So then.. Vampires can experience sexual actions? I’ve always been confused about that part. Vampires can’t have children but can they still have sex? And feel the same way as humans?

darknessmolten:

vagabonddaniel:

devilsfool:

//Okay, this needs to be answered OOC, because my Lestat would have to answer with my personal headcanon, b/c I think Mater is full of shit. 

According to canon and Anne/Mater, her vampires do not experience sexual pleasure with their genitals. In QotD, Lestat calls his cock useless, claiming that it can no longer do what it was intended to, or some shit like that (I have a migraine and I’m not looking it up, but I’m sure @i-want-my-iwtv could give you the precise quote because she’s amazing). 

Anne of course (typically) reneges on this when she wrote PL, creates a bunch of faulty science bullshit so that Lestat can jizz for science and create Viktor. 

In fanon, it’s generally accepted that, yes, the vampires can have sex. There is some variation on this depending on what fic you are reading or who you are RPing with–but it’s generally agreed upon that vampire sex is 100% about the blood and sensuality, and that, even if they aren’t going to orgasm in the traditional sense, they are still going to get something pretty intense out of the entire situation. 

There are some pretty amazing fics out there that make sense of all this, but since Vampire Chronicles fan fiction doesn’t technically exist, I can’t help you find them. 

For my purposes, sure, Lestat has sex. Plenty of it. And it’s primarily about the blood. But there is also fun to be had with their bodies, and that’s more fun to write anyway, so there you have it. 

ooc: ALL OF THIS. Also like… you can’t tell me that vampire sensation is 10x that of a human and expect me to believe that sensual touch does nothing for them. Maybe they can’t reach climax but that’s what the blood is for. Doesn’t mean sexual acts don’t work as amazing foreplay. 

ooc: I’ve written about this before at some point I believe, but that’s very much my take on it too. Especially this: ‘you can’t tell me that vampire sensation is 10x that of a human and expect me to believe that sensual touch does nothing for them’

Hell yeah.

^Basically agreed with all 3 ppl here. Respect #Your headcanon may vary on this topic.

Canon doesn’t directly take on whether their dicks even work until the 3rd book,  when Lestat says:

“I studied my reflection … and the organ, the organ we don’t need, poised as if ready for what it would never again know how to do or want to do, marble, a Priapus at a gate” – Lestat, Queen of the Damned

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So I’ve discussed this topic at length in my tags for it: #asexuality, #asexual, #sex, #sexuality, #lets talk about sex. So check those out for more discussion on it. Ricean vampires still do feel sexual lust, it’s channeled through the experience of taking/sharing blood, and other sensually physical things.

In fanon there is a wide spectrum of whether they can have penetrative sex, some even speculate that their um… output… would be very bloody.

TL;DR: It all depends on your idea of what sex is. There are human couples who are unable (or do not want) to experience penetrative sex, and they can still be intimate with each other in other ways.

Claudia asks Louis about sex in IWTV, and he replies that it “‘…was something hurried…And… it was seldom savored… something acute that was quickly lost. I think that it was the pale shadow of killing.’”

He could have been lying a little to downplay it, so that she wouldn’t feel as bad for missing out on smtg she would never be able to experience, or maybe bc he truly felt that the experience of killing supercedes mortal intercourse. We don’t know bc #unreliable narrator


ALL THAT SAID, if you prefer to take AR’s word as the gospel for canon, she has been definitive about it:

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I think that reproductive obstacle (vampires are undead, they cannot carry a growing baby inside of dead flesh) is why Anne Rice made the choice that they could BE sexual, but not in a reproductive way.

The Three Laws of Fandom

darthstitch:

notreadytosettle:

ozhawkauthor:

If you wish to take part in any fandom, you need to accept and respect these three laws.

If you aren’t able to do that, then you need to realise that your actions are making fandom unsafe for creators. That you are stifling creativity.

Like vaccination, fandom only works if everyone respects these rules. Creators need to be free to make their fanart, fanfics and all other content without fear of being harassed or concern-trolled for their creative choices, no matter whether you happen to like that content or not.

The First Law of Fandom

Don’t Like; Don’t Read (DL;DR)

It is up to you what you see online. It is not anyone else’s place to tell you what you should or should not consume in terms of content; it is not up to anyone else to police the internet so that you do not see things you do not like. At the same time, it is not up to YOU to police fandom to protect yourself or anyone else, real or hypothetical.

There are tools out there to help protect you if you have triggers or squicks. Learn to use them, and to take care of your own mental health. If you are consuming fan-made content and you find that you are disliking it – STOP.

The Second Law of Fandom

Your Kink Is Not My Kink (YKINMK)

Simply put, this means that everyone likes different things. It’s not up to you to determine what creators are allowed to create. It’s not up to you to police fandom

If you don’t like something, you can post meta about it or create contrarian content yourself, seek to convert other fans to your way of thinking.  

But you have no right to say to any creator “I do not like this, therefore you should not create it. Nobody should like this. It should not exist.”

It’s not up to you to decide what other people are allowed to like or not like, to create or not to create. That’s censorship. Don’t do it.

The Third Law of Fandom

Ship And Let Ship (SALS)

Much (though not all) fandom is about shipping. There are as many possible ships as there are fans, maybe more. You may have an OTP (One True Pairing), you may have a NOTP, that pairing that makes you want to barf at the very thought of its existence.

It’s not up to you to police ships or to determine what other people are allowed to ship. Just because you find that one particular ship problematic or disgusting, does not mean that other people are not allowed to explore its possibilities in their fanworks.

You are free to create contrarian content, to write meta about why a particular ship is repulsive, to discuss it endlessly on your private blog with like-minded persons.

It is not appropriate to harass creators about their ships, it is not appropriate to demand they do not create any more fanworks about those ships, or that they create fanwork only in a manner that you deem appropriate.

These three laws add up to the following:

You are not paying for fanworks content, and you have no rights to it other than to choose to consume it, or not consume it. If you do choose to consume it, do not then attack the creator if it wasn’t to your taste. That’s the height of bad manners.

Be courteous in fandom. It makes the whole experience better for all of us.

Yup.

Slaps onto blog.

THIS

annabellioncourt:

handypolymath:

mominmudville:

soyeahso:

There are a couple of things about current shipping culture that confuse me.  

1. The focus on whether or not a pairing will become canon as a reason people should ship something or not.  Do you not understand what the “transformative” part of “transformative works” means?”

2. This idea that saying “I ship that” means “I think that, as presented in canon,this is a perfect, healthy relationship that everyone should model their relationship after.” 

Sometimes shipping something does mean that.  Sometimes shipping something means “Person A is a trash bag who doesn’t deserve person B but I would love to explore how Person A might grow to deserve Person B.” Sometimes it means “I want these characters to live together forever in a conflict free domestic AU.”  Sometimes it means “I want Person A to forever pine after Person B.  Nothing is beautiful and everything hurts.”  And sometimes it just means you like their faces and want to see Person A and Person B bone in various configurations and universes. 

Listen to your parents, kids.

This really should be one of a handful of Public Service Announcements randomly and chronically inserted into one’s dash.

  • its not always about sex
  • condoning a ship or actions in a show doesn’t mean that you’re committing to say that’s a healthy relationship?
  • you cannot/should not petition the writers of a show with your opinion to change the show purely to satisfy your ship.
  • shipping something doesn’t give you the right to shit on other people’s ships??? if you’re shipping a typical relationship and someone else wants something dark and awful just to explore those mental dimensions then fucking let them
  • #Ship and let ship.

    So what do the VC vampires do for Thanksgiving and Christmas?

    (You might want to check @vcsecretgifts for more VC holiday goodness!)

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     [fanart by Dany&Dany]

    They gather together and be sociable! There’s an ugly sweater contest, just to irritate Lestat (it really does!). Daniel usually wins bc he is willing to spend hours hunting second-hand stores to find the VERY WORST, and most authentic, tacky holiday sweaters. In fact Louis lets him choose. Without fail, Lestat has to rush Louis home to tear off such an abomination.

    #Your headcanon may vary on this, but Thanksgiving, being an American holiday, is probably ignored by most of the coven. Lestat has thrown feasts for small groups of gangsters bad guys, however, just to really enjoy drenching them in the finest alcohol so he can sample whatever’s in fashion. Sometimes Armand, Daniel, Marius, or others, join him in this. 

    Marius, too, throws feasts for mortals, but when he’s hosting, they’re as safe from him as the most of the Palazzo boys were; he loves the chance to argue things like politics and the current trends in cinema with collegiate people.

    Xmas, too, may not be celebrated by all the vampires since most are secular in their beliefs, but they all like to do some measure of decorating for it. Lestat goes all out, with the biggest tree he can fit in the Rue Royale, layering it with ornaments and tons of tinsel (the poor cleaning crew are still finding bits of it 6 months later), and Louis has become very enamored with LED string lights. The fountain and plants in the courtyard is thoroughly threaded with lights in several pastel colors by December 1. 

    There was one year that Lestat felt required to top the tree with a most unusual ornament

    i’m reading the vampire armand and oh my god i just read what armand did to claudia and i’m shocked and horrified and oh my god please help me process this

    This should help a bit:

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    [The most important thing, according to @vampiredevelopment]

    Shocked and horrified would be the appropriate reactions to that scene IF we believe him about that. VC is all about unreliable narrators. Armand is telling his story to David here, trying to intimidate him. Did Armand really do it? We don’t know. If he did, could Louis really forgive him? EVER? 

    … or, was Armand really trying to help her, as he claimed? “I tried to grant her fondest wish, that she should have the body of a woman, a fit shape for the tragic dimension of her soul.” -The Vampire Armand. 

    Who knows?! #Your headcanon may vary.

    In related info, I have only ever seen one fanart of this scene… beware, once seen cannot be unseen, but I love it bc it truly captures the moment:

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    [VC Surgery by bsse2004]

    What do you think of the choice of Tom Cruise as Lestat? When the movie came out I read A.R. wasn’t happy and I was surprised, but then I read the books and I agreed with her. I love the movie and he acted very well, but I can’t see him fit as Lestat.

    skarrin:

    sablerabbit:

    skarrin:

    gothiccharmschool:

    i-want-my-iwtv:

    You come into mY HOUSE-!

    *siiiigh* Are we still talking about Tom Cruise’s casting? I recognize that I’ve been in this fandom since before the movie came out (so it’s been officially 21 years of hearing this question), and that there are new ppl to fandom every year with their own headcanon of the character. 

    When anyone comes across AR’s very strong initial negative opinion of Mr. Cruise they may even agree with her at first. However! She published another opinion after seeing his performance (in the test reel even, thanx @annabellioncourt!) in which she praises him to high heaven even more strenuously! She still occasionally mentions him on her FB with affection, even now.

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    So as I said. AR changed her opinion:

    “ON TOM CRUISE: From the moment he appeared Tom was Lestat for me. He has the immense physical and moral presence; he was defiant and yet never without conscience; he was beautiful beyond description  yet compelled to do cruel things. The sheer beauty of Tom was dazzling, but the polish of his acting, his flawless plunge into the Lestat persona, his ability to speak rather boldly poetic lines, and speak them with seeming ease and conviction were exhilarating and uplifting. The guy is great.“

    And I agree with her 110% *u*

    You can find some other options for casting Lestat in my #VC casting tag, but what I think it all boils down to is that an actor’s job is to ACT. Since a fictional character exists in our imagination, there is no perfect physical casting for him EVER. Not even illustrated in graphic novels or animation. We can all agree that there are certain physical characteristics he should have, like having blond hair, but there are so many shades of blond. Even then, that one thing we can all agree is necessary for Lestat was TOTALLY DISCARDED in the Queen of the Damned movie sooo… *shrugs*

    It’s up to the director to choose who they want to act out the story they want to tell. 

    Bonus: Neil Jordan, #certified vampire therapist

    I, too, was originally horrified at the casting of Cruise as Lestat. And then I saw the movie. 

    I still don’t like the Wee Madman – but as Lestat, he’s PERFECT. (It still should’ve been Rutger, or Sting – but it’s very, very good as the Wee One.)

    Ooo!  Sting as Lestat!  Tasty, and a rock star (which, let’s face it, sums up Lestat).

    A.R. said that the original DESCRIPTIVE inspiration for Lestat was Rutger Hauer – huge, brooding, athletic, physically imposing, very blond. This was for “Interview”-era.

    by the time “The Vampire Lestat” came out, he’d gotten too old for her mind palace of inspiration, and Lestat turned into a rock star that should’ve been played by a rockstar – still tall, but lithe, beguiling, Sting-ish. 🙂

    That’s why Sting wrote “Moon over Bourbon Street”. that’s him talking about wanting to BE Lestat for Anne.

    But the Wee Madman (I call him that because Tom Cruise is NOT TALL. And neither am I, and I also am quite mad) was VERY GOOD as Lestat. I agree with A.R. – started off loathing the idea, ended up loving it.

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    Well to be fair they did give Tom heels to help him with his height. According to IWTV costume designer Sandy Powell:

    “Tom Cruise was lovely to me, but there were many discussions about his height in relation to Brad Pitt’s. There are always vanity concerns.“

    But YES, Rutger Hauer was AR’s first headcanon for Lestat, and that was respected in the VC graphic novels of the 80’s/90’s:

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    It’s fine if you don’t like romantic and sexual relationships in fandoms but there’s no need to blast others for having them.

    vagabonddaniel-recordedarchives:

    ooc: But… But I do like romantic and sexual relationships in fandoms. I usually write Armand/Daniel as romantic and sexual. I have many other ships that I love reading or writing in romantic and sexual ways. I have nothing against them at all. I certainly didn’t “blast” anyone for having them or liking them. I merely suggested that people stop holding up romance/sexual encounters over everything else as if they are the only sorts of relationships or encounters that matter.

    Romance is important. But not important to all people because some people are aromantic. Sexual relationships are important to a lot of people. But not to all people because some people are asexual and some fall somewhere on the gray-ace scale. (And that doesn’t mean an aromantic asexual can’t enjoy reading or writing those things, as well. Just that romance and sex aren’t a priority for everyone.)

    Fandom tends to put romantic ships on pedestal above all others. Probably because fandom on tumblr especially is obsessed with Shipping. People Ship It and if you don’t Ship It, you’re a “hater.” But not everything has to be a romantic ship. 

    Fandom also tends to take non-romantic and non-sexual canon relationships and turn them into something romantic, and that’s awesome. Fandom is all about taking canon and exploring all of its possibilities. If people want to write Jace Wayland and Simon Lewis as romantic, well, show me the slash fic! I am there. But I don’t want people holding up Jace/Simon as though it’s better as a romantic ship than a bromance or friendship, because platonic friendships and familial relationships and non-romantic love are important, too. And while it’s fun to read and write smut and sexytimes and UST and all forms of sexual tension, it’s also fun to explore other aspects and dynamics and levels of love/friendship/frenemies beyond messing up the sheets. 

    That’s all I was saying. 

    ^Beautifully answered.

    I hate to be “that” person, but how do you pronounce: Amadeo, Khayman, Makare, Maharet, and Enkil?

    No, that’s not being “that” person at all! What IS being “that” person is being all overly offended at someone else’s pronunciation, so before I answer I’ll just remind y’all that these are fictional characters, there’s no right way to pronounce them, I don’t care if you have a master’s degree in Etymology and/or Linguistics, named your pet/child after them, have a friend with the same name, even if you are the creator of the series, anyone is free to pronounce these names however they want.

    Amadeo- “ah-mah-DAY-oh” or “ah-MAD-eeyo,” I sorta use both.

    Khayman- “Kay-men”

    Mekare- “mee-CARE” or “mek-ARRAY,” personally, I prefer the first option.

    Maharet-  “maha-RET” (emphasis on the last syllable like “Margaret”), or “MAH-harret” (emphasis on the first syllable), or “muh-HAH-ret” (emphasis on the second syllable). Personally, I prefer the last option.

    (redhairedtwin may disagree with me on the twins, she can add her two cents if she wants to do so.)

    BONUS… hit the jump.

    Marius- “MAH-reeyus” or “MARE-eeyus,” I tend to prefer the second option.

    Lestat- Despite AR’s explicit instructions that it be pronounced “Less-DOT” with emphasis on the second syllable, I can’t do that, it sounds too clunky for me. I think it’s more like “Less-TAT,” second syllable like “cat,” or “Less-STAH,” as in “star” without the “r.“ I prefer the “cat” version. More discussion on his name here.

    Louis- “Loo-WEE.” takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever helpfully recorded the pronunciation of his name in full.

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    That is bizarre! Anyway, there IS a Denis in the book. Also I think Denis was too young to be Armand? Armand was supposed to be around 17, and Denis looks more like 13-14 to me. 

    Not sure exactly whose theory it was (mine? whiningforcenturies? Both probably), but someone suggested that Antonio was actually Santino posing as Armand. Hence the not-teenage, not-red-head, not-cherubic appearance. 

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    I have a whole pile of theories about Antonio’s casting here: #Defending Antonio.

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    ^Lookit this loyal cutie omg ❤ This is kind of an Armand expression, the lack of surprise in an under-pressure situation, the stiff upper-lip. 

    That carriage is really rockin’. Don’t come a’knockin’. GDI Armand it’s wildly unfair to take advantage of a man who is turned on by the arson he’s just committed!


    There were some comments on my post about Denis and basically, my feeling is that Denis was treated very well. He had a nice normal bed (looks like queen sized!), yes, he was locked in there, but who’s to say that the bars holding him in weren’t really meant to keep the other vampires in the Theatre OUT? It would be easy enough to get to Armand by torturing his pet; he needed protection.

    We don’t know Denis’ backstory. Maybe Armand rescued him from a worse life, as Armand had been rescued by Marius. Maybe Armand was “paying it forward.”

    We know Armand didn’t really click with any of the vampires in the Theatre. So why not have a little mortal companion who might love him unconditionally? We keep cats and dogs for similar reasons. We keep chickens and rabbits as pets knowing that we’re well some of us are capable of eating them someday. A human is another level of domesticated pet for a vampire!

    Now the fact that Armand killed Denis does seem cruel at first glance, but it was probably because Armand had found what he longed for in Louis, a vampire companion. Hanging out with vampires for too long can distort your reality (just ask Daniel Molloy, lol) so Armand killing Denis was probably a mercy. What would have happened with that kid otherwise? Would he have tried to find Armand? Would he have killed himself anyway? If Armand didn’t want to turn or keep him, maybe Denis asked for death. 

    These things are worth considering before you judge Armand as being cruel to Denis.