him pointedly staring there, which might precede a kiss, so we can infer that Lestat desperately wants to kiss him, probably. What I get from all that is the exquisite tension of Lestat wanting someone he canāt have, someone he treasures and wants even MORE bc of the difficulty.Ā
Itās the tension of Lestat and other characters pining for Louis that AR wrings every drop out for us, sheās showing us how helpless these other characters are that they can only try to capture Louis with descriptions since he defies being owned by anyone. Unrequited love is a powerful thing.
Bringing these back, in case anyone else missed them and want to indulge in some Louis praise/discussion:
We can find ourselves slipping into the characters we love and identify with. Some ppl find Lestat relatable in his lust for life, self-centeredness, refusal to quit, constantly screwing up and berating himself in the narrative (but rarely being able to outright apologize to those he hurts)⦠a flawed character for sure but an inspiring one.
I think some ppl who relate to Louis and feel less flashy, less glamorous, thereās smtg very appealing about how such a character could be so idolized by the more flashy and glamorous one. What could such a *rockstar* like Lestat find attractive in Louis?? You said yourself Louis is a sad sack. And yes, beauty is not enough to keep a relationship going. But, as I mentioned above, Louisā beauty is often described in a context that charges it with the emotions of the scene. At least to my reading, thereās more conveyed than just eye color.
Still, why wouldnāt Lestat demand someone who was more like himself?
But hereās the thing I think a lot of ppl miss when theyāve only seen movie!IWTV, or only read a few of the books.Ā
I personally believe that Lestat sees in LouisĀ a similarly wounded soul with a lust for life. At their core, neither really want to die. Louis kept getting into fights with ppl bc he couldnāt kill himself as a mortal. Lestat has stubbornly refused to die his entire life and has had plenty of reason to want death. Theyāve both almost killed themselves and been brought back. Thereās a similar torment in them dealing with their natures.
As an anon put it so eloquently: āI think ppl forget that Louis is just as passionate and vengeful as Lestat, itās just that he isnāt as vocal or showy about it. Heās more intimate and intense.ā
The way they communicate/express themselves, and the way they practice self-care is vastly different. Lestat builds up his beautiful shell with retail therapy, redecorating and refurbishing his dwellings, and attending all kinds of shows and making elaborate plans with his kills, just spoiling himself silly. Always down for indulging his senses. Heās chasing new experiences, learning the new slang, trying to keep himself in the latest fashions. Novelty.
Louis prefers his nights at home, low-drama, in his own creature comforts, with his books and poetry to escape into. We donāt know much of what heās read but he seems to want to spend eternity reading. What is reading? Even if itās nonfiction, itās learning, being told a story, being more informed. Itās novelty, too. Escapism through the imagination.
And their personalities seem to complement each other. Lestatās lust for adventure spices up Louisā otherwise too-calm existence. Louisā calm and dignified manner brings Lestat back down to earth when he gets too untethered. Their bickering is bc they care for each other, can see beneath each otherās disguises. Louis sees the frightened boy inside the frustration that makes Lestat lash out and attack first. Lestat sees the potential in Louis of someone who, if he could get over his inhibitions, could experience so much more in his life.
āā¦but if I did have to choose, the companion would be Louis. My longest most enduring friendship and love affair in this world was with Louis. And though his limitations can be maddening, they can also be as inspiring to me as his virtues⦠the best choices we make are not always the wise choices. Sometimes they are intensely emotional choices. And Iāve always had a deep Romantic respect for emotion. My love for Louis transcends wisdom. And I may need the pain as much as the consolation that an eternal relationship with Louis would involve.ā
^This is one of those moments I talk about where I feel like she recaptures the old magic, taps into the vein (pun intended) that got us all addicted to this series in the first place. Why I canāt just discard the crackier later books. Sheās not all that specific here, but itās believable. At least, to me. Lestat admits that Louisā limitations (and this can be so many things, things Lestat disagrees with him about as well as things Louis refuses to do) can be maddening, and inspiring.Ā
And he admits that his love for Louis transcends wisdom. That may be a cop-out answer, but Iāve felt that kind of love in my life. Inexplicably bound to someone, despite the math of the personalities not seeming to mesh.Ā
Love works in mysterious ways. Even for beautiful sad sacks and the arrogant bastards who love them ā¤
Adam Driver is extremely gorgeous and so talented, I really enjoyed him in SW and Iām looking forward to whatever he does in his career!
It took me a moment to make the connection between Adam Driver and Armand, bc the book version of Armand is very different from the IWTV movie version!
In the movie version of IWTV, Armand is played by Antonio Banderas, a tall, dark, masculine vampire of the Old World. I can see where you might see some Adam Driver resemblance thereā¦
However! In the books, Armand was turned at 17 yrs old*, he has auburn hair, and he is supposed to look more angelic (and androgynous enough to pass for being female, as he says in TVA).Ā
*āI was perhaps seventeen years old when Marius made me into a vampire. I had stopped growing by that time. For a year, Iād been five feet six inches.ā – TVA.
This has been a bigger point of contention in VC fandom than the āDumbledore said calmlyā/āDIDJA PUT YA NAME IN THE GOBLET AFIRE??ā issue in Harry Potter fandom š Why Antonio and not smne resembling the canon character? Youāll find some answers in my #defending Antonio tag.
To my mind, I would love to have Adam as a vampire in our series. If we cast him as a more canon-compliant character, I would suggest Santino, Santiago, or even Nicolas de Lenfent. But we probably canāt afford him now *cries*