I have a little doubt, are ricean vampires racist?

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Y’know, that is a good question but also a tough one to answer. I’m sure there are academic articles on it (here’s one I skimmed, looks intriguing, thanks to takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever for the link!), and I did a movie!IWTV kill tally (according to the tally, 73% of the on-screen mortals killed were Caucasian). 

I percolated on this with coldinhumanity, and the short answer is: Maybe, but if so, it’s unintentional. These are 200+ yr old vampires, and they have outdated conceptions of things.

In movie!IWTV: Louis kills Yvette, a poc, it was accidental. We see him struggling with it and trying to make Yvette leave him alone, but she seems to actually care about him, “Are you still our master at all? You must send away this friend of yours… they’re frightened of him. And they’re frightened of you.” I headcanon that they had a good relationship prior to his turning, maybe the best possible relationship under the circumstances.

Not saying that Louis was a fantastic slave owner, but we aren’t told negative things about him in that role, only that movie!Yvette (and I think it’s in book!IWTV, too) NOTICED his daytime absence in the fields, and seemed to want him back out there. 

I think Anne Rice attempts to consider political concepts and weave them into her work if possible, but it’s not her main focus. Akasha’s idea for world peace was presented, and refuted. Was Akasha a misandrist? That’s not racism, but it’s hatred of a group of people who all share a certain characteristic having and/or being a dick, and AR strove to show us how impractical it was to try to remove them, 40% of the world’s population, in order to “improve” the remainder. 


In the books, I’d say that:

  • Anne Rice began the first one in the style of the Victorian-era gothic novels she loved, and emulated the way those novels exoticised anything that could be exoticised, such as, exotic people. 
  • The whole series are basically white men from the capitals of Europe.
  • She has had some non-Caucasian vampires (I won’t spoil anything by mentioning them by name), who are typically from places that western history acknowledge as good and impressive, like Ancient Egypt and India.

I don’t think she intends to be racist, and her characters rarely have dialogue that would explicitly state such. In the narration, however, one could argue that there are implied racial opinions.  

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takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever:

i-want-my-iwtv:

“Why do you say such things?”

I think
it’s my favorite scene in the movie, because it’s the one where – when you are
blank of later stories portrayal – you realize that Lestat is not this
one-dimensional villain. This scene is so symptomatic of his attitude:
first he’s all flame and rage, then he casts a bard, and
while fiercely smiling over his “victory”, he already regrets what he just said.
He does have a conscience, whatever kind of nasty or stupid things he can come up with, and he’s genuinely affected and
struggled by what he’s inflicting on his loved ones. He’s without any shadow of a doubt an unbearable brat, but also so much more than that. It’s not that this
dork has no affection for Louis and Claudia – he indubitably does – it’s just
than he doesn’t know how to hold a close/family relationship without being sometimes unfair and/or cruel.

Big shout
out for Kristen Dunst and Tom Cruise here, by the way. They are both amazing.

takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever:

duendology asked: “Delfe, help me, help us! 😉 I’ve been trying to establish which parts of the France southern region (usually administratively now having different names) belonged to the historic “Auvergne”? Is there, perhaps a historic map with this region marked? So I could see this territory in its full historical context?”


First I’ve to confess I’m pretty
much ignorant of Southern France and Auvergne geography (even if I’m currently living “not-so-far” from there – shame on me), so I did learn a lot of things about the history of Auvergne.

Before speaking more specifically of
Auvergne, a “tiny” point; France has two important
administrative divisions: “région” (created in 1955) and “département” (created
in 1790). The 27 régions are subdivided into 101 départements (the

région of Auvergne, for
example, has 4 départements). Therefore, the number of régions is going to be
reduced to 18 in
2016, and Auvergne
will be merged with the

région of Rhône-Alpes. Lyon will most certainly become the administrative
center, so Clermont-Ferrand will lose its
official title of Auvergne’s
capital.

Now, back to the main topic!
Current Auvergne is basically a combination of historic Auvergne and the provinces of Bourbonnais and Velay. The name Auvergne come from gallic tribes of Arvernes, one of
the most famous and powerful confederation of Gaul.
I’m not going to trace the whole history of Auvergne
(I don’t want you to fall asleep and Wikipedia does that 1000 times better than me here anyway) but the “city of Arvernes”, in fact,
covers more or less the territory of 18th century Auvergne. With the Revolution, France is divided in départements, and the province of Auvergne
is split between Puy-de-Dome, Cantal, Haute-Loire and Allier in 1790. A entity similar of
historic Auvergne
is finally brought back in 1955 with the creation of administrative régions.

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18th century Auvergne
on a map of current France (with départements divisions) ;
today’s Auvergne
is in red (I made a map combining this map to another one I found on Wikipedia; it’s not a
perfect match, but it makes things easier to visualize)

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A map of the provinces of Marche, Bourbonnais, Limousin and Auvergne (in red), dating apparently from 1763. [source]

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And a map of the “cité des Arvernes” with actual Auvergne limits. [source]

Voilà !

Louis chéri? You noticed how I was well-behaved last night… Yes, of course you did, don’t be silly. So, I have a petite idea about my more than well-deserved reward… I know how much you enjoy going to Shakespeare plays with me.

♠ (Louis) I did notice you were less critical of my wardrobe last night than you usually are. Is that really what you want for your self-awarded “reward” ? The last Shakespeare performance we went to put you to sleep in the first act. It was somewhat embarrassing, especially because you had insisted on overdressing us both for the occasion. 

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Hey, I asked two questions a couple weeks ago and it still hasn’t been answered. One was about what kind of music the VC vampires listened too and the other was about what Louis would do if he were human for one day. Just wondering what’s taking so long because usually my questions are answered within a few days.

Yessss, I received those! I’m still thinking about them! 

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^this could be a text from either one of them tbh…


I’m sorry, normally I CAN and do reply within a few days, as part of my Being the Active and Responsive VC Blogger I Want to See in the World. I actually have a backlog of a number of asks… It’s very unusual that I don’t reply within a few days. I’ll try to get my inbox cleared this week, promis juré! (”pinky swear!” learned this from takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever <3)

I could say the reason I didn’t reply is that “I’m busy,” but that’s also often used as a blanket excuse answer, so I’ll prove it: 

I’ve had a flurry of fanwork inspiration in the past 2 weeks; some recent RPing, I was working on a ficlet for a fandom friend’s birthday that I posted recently, and another 2 ficlets that I haven’t posted yet (1 is ready and the other is not), and before that I made two VC parody videos [1, my first original post to break 10K notes!! zomg!] and [2 which features a snippet of Britney Spears music aww yisss]… 

ALSO I have a personal rule that I try not to post more than 10x a day, I don’t want to spam y’all and I think I’m over my limit today. Even though fanworks are happy spam (ノ°∀°)ノ’.:*・°☆

SPECIFICALLY THOSE ASKS THOUGH:

I guess it’s hard because in terms of music, that’s a big answer, and I’m trying to think of ways to answer it without it being a Wall of Text™ because noone wants to read that much…

Aaaand the Louis question is also hard because that’s another potential Wall of Text™ because there are so many things I think he’d love! And there’s the question of does he get to decide where he is when it happens? Maybe he’d want to go somewhere outside NOLA for a daylight experience. 

So I’m still percolating on those and all my asks, please be patient, it’s always worth the wait from Mater Fabuloso, oui?

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takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever:

Just vampiry things : loving neck kisses.

takemetocoffin-or-losemeforever:

So… There are
more than 300 people following this blog, and that’s unexpected and frankly amazing!

I know I
don’t interact much, not because I don’t want to but half the time I don’t
have anthing relevant to say, or I’m too “tired” to write in English (I think my
lazy brain is born tired…!). I’m always scared to make mistakes, and
afraid to be misunderstood *even if it’s always a risk whatever type of
communication is it*, so it takes me quite a while when I write something… which
inevitably ends up weird and full of mistakes haha. It’s easier to post silly
stuff, I guess it’s for me the best way to communicate with people! Everytime
you like, or reblog, I’m really glad to know I made someone laugh. *Oh gosh,
that’s so cliché! But I swear it’s true.*

Anyway,
thank you so much! I hope you’ll continue to enjoy whatever will be posted
here.

Peace, love, hugs and carrot cakes
to you all~

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Thank you for your enthusiastic input Louis.

takemetocoffin-or-losemeforeverThe good side of pronouncing Lestat in the non-Germanic way is that you can make stupid puns with the determiner “les” in French. And that’s priceless.

More seriously, since I saw the movie before reading the books, I pronounce the final “T” of Lestat, while it’s usually not the case in French. So, theoretically, in modern French, the pronunciation would be something like “lesta”. But it sounds kinda silly, and there is an awful lot of exceptions to the “t” rule. Furthermore, “Lestat” hugely looks like the Occitan word “estat”, prononced “S-taT”. And guess where Occitan, an old language still used nowadays, is spoken? In south France, which include Auvergne. So, in a very twisted way, “LestaT” as an old french name is making sense. At least if you accept the idea that “the state” is a decent name for a person.

OuO very informative. 

AR says it was a typo of Lestan, “Le,” French for “The,” + “Stan” for her husband, Stan Rice, and the typo with the “T” stuck. In a way, Uncle Lestan is actually how AR intended his name to be. 


In canon, Lestat explains in Blackwood Farm that his name is just the first letters of his siblings’ names:

“What an unusual name, Lestat,” she returned. “Does it have a meaning?”

“None whatsoever, Madam,” Lestat answered. “If memory serves me right, and it does less and less, the name’s compounded of the first letter of each of my six older brothers’ names, all of whom – the brothers and their names – I grew up to cheerfully and vigorously despise.”

^This could work, but we only know one of his brother’s names, Augustin.

Discussing this with viaticumforthemarquise-archive… maybe Augustin (or one of Lestat’s brothers) told him that just to hurt his feelings, like “YOU ARE SO WORTHLESS THAT AT BIRTH OUR PARENTS COULD ONLY MUSTER THE CREATIVITY TO TAKE A LETTER FROM EACH OF OUR NAMES” *SLAPS*

Lestat: *screaming internally*

They told him this at a young age … and he never questioned it ;A;

I liked this headcanon for Lestat’s naming, by viaticumforthemarquise-archive.