Those sound like a lot of really positive changes. I can start sending you questions when I think of them–my main topic of contemplation is what would be the science behind burning in the sun? Prince Lestat missed a huge opportunity to answer a lot of questions and if you want me to, I can send you all of my questions regarding Anne Rice’s vampires and the traits of vampires in general. Sorry for not being more active!

shroudsinvenice:

merciful-death:

shroudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

thinkingnonsensically:

askavampirologist-blog:

Well, I can not answer questions in the book about Anne Rice’s vampires, as that is copyrighted stuff right there, but you are more than welcome to ask me anything you want. Though I am not an expert in Anne Rice’s vampires. If you want to talk to an expert, I would turn you towards i-want-my-iwtv

And as for the science behind burning in the sun, well, the first vampire to actually be effected by the sunlight to the point of death was Count Orlok in Nosferatu. The reason he disappears in the sun was to avoid copyright infringement on the ending of Dracula. So historically speaking, there is no lore to suggest that vampires would actually burn in the sun. In Dracula his powers were weakened but he did not burn. I think the main idea that vampires hunted at night is because humans slept at night, which left hours of mystery around what happened in the dark. If someone died in the night, or got sick in the night, they had no clue what caused it. It was much easier to think a creature from beyond the grave did it because the darkness is scary and science was lacking. 

But if we want to say sure, vampires burn in the sun, we have to think “why?” The first reason might be the same reason I burn in the sun. They are pale. Pale people burn in the sun. Another reason could be because they are damned, and as such are not allowed to live in the illumination of God. God created light, after all. And if you think about it, Lucifer is known as the Morning Star, so it makes sense that vampires would have to live under the light of the stars. 

Hope that answers your question for now! I will go into further detail in the book. 

My idea was the vampires in AR’s books.

They say (or seriously imply) that vampire blood is flammable. Also in one of the books the vampires can absorb blood through the skin if they really really need it. That made me question the permeability of their skin—our skin is selectively permeable. Our body can more or less decide what to let in and out. What if their skin was less selective? Still hard to the touch of course but more open to diffusion by osmosis?

What if it had a susceptibility to certain radiation from the sun, which when it went through their skin, ignited their very-flammable blood?

This radiation can be IR, visible, or UV in nature, I haven’t been able to decide yet. UV light vibrates at the highest frequency of the three so it /seems/ more conducive but then UV light is blocked by glass and they could not be burned through a window. IR radiation is felt by humans as heat so that’s another likely candidate.

As you can tell, I like to steer away from religious reasoning. The science behind vampires and other creatures is my favorite thing. 🙂

Thanks though!

^This explanation is interesting.

  • Re: Ricean vampire skin being more/less permeable than ours, well, it is described as having a different texture and sheen so that would make sense.
  • Skin being permeable to absorb blood: blood is absorbed through the skin in movie!IWTV, during Louis’ transformation, and blood is absorbed through the skin in Merrick, during Louis’ other transformation (I think there was a line of dialogue, smtg like, “his whole body is drinking it!”)
  • BUT vampire skin is not permeable to dirt, they’re often described as not able to get all that dirty? Like the filth doesn’t really cling to them. The hardness probably contributes to that.
  • I don’t think window glass would be sufficient to block the destruction of sunlight on vampire flesh; Ricean vampires are always going on about the heavy curtains they use on the windows. It’s a combination of the UV rays and something else in sunlight that’s dangerous to them. Obviously they can be in a lighted room or stage just fine, so it’s not the visible light. Something else in the sunlight acts as a catalyst to burn the flammable flesh and blood.
  • The susceptibility to the radiation from the sun seems lessened by the strength/age of the vampire, Lestat has his little tanning sessions where he can handle a level of burn that others just can’t.

It seems, since Louis is described as tan in Prince Lestat, that Louis has been coerced into joining Lestat on these tanning excursions. So OOC.

I don’t know – maybe his darkened skin is a still-remaining sign of the burning he went through in Merrick? Considering that he was charred to a crisp in that book (he seemed as nearly dead as a vampire can be without actually being dead, and Lestat had to save him by pouring blood into the coffin with him in the first instance, then feeding him), it seems possible that even after being brought back to health and strength by Lestat’s strong blood, he would still show some effects. After Marius was burnt in 1499, his skin was still tanned when Pandora met him in Dresden in the 1600s.

I love the theory of their skin being selectively permeable; it explains a lot in the books…

ooc; See, and I’m inclined to believe shroudsinvenice in regards to Louis. The only issue is, when Lestat revived him with his blood, David described Louis as having super pale skin (which made zero sense). :/

Yeah, it seems like we have a conflict between two rules of vampirism:

1. When they get strong blood it powers them up, which makes them go paler.

2. The tan from being burnt takes aaaaages to die away even for old/strong ones.

And I think Anne Rice probably never sat down and established a chart of effects that shows what trumps what. Which is understandable in a way – it’s not D&D with point values and stuff. But it does sometimes leave us with these weird inconsistencies…

merciful-death, that was what I remembered, too! Without checking the book bc really, canon is not always canon anyway. 

shroudsinvenice: a chart or some consistency with your points would have been favorable. In the absence of such… we can either ignore that Louis was incorrectly described as pale in Merrick (which is just fine by me!)or we can go with your theory that Louis was still dark from burning. 

I prefer your explanation to mine, with Louis happily going arm-in-arm with Lestat to the desert for such superficial reasons!

Gallery

shroudsinvenice:

staceythinx:

Ursula Abresch’s macro photography captures the beautiful things that sometimes go unnoticed because of their small size.

I wonder if this is how the VC vampires see. If so, it would explain a lot. 

~NOW LOOK WITH YOUR VAMPIRE EYES~

VC Phantom of the Opera

shroudsinvenice:

lavinia-de-mortalium:

lavinia-de-mortalium:

shroudsinvenice:

shroudsinvenice:

lavinia-de-mortalium:

Magnus as the Phantom.

Who would be Christine? *thinks*

Okay, so my boyfriend thinks Lestat would be Raoul (dashing hero, bit hot-headed) and Claudia should be Christine… only she’d sing Shirley Temple songs. 

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Claudia as Christine…There’s a scary, yet very fitting, thought.

Should we have Marius as the Phantom? Only he wouldn’t wear a mask – He’d refuse to hide all that beauty.

Alright, wait, in retrospect Claudia as Christine would be kick-ass. There wouldn’t be any of the “Oh, I think I’m in love with the Phantom,” quivering. She’d choose him, kick his ass, and make him her own. Claudia takes no prisoners.

It’s funny you should say that, because my boyfriend just made this photoshop of Louis as the phantom… and of course, Claudia has that moment in IWTV where she says that Louis had to live, rather than Lestat, because he’d be the more controllable of the two…

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shroudsinvenice:

little-miss-moira:

credit to the artist, not sure who?

These things used to drive me insane; I’d be all WHAT THERE’S AN ANIMATION THIS IS A SCREENCAP OF IT WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED?! 

So, SO well done though. 😀

YES initially I had that thought, too. THERE SHOULD BE ANIMATION GDI THERE CERTAINLY SHOULD. OR AT LEAST A FULL GRAPHIC NOVEL FFS.

Fanart by garama, the King of VC fanart. 

Blonde hair jeSuS BLONDE HAIR

i-want-my-iwtv:

benjamin-thedevil:

Blonde hair jeSuS BLONDE HAIR

“What would Christ need have done to make me follow Him like Matthew or Peter? Dress well, to begin with. And have a luxurious head of pampered yellow hair.”

– Louis de Pointe du Lac, Interview with the Vampire

I’ll warm your cold blood xP by Drkav

cloudsinvenice: That’s one of my favourite quotes from IwtV. Such an acknowledgement by Louis of his own faults, and so true of so many of us…

Blonde hair jeSuS BLONDE HAIR

cloudsinvenice:

Nice to see; I wasn’t familiar with the US paperback cover! 

Seems like this book is on everyone’s mind at the moment… either Anne Rice is using her Lestat RP (there’s a phrase I never thought I’d type) to drop hints about connections between Memnoch and Prince Lestat, or it’s all a big coincidence and we’ll sleep easier after the book comes out. 

Can I just bitch about how we have to wait two extra days in the UK? Good. Because this is me, bitching. 

#nostalgia flare-up bc this was the edition I read!

AR’s Lestat RP (omg yes that word has been bandied about and it’s perfect) does seem to be hinting about him an awful lot. Whether he appears or is referenced in Prince Lestat or a later book (since PL is just the beginning of a new veering-off series apparently) is anyone’s guess. 

Avoid tumblr 10/28-whenever you read it, there will probably be spoiler explosion and I may, myself, commit acts of spoilage. 

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

katzenfabrik replied to your post: anonymous said:So, David is an or…

I think the body’s original owner is described as Anglo-Indian, a term that makes me think of the British Raj, though Wikipedia says it’s still in use today.

mickimonster said:

he was either pakistani or indian
the body belonged to the son of indian immigrants [if I am not mistaken. idk, read that book a month ago but not very carefully]

Does anyone remember the first time it’s mentioned? If you don’t mind sending me a quote, just curious. Just can’t find it myself 😛

Some people of mixed English and Indian descent self-describe as Anglo-Indian; I’m thinking of a friend of my mother’s in this case. But that’s not to say that’s what Anne Rice meant in this instance – I’m digging through the text online but no luck finding the quote so far.

However! I did find an academic paper that, at a glance, looks super-relevant: 

Becoming-Other: (Dis)Embodiments of Race in Anne Rice’s Tale of the Body Thief – Trevor Holmes, University of Guelph: http://www.erudit.org/revue/ron/2006/v/n44/014004ar.html

cloudsinvenice: #vampire chronicles, #david talbot, #the tale of the body thief, #i get that it’s super bad form to delete stuff from posts you reblog but I took out the question with the racist slur, #because what the fucking fuck

Thanks for answering that, will have to read that article, I’m intrigued that someone tackled it as a subject!

Also, re: your other good point in your tags, I should have deleted that racist thing myself, but when I published that question I addressed in my response that the term is deragotory. I published it bc it did raise the question regarding how David must have felt about being a different ethnicity.

Oncle Julien

cloudsinvenice:

Okay, heads up: katzenfabrik and I have made an important scientific discovery in the course of re-reading Blackwood Farm. We suffered to bring you this.

Fact 1: ghosts in Anne Rice’s world manifest by gathering atoms of nearby material to themselves.

Fact 2: Oncle Julien manifests while hosting hot chocolate tea parties.

Therefore, the ghost of Oncle Julien is made of chocolate. 

Why everybody hate benji? I need valid reasons!!

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

Um… so many reasons… and I haven’t read that book in awhile so I’m not the best resource for this. The fandom tends to hate on Benji bc:

  • He’s a shameless Gary Stu
  • He’s a child, maybe 12? Marius knows better (without spoiling anything, I’ll leave it at that).
  • He smokes (not a character FLAW per se, but it seemed to be a cheap way to make him look “tough kid” or whatever)
  • Emotionally/intellectually he’s flawless! He’s such an angelic person! He can do no wrong! Such characters are inherently unlikable maybe bc we can’t suspend disbelief for someone so PURE OF HEART. 
  • The way he talks seems oddly teenage? I remember someone saying that as a complaint.

Mostly we hate him because (and this can all be applied to Sybelle equally) of his existence, how he came into Armand’s life, and what happened to him seemed wildly out of the VC universe and out of character for everyone involved.

Here have some fanart:

Co-existing by luizagm2

It’s also the handling of race and race relations, I think. Benji is literally a 12-year-old Arab child that Sybelle’s abusive, controlling brother bought to be a companion to Sybelle. The family had been visiting the Holy Land when the parents got killed in a car crash, and so Sybelle was depressed and wouldn’t play the piano (she was a concert pianist and her brother was isolating and exploiting her like Colonel Parker on steroids). He got Benji to look after Sybelle, and engineer her behaviour, knowing Sybelle would do as Benji asked (i.e. look after herself, play the piano), and he hit Benji anyway. 

It’s hard to explain the clumsiness of the writing, but it’s like… there’s this patina of attempts at evocative detail re: Benji’s clothing and the references he makes, but essentially the book sets up this situation where the quirky Arab kid gets bought by rich white Americans, and that’s bad because the situation is abusive, but then Armand saves them from the evil brother, so then everything’s YAY! And Benji’s such a funny little character!

I’d put it down to Anne Rice being kind of poor at handling gritty “realistic” modern situations (especially since the entire existence of Sybelle and Benji, and their entire circumstances, are there purely because she needed to retcon a character death away), and shoehorning them into her very heightened, stylised, dark fairytale, mostly historical books. So Benji having apparently been bought is talked off in hushed tones like Sybelle knows it’s a bad thing, but nobody seems very concerned to look into his origins or try and put him in touch with his family or anything. I mean, this is a kid who’s been taken across international borders illegally, presumably with fake papers! And now he lives with Sybelle and it’s all quirky and funny how he smokes like a chimney and goes out in the middle of the night in New York City and somehow this is all just… charcaterful! And okay, because he’s happy with Sybelle and Armand!

To be fair, a lot of this is basic Anne Rice tropes: a poor or ordinary child gets swept up by someone rich and given all the education/resources/stuff money can buy, and they are super-happy together and it’s a beneficial arrangement for both parties. Her books have a ton of this rags-to-riches stuff. But I think what makes it unsettling is when she crosses a cultural and racial border, with all the inherent echoes of slavery and colonialism that entails…

Not, please understand, that I love Benji no less. It’s only that I haven’t the same overwhelming protective feeling for him. I know that Benji will live out a great and adventurous life, no matter what should befall me or Sybelle, or even the times. It’s in his flexible and enduring Bedouin nature. He is a true child of the tents and the blowing sands, though in his case, the house was a dismal cinder block hovel on the outskirts of Jerusalem where he induced tourists to pose for overpriced pictures with him and a filthy snarling camel.

He’d been flat out kidnapped by Fox under the felonious terms of a long-term lease of bondage for which Fox paid Benji’s father five thousand dollars. A fabricated emigration passport was thrown into the bargain. He’d been the genius of the tribe, without doubt, had mixed feelings about going home and had learnt in the New York streets to steal, smoke and curse, in that order. Though he swore up and down he couldn’t read, it turned out that he could, and began to do so obsessively just as soon as I started throwing books at him.

In fact, he could read English, Hebrew and Arabic, having read all three in the newspapers of his homeland since before he could remember.

He loved taking care of Sybelle. He saw to it that she ate, drank milk, bathed and changed her clothes when none of these routine tasks interested her. He prided himself on the fact that he could by his wits obtain for her whatever she needed, no matter what happened to her.”