It’s Armand and it’s actually canonand one of my favorite parts to visualize in QotD(although it’s honky-tonk not ragtime, but their styles are related) I mean, just imagine Daniel waking up to that, looking completely DONE.
Queen of the Damned, page 88
It’s update time! You were right
@i-want-my-iwtv in your assumption that Lestat would love it.
Now go ahead and imagine them dancing to these tunes.
#IT GOT BETTER
Thanks for the update, @luthi69! If anyone is in a bad mood, just TRY and keep that mood with this bouncy happy music on, JUST TRY.
And now I AM imagining Lestat, Daniel, and Armand paying a jazz band to play this all night at a club in NOLA, dancing to it w/ people and having such a good time ❤
//Okay, this needs to be answered OOC, because my Lestat would have to answer with my personal headcanon, b/c I think Mater is full of shit.
According to canon and Anne/Mater, her vampires do not experience sexual pleasure with their genitals. In QotD, Lestat calls his cock useless, claiming that it can no longer do what it was intended to, or some shit like that (I have a migraine and I’m not looking it up, but I’m sure @i-want-my-iwtv could give you the precise quote because she’s amazing).
Anne of course (typically) reneges on this when she wrote PL, creates a bunch of faulty science bullshit so that Lestat can jizz for science and create Viktor.
In fanon, it’s generally accepted that, yes, the vampires can have sex. There is some variation on this depending on what fic you are reading or who you are RPing with–but it’s generally agreed upon that vampire sex is 100% about the blood and sensuality, and that, even if they aren’t going to orgasm in the traditional sense, they are still going to get something pretty intense out of the entire situation.
There are some pretty amazing fics out there that make sense of all this, but since Vampire Chronicles fan fiction doesn’t technically exist, I can’t help you find them.
For my purposes, sure, Lestat has sex. Plenty of it. And it’s primarily about the blood. But there is also fun to be had with their bodies, and that’s more fun to write anyway, so there you have it.
ooc: ALL OF THIS. Also like… you can’t tell me that vampire sensation is 10x that of a human and expect me to believe that sensual touch does nothing for them. Maybe they can’t reach climax but that’s what the blood is for. Doesn’t mean sexual acts don’t work as amazing foreplay.
ooc: I’ve written about this before at some point I believe, but that’s very much my take on it too. Especially this: ‘you can’t tell me that vampire sensation is 10x that of a human and expect me to believe that sensual touch does nothing for them’
Hell yeah.
^Basically agreed with all 3 ppl here. Respect #Your headcanon may vary on this topic.
Canon doesn’t directly take on whether their dicks even work until the 3rd book, when Lestat says:
“I studied my reflection … and the organ, the organ we don’t need, poised as if ready for what it would never again know how to do or want to do, marble, a Priapus at a gate” – Lestat, Queen of the Damned
So I’ve discussed this topic at length in my tags for it: #asexuality, #asexual, #sex, #sexuality, #lets talk about sex. So check those out for more discussion on it. Ricean vampires still do feel sexual lust, it’s channeled through the experience of taking/sharing blood, and other sensually physical things.
In fanon there is a wide spectrum of whether they can have penetrative sex, some even speculate that their um… output… would be very bloody.
TL;DR: It all depends on your idea of what sex is. There are human couples who are unable (or do not want) to experience penetrative sex, and they can still be intimate with each other in other ways.
Claudia asks Louis about sex in IWTV, and he replies that it “‘…was something hurried…And… it was seldom savored… something acute that was quickly lost. I think that it was the pale shadow of killing.’”
He could have been lying a little to downplay it, so that she wouldn’t feel as bad for missing out on smtg she would never be able to experience, or maybe bc he truly felt that the experience of killing supercedes mortal intercourse. We don’t know bc #unreliable narrator.
ALL THAT SAID, if you prefer to take AR’s word as the gospel for canon, she has been definitive about it:
I think that reproductive obstacle (vampires are undead, they cannot carry a growing baby inside of dead flesh) is why Anne Rice made the choice that they could BE sexual, but not in a reproductive way.
// AR shared this article on FB last night, and I, for one, am fucking terrified.
I’m not leaving…
Wow, *huge sigh of relief.*
TL;DR: I read it. It’s an essay from some random person, Carmen Dominique Taxer, about how RPers of fictional characters, specifically Lestat, are somehow divorcing readers from their headcanons of the fictional characters due to the way the RPers choose to portray these characters. That Taxer herself feels she had some kind of intimate connection with Lestat that RPer’s are somehow responsible for dissolving.
[As an aside: I thought that the article was going to be an interview with AR re: the next VC and she was saying smtg like, “~Welp guys I revived him, spruced him all up, and crowned him *~KING~* and now I’m ready to //SLAUGHTER// HIM IN THE NEXT BOOK HOW D’YA LIKE THEM APPLES?? xoxo AR~" which is absolutely not what the article was about which was a huge relief]
The scary part is not the accusation of the author of the essay. The scary part could be that AR shared it on her page. But she presented it without her own opinion. In the past, presenting topics without her own opinion was an open invitation to her POTP army to descend upon whoever/whatever the topic was and crush them/it out of existence.
That doesn’t seem to be her intention here. I didn’t see her response(s), if there were any, to the feedback she got on it. She might really just be curious about how her readers might agree or disagree with Ms. Taxer.
A quick skim showed that RPers defended themselves very eloquently and respectfully. I pasted one such response below:
Hit the jump for more on this, but basically, dudes, RPers, fanfic writers, I do not sense any disturbance in our corner of the Force. Continue business as usual.
And really, I think it’s wonderful that we have Lestats to flirt and interact with, Louis’s ("Louisi”?) to tease about fire, Armands to push around, Daniels to pester, characters like Claudia and Nicolas revived from their canon deaths, etc. etc., basically, #LOVE TO ALL THE RPERS!
Kristy Ashton: “Read through it a little bit and it was a nicely written piece I felt it gave role players a very bad name.
I have been a role player going on 20 years in a large variety of platforms and not all of us ‘steal’ canon characters for our own. My characters have always and will always be original and so have my storylines because I don’t like ‘rules’ laid down for restricted storylines.
But what upset me was the reference to role players as hollow creatures. It reminds me to much how fan fic writers are seen as having no creativity. I wrote fan fiction as a teenager and I saw it as creative exercise, just like role play.
I am a writer now, creating all my own original material and characters, and not once have I ever felt bad for any of this. This article felt like shaming to me and kinda ticked me off in that way.”
I added my emphasis in bold. Taxer responded to Ashton that she herself is a role-player! She says that “the role-players I refer to specifically are not the same as the traditional rp’ers. I have a lot of respect for someone that can take on the nature of a character, but, I have met some… less than honest ones online. I woud like to clarify now, that, the manipulations referred to in this article are not every role-player I have ever met, though, far too many, so much so, that, it has caused me to lose my own passion for roleplaying. Something that saddens me greatly…
I abhor the resentment passed on role-players, and that includes the resentment I may have perpetuated here, which is why I have placed a disclaimer into the original article now.”
So she basically withdraws some of the resentment after some more rational conversation about it.
I-want-my-IWTV 