You totally managed to misunderstand me about my question on Armand. And no I did not mean to be silly. “he seems to be calling ppl out on their assumptions about young boys deserving to be treated like sex objects, and not requiring as much respect as an adult. He takes issue with the fact that since someone calls him “a guilty cunning child,” he deserves to be “ravaged”. ” That’s exactly what I meant. That it must suck for him to be handled like this.

Will a doge twinkie appease you a little? As a peace offering! I offer it in all seriousness, no sarcasm at all. He’s much twinkier than Armand, and delishus, too ❤

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I thought I answered very thoughtfully here, and I guess I’m having trouble reconciling your statements here in yellow, (my own comments in blue):

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I totally managed to misunderstand you, and then I got exactly what you meant? Are you concerned bc I put those opinions in blue under the cut? I do that to keep the post from going on too long, as ppl have told me that my responses can clutter their dash, so it’s more respectful, but for this post, I’ll just let it all hang out and go long, ok?

TL;DR: Hopefully we can agree that text sometimes sounds more or less emotional than it was intended when written, I certainly did not intend to be at all offensive or act like my opinion is any way the definitive authority on the matter, nor was I trying to be rude in the slightest, and I’m sorry that it came across that way, if it did.

Does it really suck for Armand to be in a position of being treated like a sex object? Yes, I bet it does. But he is aware, he is a student of sexuality, he’s interested in it and uses ppl’s perceptions to his advantage.


However, I recognize that this is a hot-button kind of topic in our fandom, so, okay, it’s worth delving into it a little deeper! Re: Armand being a “twink,” Part 2: 

Yes, it must suck to be forever seen as a sex object and having ppl throw themselves at you. And yet! There are all kinds of genders and ages of ppl who experience that on a daily or weekly basis.

Look at this recent story, just a few months ago (sorry I picked what appears to be a “pretty” cishet white girl, it’s just the most recent example I could think of and find an article for):

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“A young woman is hitting back at the idea that women ‘invite’ catcalling by showing how it ‘doesn’t matter’ what you are wearing, it still happens.” [Source]

There are so many of these stories on a daily basis, all over the world, right in your face. It’s very disheartening. Sometimes it goes a lot farther than it did w/ Ms. Brandt. No matter how the victim is dressed. No matter what the victim looks like or acts like.

How does this apply to Armand tho??

I went over this with a fandom friend who preferred not to be credited, and they said some very smart things, which I’ll include below.

First, tho, I want to mention the obvious: our canon has a lot of sexuality in it. ALOT. Whether you believe the vampires are asexual or fully sexual in terms of penetrative sexual intercourse? That’s up to each reader to decide. We know AR’s stance on it, that they express sensuality differently than penetrative sexual intercourse. I have no need to convince anyone of what my own headcanon is re: this set of fictional characters’ sex lives.

Secondly, a lot of VC RP and fandom discussion often brings up sex as it pertains to this set of fictional characters. I would guess that’s because humans in general are intrigued by sex for so many reasons, not the least of which is the younger fandom ppl coming in who are curious about the role that sex plays in a relationship. Is it the real glue that binds a ship together? Can a ship sail on sex alone? SEX!

How does this apply to Armand tho????

Okay! Now we can address this. Fandom Friend says:

“I think you do actually agree with each other, though [Anon’s] message is confusing in that they start off sounding like they are simplifying [Armand] (he’s ‘just’ a twink) but end up defending his own pov, [which you also pointed out in your response], that he is well-aware of how he is perceived and that he mocks that tendency, to reduce him to a beautiful, sexually attractive youth/boy.”

Armand is one of the characters in canon that we tend to tease about sex often (more in fandom spaces than in canon), bc he had a rich sexual history in his mortal life (first against his will, and then as part of his education and completing the experiences of a Full Life). In vampirism he maintained the appearance that drew so many to him sexually.

Fandom Friend continues:

“it’s true that [Armand] is wanted by everyone, there’s a very nice quote somewhere in QotD about it, but the sexual component in Armand’s character is such an integral part of his amazing mental manipulations, that it really has nothing to do with sex in the end.”

Here’s the quote, where we can see Armand “paying forward” his own education on Daniel:

“Men and women fell in love with Armand, of course, “so innocent, so passionate, so brilliant!” You don’t say. In fact, Armand’s power to seduce was almost beyond his control. And it was Daniel who must bed these unfortunates, if Armand could possibly arrange it, while he watched from a chair nearby, a dark-eyed Cupid with a tender approving smile. Hot, nerve-searing, this witnessed passion, Daniel working the other body with ever greater abandon, aroused by the dual purpose of every intimate gesture. Yet he lay empty afterwards, staring at Armand, resentful, cold.“ – Queen of the Damned

“This is not Armand being sexual, it’s him being manipulative and Danny knows, which is why he is so pissed off!”

Armand is just as interested in sex as we are! He’s interested in the physical mechanics, he’s interested in the emotional connections that can be forged, he’s interested in the mystery of the act performed in a multitude of ways.

He’s interested in it from the perspective of deriving dominance through the act. Marking one’s property. So many other things that I haven’t discovered myself yet about what sex is!


So what’s my point with all this? Like I said before, in general I don’t like to categorize characters as one thing, they’re multi-dimensional, and they evolve and change through canon, despite their physical appearances staying the same.

Anyway I don’t want to argue the point any further, #your headcanon may vary!

Don’t you think that Armand is basically the archetype of the “twink” (aka attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair)? He himself admits it in TVA “Everyone would ravage a guilty cunning child! Everyone would have a laughing boy who knows his way around the block […] but young boys? They’re not like men, are they?” It must suck to be entombed into a twink body for eternity. I’m sure he gets plenty of offers for sex.

I can’t agree with you, bc I’m not sure if you’re being silly, in more of a Tumblrland Hyperbole™ way, but I’m feeling like defending him a little.

In general I don’t like to categorize characters as one thing, they’re multi-dimensional, and they evolve and change through canon, despite their physical appearances staying the same.

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[textmeme by armandromanus, who deactivated so I can’t link to it] ^This is really perfect for this conversation, bc you can tell by the expression @armandromanus chose in that pic that Armand does know that others often perceive him purely based on his looks, and how very wrong they are to do so.

It’s kind of sad to see such a rich and layered character so often reduced to a sex object. There’s a lot more to him than that. He struggles with the concept of intimacy bc it’s not just about sex.

I don’t think Armand thinks of himself as just some sextoy regardless of how many ppl offer him sex even now; he’s actually very selective about those he allows to get close to him physically and emotionally, when he has the independence to choose.

There are a number of times in Armand’s life in which he has been ravaged, totally against his will, just because of how he looks or acts.

Any Armand RPers are invited and welcome to add onto this.

A few thoughts on the quote you selected, hit the jump.


You might also be misreading that quote, it doesn’t seem like he’s admitting that he deserves to be treated like a sex object, more that he seems to be calling ppl out on their assumptions about young boys deserving to be treated like sex objects, and not requiring as much respect as an adult. He takes issue with the fact that since someone calls him “a guilty cunning child,” he deserves to be “ravaged”. 

“Everyone would have a laughing boy who knows his way around the block […]”

^This sounds more like he’s saying, “People want a lover who’s easy to please and/or will happily serve skilled sex…” Basically, a prostitute, for free.

“but young boys? They’re not like men, are they?”

^This sounds more like he means, “young boys don’t need to be treated with the same respect you would treat an adult.”

Back in QotD Dan said his evil dark twink bf could open locked doors with his mind or something? Lesty said so too in TotBT if I’m not mistaken. Here’s the thing. Do you think they can open like, electric doors? Like the ones in apartments I guess?

“No locks ever kept Armand from anything.” – Daniel Molloy, Queen of the Damned.

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[fanart by @elodiron]

So yes, Daniel’s evil dark twink bf Armand can open locked doors, since there would be electrical locks at that point, but I think it was more that Armand always had a way of sneaking in (being wee, he could probably climb up and enter a small window!), or could get someone to open the door for him, bc I don’t recall that Armand has telekinesis in canon.

Lestat and Marius both have telekinesis in canon, but I don’t think there’s a lot of detail about their manipulating electricals…

“I was sitting in the darkened cathedral. Hours ago it had been locked, and I had entered surreptitiously through one of the front doors, quieting the protective alarms. And left it open for him.” – Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^Lestat doesn’t say how he quieted the alarms. I’m guessing that Marius and Lestat’s telekinesis does extend to electrical locks, more in their physical attributes, though. If you can manually force open the parts that keep a door locked, the electricals don’t matter.

And of course, they’re both strong enough to just knock your door down physically ;]

Two more alarm-related quotes, that didn’t really add to my point but I found them anyway, under the cut, for length.


The lock gave easily when I commanded it to do so. And the door opened as if I had touched it, when I had not.“- Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^This is probly a normal physical lock w/o the alarm system.

“And I locked up the shop door tight with a few little telepathic twists, and off I went again.” Lestat, Tale of the Body Thief.

^One of Lestat’s regular mini-shopping sprees in a closed store. I would think this shop had an alarm system but he doesn’t mention needing to disable it.

You may have been asked this before, but who are your ideal VC cast members, face claim-wise? Have you ever seen anyone and though, “THAT’s exactly how I picture Lestat/Louis/Armand etc.?”

First of all, omg you are one of my fave VC fanartists *appreciative flailing* thank u so much for asking my opinion on this!

You guys, this is one of @muirin007’s fanarts [X] and still one of my absolute faves, from when I began this blog:

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Yes, I have been asked this before but my opinions do change over time, and it’s always worth taking a fresh stab at it *,….,*

Some of this is a dreamcast for obvious reasons, and I’m limiting it to The Vampire Lestat, since it looks like that’s the focus of the new adaptation (And I’m also giving myself the difficulty of not recasting anyone from movie!IWTV bc u all know how attached I am to all of those actors by now). And I tried to pick ppl that would mesh well together as a set. Some characters get alot of commentary and some get none. These are the ppl that give me that “THAT’s exactly how I picture Lestat/Louis/Armand etc.?” feeling.

There are alot more options in the #VC casting tag, if you have some time to kill!  

Lestat de Lioncourt: Brett Scallions from Fuel, circa the 90′s.

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^screencaps from the Bad Day video

He’s already an actual rockstar.

He can play guitar.

His singing voice is close to my headcanon of Lestat’s. Yes, somewhat nasal, vocal growl, some range. IMO, he has the perfect build, and yeah, he’s attractive, but what makes him so magnetic and not just another slab of manflesh are his huge soulful eyes and that generous mouth, which really can look cruel at times. He just needs a little dental work and a quality hairstylist. [Some more of my fave pics of him here]

Runner ups: Taylor Hanson circa the 90′s (VERY CLOSE SECOND CHOICE), Gaspard Ulliel,

Charlie Hunnam, Travis Fimmel, Cary Elwes circa the 90′s, and Martin Rolinski.

Nicolas de Lenfent: Benedict Samuel, 2016

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I’ve only seen him recently in The Walking Dead, and you have to see him in that, bc he’s as sweet and tender and intense and depressive as Nicolas needs to be. Physically, these full lips and dark brooding eyes, the wide smile that’s
almost manic and the frown that speaks to a deeper well of misery
that no one can hope to touch. Am I praising him too much? PROBABLY BUT I DO WHAT I WANT. [I wax on poetic about him a little more here]

Runner ups: David Garrett (ACTUAL violinist), Anthony Misiano (that high quality Joker cosplayer!), Sebastian StanJonas Kesseler (model), Ezra Miller

Louis de Pointe du Lac: Miles McMillan

Actually I haven’t found my perfect headcanon of Louis yet, but for now, he’s a placeholder. While Louis isn’t a ~starring~ character in TVL, he is mentioned, and what with being compared to Nicolas, I have to include him. 

I feel like Miles has the slender build, the soulfulness to his expression, and he looks great dressed up w/ disheveled hair. [X]

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[Moar pics of Miles and reasons here]

Runner ups: Florian Pessenteiner, Henry Cavil circa 2002, Trent Reznor circa the 90′s, Peter Steele of Type O Negative (Steele is a little too masculine but his eyes are perfection).

Gabrielle de Lioncourt: Grace Kelly, The Swan, 1956

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SHE’S JUST SO PERF. She looks like she’s about to say, “BTW I do not hold back in combat so you better come at me with 110% bitch.”

Runner ups: Michelle PfeifferCate Blanchett, Nicole KidmanCatherine Deneuve circa the 80’s, Charlize Theron, Connie Nielsen.

Marquis Valère de Lioncourt: Timothy Omundson, 2016

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I can’t explain. JUST WANT. He is a very likable bully in Galavant and tbh I imagine Lestat’s Dad would have a sense of humor, and that’s partially where Lestat got it from. Unfortunately, that wasn’t all he got from his father. [Moar gifs and pics I’ve gathered of him here]

Marius de Romanus: Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, 2016

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I can’t explain. JUST WANT. A better father-figure for Lestat, one he would have given just about anything to stay with for awhile.

Also, David Bowie bc of reasons:

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Runner ups: Michael Fassbender (CLOSE SECOND CHOICE), Lee Pace as Thranduil

The vampire Armand:

Björn Andrésen, 70′s

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^He’s a fandom fave.[Moar of him here].

But okay, or, 

The vampire Armand: Matthew Clavane, 2016

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I can’t explain rn. JUST WANT.

[Reasons and more pics here

the vampire Magnus – Alice Cooper circa Suck, 2009

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^Reasons should be pretty obvious.

Akasha, Queen of the Damned: Nicki Minaj or Rihanna

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^[fanart source X, pic source X] BC OF REASONS. Women empowerment. Beauty. Mystery. All dat and a bag of chips. [Moar Nicki, Moar Rihanna]

Runner up: Tyra Banks.

So: 

3 De Lioncourts:

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And that’s just my opinion, you guys are free to disagree, but please do so w/ respect bc this took alot of guts and alot of time and ALOT of effort to put together!

Remember:

#Your Headcanon May Vary

Who is Armand hanging around with these days? I he happy?What is he up to? I haven’t read Prince Lestat yet, and I’m curious.

It’s not in Armand’s nature to be simply happy. He has known joy and a sense of belonging at various points in his life; he’s even been in love. Currently he feels a sense of peace in being needed by those he spends time with.

Whether you ship Daniel/Marius or Daniel/Armand, I think Armand spends time with both Daniel and Marius; and feels loved to some extent by the whole coven. Armand likes to pull different members for trips to the galleries or shopping, but his favorite thing is lazing about the house playing chess with Louis or having a lively debate with David on art history, architecture being a favorite topic.  

Occasionally he hunts with Lestat, where they can both feel a little more relaxed, away from the scrutiny of others (who actually encourage the friction w/o meaning to do so, just bc they’re afraid it will happen and keep making furtive glances at Lestat and Armand to the point where they do sometimes crack under the pressure and pick a fight over nothing).

If you wanted Armand’s current vampire happenings re: Prince Lestat, which I struggle to accept as canon YES EVEN NOW over a year later i know get out ma faaace here ya go:

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[Art by @garama, text by @merciful-death]

Light spoiling after the jump.


According to Prince Lestat, Armand was living in a gorgeous old building (which, of course, he spruced up to his exacting luxurious specifications) on the upper east side of NY w/ Louis, Sybelle and Benji. Eventually Antoine (the unnamed musician vampire from IWTV, Lestat’s alleged 5th fledgling who had gone unmentioned up until PL) arrived at their door and was welcomed by all.

Throughout the story of Prince Lestat, Armand does little other than be supportive of Lestat, in a way that almost seems obsequious. Not much really happens for Armand, he rides out the whole drama pretty unscathed.

So currently he is pretty content with things and enjoying the company of Sybelle and Benji, and whoever else wants to chill with him.