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#A+ parenting #he’ll definitely hate this and go out and feed himself properly like I do #he better not think he can eat junk food like this /all/ the frickin’ time…

Explain to me why vampires cannot drink dead blood, but vampires (which are dead) can still drink the blood of other vampires?

IDK about other vampires, but I would say that Ricean vampires are not in fact poisoned by dead blood, they can drink it, it’s just very distasteful to them. I’m not going to use all the equivocating language like “may,” and “might,” this is all my very strong opinion on this topic so as always #your headcanon may vary, don’t take it personally if we disagree.

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{{Oh Louis, bb, we know, it gets cold so quickly
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The huge difference between dead mortal (human or animal) blood and vampire blood is that the *~vampiric parasite~* in vampire blood keeps them alive/undead. Ricean vampires aren’t 100% dead (though they may poetically feel that way), they are metamorphosed into a supernatural accident. 

Lestat does say in the movie (and this is probably where the confusion about the supposed lethalness of dead blood comes from, too), “You let me drink *dead* blood?!” and it might seem like he means that the deadness of it was the lethally poisonous aspect of it, when in actuality he knows he’s been drugged, it was the absinthe & laudanum combo that’s incapacitated him. Still, those drugs are not poisonous to a vampire; he asks to be put in his coffin like a mortal might want to be put to bed, to sleep it off. Claudia did it to bring his defenses down so she had a chance at killing him. He couldn’t fend her off as well in that drugged state.

In TVL, Lestat goes to Armand in Paris for help after Claudia and Louis try to assassinate him a second time, and Armand throws him in a locked cell with a dead mortal for dinner:

“Sometime in the dark, I discovered a mortal victim there. But the victim was dead. Cold blood, nauseating blood. The worst kind of feeding, lying on that clammy corpse, sucking up what was left.”

^So clearly dead blood is not bad in the sense of being poisonous, just icky 😛 It must still have some minimal nutritional value since he feeds on it anyway.

Hit the jump for a little more, cut for length.


Lethal/poisonous blood is not about the blood itself, but is about the moment of death of the victim: What movie!Lestat warns Claudia about in Vampiring 101: (and he warns Louis in the book!IWTV) is that she must stop drinking before the victim’s heart stops, at least in the beginning, or else the victim could take her down with them in death. That’s more about the soul separating from its body at the moment of death. Older/stronger vampires can keep drinking and slurp the impact of the death down, too. Lestat describes doing it in TVL against his maker’s advice bc of course he goes against his maker’s advice:  

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and when the blood came it was
pure voluptuousness. In fact, it was so exquisite that I forgot
completely about drawing away before the heart stopped. We were on
our knees in the snow together, and it was a wallop, the life going into
me with the blood. I couldn’t move for a long moment.
Hmmm,
broke the rules already, I thought. Am I supposed to die now?
Doesn’t look like that is going to happen. Just this rolling delirium.”

Also worth noting is that when mortals are turned in canon, they describe vampire blood as being extremely delicious, satisfying in more than a physical way: “And it was not merely the dry hissing coil of the thirst that was quenched and dissolved, it was all my craving, all the want and misery and hunger that I had ever known.” – Lestat (TVL). Strong words! AR has equated the Dark Gift to childbirth and I think the act of the fledgling feeding on their maker is very much like an infant at its mother’s breast. That kind of nourishment is physical AND emotional.

Personally, I’ve tasted dead blood very recently, I just had chocolate blood pudding a few days ago at the Feeding Hannibal dinner (with @mferret9​, @sarah-thetrappedcat, and @thatironstring​!) and it was yummy but it does not produce that kind of satisfaction. At least not for me!

I thought that Louis was really weak for a vampire but I was told that he wasn’t. I’m confused because I always remember him being portrayed a physically weak as far as vampires go.

Well, it depends what part of canon you’re at, and what amount of canon you accept.*  I’m still not entirely sure what my headcanon is w/ his current abilities, but even if you ignore all of canon after IWTV, he’s been a vampire 225 years so he’s stronger just through age if nothing else. 

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He’s also one of the only vampires in canon who has never “gone to ground” (hiding/burying oneself in the ground for an extended period of time in a state of complete or semi-unconsciousness), even though he’s had very good reasons to ;A;

 Armand describes Louis’ lack of powers here in TVA: “
unable to read minds, or to levitate, or to spellbind others except inadvertently, which can be hilarious, an immortal with whom mortals fall in love.”

Just from IWTV and into the later books, yes, Louis is referred to as physically weaker than the other vampires, and he doesn’t exhibit any of the gifts that some other fledglings have in canon (like telepathy, telekinesis). This doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any of these now, but that he hasn’t really exercised them in canon. 

Lestat tells us in TVL: “I never revealed to him half my powers, and with reason, because he shrank in guilt and self-loathing from using even half of his own.”

But he’s still stronger and faster than a mortal. He’s also able to defend himself and kick a lot of ass, so to call him “really weak” is probably an overstatement. What he lacks physically he makes up for mentally, he’s strategic in the way he attacks when he does attack, and he can hold his own against much stronger and older vampires (he took out most of the Theatre des Vampires on his own in IWTV!)

Part of his weakness in comparison to the rest of the coven is the fact that he was Lestat’s 3rd fledgling in such a short period of time after Lestat’s 2nd fledgling (Nicolas). In Ricean vampire physiology, a maker needs to wait a good long while between making fledglings; too much frequency will make subsequent fledglings weaker than they could have been. Plus, even though Lestat had the blood of a much older and stronger vampire when he was turned, Lestat himself was only a decade into vampiring himself. It seems the vampiric spirit discourages the transfer of powers from young vampires to their fledglings. If anyone got the bulk of that power, it was Gabrielle, Lestat’s first.

There is also some speculation that the blood transfer needs to be exchanged more than once (how it was done w/ Louis) to ensure a stronger fledgling. Marius, for example, exchanged blood with his maker multiple times when he was turned.

*Spoilers under the cut.

Louis was upgraded in Merrick, and in PL, he can fly (the Cloud Gift). We don’t know if he has any others now. Maybe we’ll find out in PLROA! He has a significant role in it, according to AR.

stellasgibson:

Tumblr is so exhausting. Not everyone or everything is bad. Everyone and everything eventually fucks up and says/does something they shouldn’t but not everyone and everything should be written off because of those things. It’s so, so fucking tiring to read people having to constantly justify their enjoyment of someone or something. Liking someone or something does not mean you condone everything about it or them. 

Cutting out someone or something that is important to you or has a positive impact on you just because someone on Tumblr says they’re problematic or digs up old receipts is so upsetting and unnecessary. You do you. Enjoy what you enjoy, recognize the problems it inevitably has, but don’t feel pressure to give someone or something up if you don’t want to and if they make you happy. It’s fine. You’re allowed. 

Sorry for the spam, but I’ve been binging your archive a bit and I’m wondering, just out of curiosity, how would you go about constructing at least somewhat science-y vampires?

biologyweeps:

That depends of course on what sort of vampire we’re aiming for. Infectious vampirism would require an infectious agents of course and there I would tend more towards viruses because they do muck around with DNA and protein construction so for physical changes that’d be neat.

At the same time, parasitic infectious a la The Strain are also really tempting, especially because it drifts over into ‘behavioural changes caused by parasites’ which is just hella cool, though I figure that those vampires would be sitting halfway between what we tend to think of as vampires and Umbrella Corp zombies. 

If we’re going with non-infectious vampirism, the field of genetics is wiiiiide open, though personally I’m not a huge fan of the whole ‘super predator’ thing because again, evolution the straight C student. You wouldn’t get twilight-style ‘super attractive/fast/strong’ because frankly one of those would be perfectly sufficient and as we all know, the concept of evolution is to get a ‘good enough’ and that’s it. Look at cheetahs. They’re incredibly speedy, but like sighthounds they’re not terribly strong. They don’t need to be. If you can run your intended prey down and strangle-bite the exhausted gazelle, there’s no need for you to be able to rip it into two parts as well. 

So like, you’re vampires are fabulously hot, chances are it’s a prey lure tactic and they’re not very fast. If you make them poisonous they might not even be very strong. On the other hands, if they’re ugly as sin you’re most likely looking at something that’s doesn’t need to make humans come close it so it probably *is* really speedy and/or strong enough to kill you before you can get away.

So uh yeah basically first you gotta settle on what sort of vampirism you want and then you gotta consider how you’d arrive at that particular kind through evolutionary sensible means (meaning with the last amount of effort). Thankfully nature provides for a lot of inspiration already if you want to wrangle out specific details.Â