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ooc: Ok can you clear this one up for me? Did Santino ever love Armand? As a brother or family member type of thing? Or was Santino just his wicked teacher?
ooc. Well, headcanons may vary of course, but the way I read the character and the relationship he had with Armand… Yes, Santino loved him. And I will even say that he loved him very deeply. The love was likely not a very considerate kind but it was real.
I hinge this a) on Santino actively assuring Marius that he did love Armand (in TVA) and b) Santino’s exhibiting very fatherly and sympathetic behavior towards Armand.
Santino is depicted as a very honest and very caring character. His honesty is attested by Marius (B&G) and Santino himself claims to hate evil and to suffer from the way he has to live in the cult. Further: He actually cries when he visits Armand in his cell because the torture was so cruel and he couldn’t stand it (TVA). He is evidently very taken with Armand and compliments him even when there is nothing to gain from it. (also TVA) Because of all of this I say he loved him like a son, or else a protégé.
What he feels for him nowadays is more difficult, I think.
OOC: I totally hear what you’re saying but Santino’s fucked up cruelty in the past done unto Marius, Palazzo Boys and Armand were so horrific, I just have a hard time picturing how you describe him. How can I improve my perspective of Santino?
ooc. I genuinely can’t help you there. If you don’t want to view him in a sympathetic light then nothing I say will change that. Mind you, I started out hating him, too. It took me a while to warm up to him. (cut for length)
This is really good !! I’m always a slut for nuanced understandings of complex characters 😍
^YES! I really enjoyed this response from @desanctii.
Perspective and context can allow us to view a character in a sympathetic light, but if you don’t want to do so, that’s fine, too. Both approaches are equal, we all have our own interpretations of canon.
you’re one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan
designed and directed by his red right hand!
Hello there :) I was scrolling through the Nicolas de Lenfent tag and I read again a post with theories :3 With PL we now know the identity of the mysterious musician but I wonder – ok hope, keep fingers crossed – might Anne in all her wisdom broach the subject of Nicolas and maybe, just maybe bring him back in cannon? At this point, I think he would make for some interesting plot for the next books. If Antoine showed, we might still hope Nicolas is somewhere out there.
[Pretty sure @ioananix is referring to the post @devilsviolinist wrote on Nicki survival theories here. It’s good! Check it out.]
Yep, AR has brought back a bunch of formerly-assumed-to-be-dead characters in PL, so it’s a real possibility!
…However, is this always a good thing? I still don’t like the way the mysterious musician from IWTV was brought back. @antoineandthepiano makes a valiant effort to make that character more likable in their RP of him, but in canon, I don’t feel like this character being brought back adds much to the story or changes the dynamic of the coven much. More thoughts on him under the cut bc I want to get to Nicolas.
[^X by @vampiredevelopment]
Bring Nicolas back and we might have interesting plot there! So many questions… Did he really intend to kill himself?
Did he intend to fake his suicide? Or did someone try to kill him? Did Eleni know? Was she in on any of this? Is there any possibility of civility between Nicolas and Lestat? The answers to those questions could lead to some great arguments, some great opening of old wounds, some healing, idk, ACTION. FEELS. CATFIGHTS.
There are a bunch of characters brought back in PL so it wouldn’t totally surprise me if AR brought Nicolas back in PLROA… The ones she’s brought back have hardly caused any ripple of conflict in the coven, and some ppl like fluff and peace, maybe some ppl are glad to have their characters back in any form, but it feels like unearned fluff and peace. I’d almost prefer that she leaves characters out rather than bring back such watered-down versions of them.
I feel like that musician character was a draft of Nicolas, and AR forgot about him until PL, or maybe Lestat was so embarrassed by that whole situation that’s why he never mentions him in canon until PL (which, btw, the series was allegedly over with Blood Canticle). “Antoine” comes in all meek and mild, is accepted with hardly any comment, and everything’s peaceful! There’s no real adjustment needed, they’re all fine with the fact that, idk, he tried to kill Louis (and Claudia!) some 150 yrs ago? Too much water under that bridge.
There was a fanfic that suggested the musician vampire rescued Lestat from the swamp and helped him heal well enough so that he could to steal the Dark Gift from him, that would have been a lot more heartbreaking! Taking advantage of Lestat in his weakened condition like that ;A;
// Hello Lovely! I’ve been reading Blackwood Farm (I picked it up for 3 dollars at a local second-hand book/clothing store) and I am absolutely LOVING it so far. Lestat is pretty funny in it, and I am only like 5 chapters in. Please don’t tell me that it’s considered a dud book because I am gushing over every word lol. #QuinnClub.
I love that
second-hand bookstores exist so good ppl like you can rescue a book from the landfill! ❤ IDK if yours is a hardcover but I love snagging those for a tiny fraction of the price originally printed on their jackets. Some of those prices seemed really insane, y’know? Unnecessarily expensive well i’m not in publishing so maybe those were fair prices then but they felt really unnecessarily expensive on my wallet at the time.
[^X by @vampiredevelopment]
I skimmed the entirety of BF just now, I’m reminded that it’s one of the first of the “I mean, this family runs into problems and it’s ‘Oh, let’s have Lestat [bleep] our way out of it’ ” VC stories. It’s not Lestat’s problem, he’s chaperoning this adventure, and as much as AR tries to get him invested in it, I never really believed her that he would care, so it feels very AU to me. Even though I don’t like it, I don’t consider BF a “dud book,” bc it’s still a good vampire/ghost/supernatural story as-is ;]
So BF is not one of my faves, I’ve only read it once, but I know there are alot of ppl who enjoyed it, there are ppl clamoring for more Quinn on AR’s FB page! I bet they’d join your #QuinnClub.
// I am only coming back from my hiatus to say….IS AR FUCKING HIGH? WTF IS THIS NEW MERMAID BOOK?!?!?!
//Lestat has been on a bad acid trip since Memnoch obviously.
// EVERYONE IS HIGH @i-want-my-iwtv
getting high might improve things tbh
Do you have any good L/L fanfics to recommend me? Or any post-PL fanfics? ( Also, I LOVE your blog <3 )
Ah yes compliments are always welcome! Thank u *hugs*
Fanfic?? there’s no such thing as VC fanfic… pfffft. What are you crazy honestly??!
^Lestat is laughing bc he knows I is sarcastic.
[^by Dany&Dany]
The thing about VC fanfic is that we still have to be sort of careful about sharing it bc of reasons. Even so, I feel compelled to give you something. And again, I try not to play favorites *sigh* but in the case of fanfic, I can be a little more lenient and rec a few things out ^_____^ The following content is slightly revised from how I answered an Ask seeking fanfic awhile back.
I have to recc my own stuff first (which is mostly L/L) on AO3 under Burnadette_dpdL. De Motu Cordis
has one of the highest hit counts. L/L lovey fluff *blushes* so maybe start there, but A Precious Material is probably one of my own faves.
Archive of Our Own (aka AO3) has a mission statement about protecting fanworks from copyright infringement arguments, so I feel pretty safe recc’ing stuff that’s on there but dL anything you like, just in case, bc authors also sometimes remove their works w/o warning.
Hit the jump for some reccs
- Carriage Ride was a collab I did w/ 3 other authors, and is very short but sweet L/L.
- Gulfport: A British Petroleum Fanfic (Part One) by hw_campbell_jnr – There are 2 parts and it’s incomplete but this is devastatingly beautiful long!fic. Hipster modern Lestat and Louis, both going by pseudonyms, politics woven in, it’s just too good. It annoys me how good it is. I am annoyed. I would be less annoyed if it were COMPLETED *forcibly nudges the author*
- The Grim Brothers by Rebness – incomplete but it’s a fun little werewolf AU! I hope the author picks it up again someday *forcibly nudges the author*
- The Sexting Caper by Gairid – because sexting!
- The Haunting by Gairid – A haunted object.
- Gairid also has some excellent long!fics and collaborations with Leshanthat are worth checking out, too many to list here.
- One Night in New Orleans by iskra667 – L/L dubcon angst, fluff, I just really enjoy it.
There are also drabbles and links to fic of L/L and/or other characters in my
#fanfic, and #damn you and your perfect headcanon perfection tags here. There’s also some fine stuff in the @vcsecretgifts archive.
For post-PL, you might ask @antoineandthepiano, @roselioncourt, and @viktor-de-lioncourt who are RPers set post-PL.
What do you think of The Prince Lestat? I’ve read really mixed reviews bordering on it being just plain awful. Specifically characters like Viktor
It’s not my fave VC, but not my least fave VC, either. It’s growing on me.
As I answered in a recent Ask re: Merrick, idk, I would always advocate reading the books, as cracky as some of them can be, bc there are always moments that are really great! Single lines worth digging up, some phrasing that hits you #Right in the Feels. Don’t you want to know what happens? You don’t have to agree with it but the ride is always at the very least stimulating… you can always just skim it for plot points if reading it is too much of an investment.
As to whether it’s “just plain awful”? I wouldn’t agree w/ that, bc there are some gems in it that you can’t get anywhere else. At the risk of being redundant, my short answer: I think AR can still capture that old quality we all fell in love with, albeit in slivers. Which is why I can’t disregard any of the books entirely. It’s still hard for me to accept Prince Lestat as canon, I might never, but there are moments and lines of dialogue in it that are SO VERY GOOD. Moments where I’ve had to pause and smile, because it was as if the old Lestat, from IWTV or TVL, actually graced us with his presence, if only for a moment.
… Also I admit I very much dig Lestat’s new accessory ;D
It also has some worthwhile development re: the spirit that basically created vampires in the first place.
Re: Viktor & Co.
[Fanart of some of the main chars in PL by @remarried/@nightislandofficial]
For specifics/headcanons about Viktor, go to @viktor-de-lioncourt (Viktor RPer
who uses Jordan Sörbom as a FC), @antoineandthepiano, and @roselioncourt, all of whom RP new characters from PL (technically Antoine was in IWTV but he has a larger presence in PL so I count him as new) and care way more about them than I am capable of currently.
I didn’t find many of the new characters very engaging, I would bet we’ll get more depth on them in later books, and/or they were created for what I like to call “canon-fodder” so that AR has a bunch of chars to kill in the next book(s), since she can’t kill the core group we all love so much! She tried to kill a few of them and had to bring them back ;]
Spoilers and probably unpopular opinions re: Viktor under the cut. And really I prefer not to make unpopular opinions but sometimes I gotta.
I find Viktor to be a kind of watered-down Twilight knockoff. He seemed to be an answer for all the POTP who had pestered AR for years to give Lestat a biological son… and the romance between him and Rose came off as pretty forced to me, again, a YA couple like in Twilight for fanservice. Not that YA can’t be well done, just that I didn’t really buy AR’s stab at it. Other ppl may have and they are welcome to ship their hearts out!
So, I’ve actually stopped reading the VC after “The Vampire Armand” (of course I picked up again at “Prince Lestat) – what do you think, should I read “Merrick”?
Yes, READ THE BOOK!
Idk, I would always advocate reading the books, as cracky as some of them can be, bc there are always moments that are really great! Single lines worth digging up, some phrasing that hits you #Right in the Feels. Don’t you want to know what happened to Louis, David, and Lestat, before PL? You don’t have to agree with it but the ride is always at the very least stimulating… you can always just skim it for plot points if reading it is too much of an investment.
[^bookwormmykitty from here X]
If you like Louis, especially yes! This is a story he gets a starring role in. It’s cracky but heartbreaking, and it changes the dynamics of the relationship between Louis and David, and between Louis and Lestat, and also there’s a strong FEMALE character?! Who is NOT a Mary Sue (ok she has some Mary Sue elements but whatever I liked her)? Woah.
It also changes Louis physically, gives him the powers we see him use in PL, and it also allows him to experience a new level of intimacy with Lestat (and others potentially) that he refused to have before. It changes him emotionally, but we don’t get too deep into the specifics on that, but I think we’re starting to see those effects in PL.
My main issue with it is that it would have been SO MUCH MORE fun from Merrick’s (or Louis’!) own POV, rather than David’s. David was largely a third wheel and I didn’t really care about his youth in the jungles. More interested in the voodoo that Merrick could do, and especially how she used it on Louis ;A; <—Hopefully not really spoiling anything there bc I’m being really general in that statement.
[^Melodie Monrose as Merrick and Jackson Rado as Louis de Pointe du Lac]
antoineandthepiano made this lovely aesthetic pic set and description about Merrick, but there ARE spoilers there, FYI. antoineandthepiano’s description is gr9 tho and worth being spoiled for. YOU MAKE THAT CHOICE YERSELF THO.
I don’t remember if Merrick spoils any other major plot points from books that come before it, I don’t think so. I recall it as being almost a standalone novel.
“Armand: Three Part Series – ‘What’s in a name?’
- Part 2 AND 3 – Amadeo vs Armand
**To read and view images for Part 1 – click here. With a contribution by @ourbotticelliangel .
What’s in a name? A lot when we’re talking about Armand from The Vampire Chronicles. In The Vampire Armand, Armand breaks down his life for you. However I like to break down his novel/life into 3 parts according to his given names:
- Andrei (Given by his Father: Ivan)
- Amadeo (Given to him by his Master: Marius)
- Armand (Given to him by his fellow Coven member aka Child Of Darkness: Allesandra)
Instead of rambling on here is a concise summary of Amadeo vs. Armand – click here. Thank you to @faceofabotticelliangel .
I just don’t think I could write anything that could do Armand justice after reading @faceofabotticelliangel ‘s post.
Enjoy the photo-set!
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