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Rutger Hauer is Lestat

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cloudsinvenice:

duendology:

Today Facebook played “I know what you did last spring summer” and reminded me what I did on May 29th but 4 years ago. I am  so grateful…

 Ok and this is what I did. Honestly, I completely forgot about it. And yes, nothing has changed in this department…

BUT let’s make something clear…Tom Cruise was brilliant as Lestat. 😉

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I  reposted this status on my wall, because of course I  got nostalgic and I am lestatized heavily. We had a lovely conversation with friends there. 

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It PAINS me that Rutger Hauer didn’t play Lestat back then. Just look at him, god damn. *thousand-yard stare*

^Agreed. VERY PAIN. Forever mourn that Rutger Hauer was too old when they were finally ready to make IWTV. The book came out in ‘76, and the movie languished in production hell until it finally started filming in ’93-’94 and like afg;huljl;!?kflifiimsfifghtl! *strangled anguish noises* 

Travis Fimmel also has a lot of Lestatuesque potential in him… Even Stuart Townsend did the best he could with the trainwreck he was given (who do I blame his accent on? Probably the director). At least Townsend had the right build, I’ll give him that. It’s another tough thing to achieve; Lestat would have been athletically muscular from all the running and hunting in the Auvergne, and then the acrobatics in Paris. Not a bodybuilder level of muscular. Plus he was like 21, remember.

BUT! YES! let’s make something clear…Tom Cruise was brilliant as Lestat. 😉

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anaryawe:

cloudsinvenice:

anaryawe:

when you really want to draw but vampire …human anatomy refuses to work for you and you just sort of think for two hours what kind of shoes they’d wear in different eras.

When I get totally stuck I just use them as an excuse to draw different historical clothing. I should do that again; I haven’t drawn the vampires forever (or much else) because my confidence is crap. :S

Yes, that is exactly what I’m doing!  Also – they’re a good excuse to google a lot of scantily clad skinny men and draw. For the sake of practice. 

I’ve only recently got into drawing them at all so it’s all still sort of taking shape. But yes you should – drawing clothes is so much fun and there’s never too much VC fan art around! 

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funkypoacher:

cloudsinvenice:

hannibals-cheekbones:

They need to scrap the idea of making The Vampire Chronicles into any more movies and just do a TV show called The Vampire Lestat on HBO or Showtime, or whatever. They can start with the second book, The Vampire Lestat (obvi), for season 1-Lestat’s origin, how he was turned, Nicholas, Marius, Louis, etc etc and see how it goes from there. There’s so much material, a 2 hour movie just isn’t enough for the characters or the storylines.

Yeah, and I’d be happy with a very freely adapted version of the books, a la what Hannibal does with Thomas Harris’s work. It could tell a lot of the same storylines without having to work its way through the books as written one by one, and they could play around a lot with inserting flashbacks as and when they wanted to either add new material or make the clunkier moments of storytelling in the books more concise. 

Just go back in time and get this made pleeeeeeease. Nic Lea and Anne Rice = match made in something something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYBtSquM7O0

^WHAT (you guys, watch the vid in the link bc HELP it’s giving me second-hand embarrassment for some odd reason)  

“Anne Rice wrote the pilot about a group of higher beings who have taken human form in New York City and must battle nefarious forces not seen by mere mortals. Unfortunately it wasn´t picked up, so all that remains is this never aired pilot.”

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cloudsinvenice:

hannibals-cheekbones:

They need to scrap the idea of making The Vampire Chronicles into any more movies and just do a TV show called The Vampire Lestat on HBO or Showtime, or whatever. They can start with the second book, The Vampire Lestat (obvi), for season 1-Lestat’s origin, how he was turned, Nicholas, Marius, Louis, etc etc and see how it goes from there. There’s so much material, a 2 hour movie just isn’t enough for the characters or the storylines.

Yeah, and I’d be happy with a very freely adapted version of the books, a la what Hannibal does with Thomas Harris’s work. It could tell a lot of the same storylines without having to work its way through the books as written one by one, and they could play around a lot with inserting flashbacks as and when they wanted to either add new material or make the clunkier moments of storytelling in the books more concise. 

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cloudsinvenice:

belladonnaq:

Sweet Jesus I found these while lost in the weird part of the Internet and almost choked to death.

Oh my god remarried THERE’S A WHOLE SET OF THESE!!!

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cloudsinvenice:

duendology:

Am I the only one who saw Lestat, Louis, and Claudia in that “One Unfulfilled Idea of Family” in Hannibal, Will, and Abigail? Or am I just one of those helpless cases of VCians who can easily find reference to VC just anywhere and everywhere? 0_o

It’s definitely not just you. I know I’ve talked to adirotynd and wicked-felina about this very phenomenon. There’s a hell of a lot of common ground between the VC and Hannibal: perverse yet more-intense-than-anything-ever intimacy based on mutual experience of (committing) violence; heightened sensuality; a fine line between black comedy and high-flown philosophy… and then of course Hannibal is in itself a fanfic-like remix of the Thomas Harris canon, which is interesting to look at, considering the fanon that has grown up around the VC over the years.

I was surprised-yet-not-surprised when I found out that Bryan Fuller was a huge IWTV fan growing up – there’s a Nerdist podcast in which he describes how, at the age of 13, he phoned Anne Rice because he wanted to work on the IWTV screenplay. The story is a gem and starts about 32 minutes in, but the whole thing is really great:

http://nerdistwriters.libsyn.com/bryan-fuller

Edit: basically what I’m saying is, if you’re a VC fan who can handle looking at gore, there is a very good chance that Hannibal will be right up your street. Meanwhile, if you are a Hannibal fan who enjoys historical settings and can cope with a canon that gets increasingly bizarre as the series progresses, you might find a happy home in VC fandom. Hey, I like to matchmake.

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Can I spoil your fantasy?

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duendology:

cloudsinvenice:

duendology:

Now I just had this thought. Or a vision without revelation as the line goes… Wait, not a thought, a familiar character. It was Lestat from Interview with the Vampire. He was mean as fuck and cruel even more. I saw him feeding on one of these “lovelies” who justified and absolved him of all his monstrosity because such big and forgiving is the love of a fan, who sees him and understands him… And in this weird vision he was not like James Bond of all vampires, no. He was no Prince either. He was Hannibal Lecter of all vampires….

And I liked that….

And the thing is, it’s as likely as anything else. In QotD Lestat tells us his fantasy of visiting that fan, but the fact he stops before the end allows him to seduce the reader without having to complicate the story with a disturbing ending. In TVL and TTotBT, though, we see him feed on innocence and love it. I think you hit on a very important truth in this idea that Lestat could just as easily bury himself in a fan’s forgiving love – after all, when he does terrible things, he’s counting on the forgiveness and forbearance of those around him (and sometimes, like when he burns Louis’s shack and Marius is Not Amused, it goes very wrong)…

Mmm, yes. One more thing I’d like to add. Let’s forget for a moment it’s a piece of fiction, and so is vampire. Fans tend to forgive Lestat almost everything because he’s Lestat. No? Even the fact he’s a vampire is viewed as his asset and certainly adds much to the general appeal of this character. From the literary point of view, because it’s vampire/horror (supposedly) genre too, it’s understandable. And the irony is we should stand wary, skeptical, and cautious when faced with the creature that, yes, it feels, thinks, sings and dances too, and used to be human even, but the bottom line is… the creature eats us, it’s a serial killer. I find it fascinating. Interestingly enough, Lestat himself in TOTBT warns us not to trust him, not to fall for the image he created himself of himself in his books. He is a killer. His words are smooth, but he’s a killer…  I’ve never forgotten that. It’s a subtle yet most powerful warning ever, yet it seems a reader can’t refuse the general romanticism of the books and characters, and of the way the vampires philosophize about the world and humanity, so – one by one – readers are seduced, sometimes against the human basic survival instinct. And yes, it’s fiction, it’s a seduction readers can allow themselves. Yet, there’s a deeper thing to consider and it’s this general notion or belief that someone who speaks so beautifully and feels so much can’t do me harm, right?  *winks*

So, yes, thank you, Lestat, for teaching me one of the most important lessons in and about life…

“And the irony is we should stand wary, skeptical, and cautious when faced with the creature that, yes, it feels, thinks, sings and dances too, and used to be human even, but the bottom line is… the creature eats us, it’s a serial killer.”

VC: Daniel Molloy & The Reference of Ruth 1:16

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cloudsinvenice:

aflyingmotorbike:

cloudsinvenice:

kissingandsnugglingdeadthings:

Warning; I’m about to wax at length about a
Daniel thing in Prince Lestat.
I’m probably “interrogating the text from the wrong perspective”, but so be it!
😀

So I’m poking my way through Prince Lestat again, because I
cannot resist squeezing every last bit of interesting detail out of any of the
Chronicles that has to do with Daniel, and I couldn’t resist taking a good long
look at this particular bit because I was also made to suffer four years of
seminary during my late teens, so any chance to use that knowledge for
something I actually enjoy is occasionally entertaining for this heathen.

The line from Prince Lestat I’ve been
pondering the last day or so:

Prince Lestat: He
and Daniel had to leave Brazil. This was a safe place no longer. Daniel said he
understood. “Whither thou goest, I go,”
he had said.

This is, of course, a partial quote from The
Old Testament which is full is:

Ruth 1:16: And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to
return from following after thee: for whither
thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people
shall be my people, and thy God my God

With the last name Molloy,
it’s obvious that Daniel is of Irish descent, and so it seems to have become a
fairly consistent fan belief over the years (based on the fic and discussions
out there) that Daniel was likely raised in a Catholic environment. Personally,
this quote just cemented that fan-canon thought for me even more, and with that
in mind, it really added a new layer of depth to what Daniel is saying here.

I know it’s also been
speculated post Blood And Gold
that Daniel is in a situation he has little or no control over, being left or
taken into Marius’ care. That somehow he’s become a ‘lackey’ or he’d become a low-level
replacement for Those Who Must Be Kept. I know because I was a party of that
fan-camp of thought for quite some time. So believe me, this is a really big 180° for me to be taking.

It’s become clear in Prince Lestat that Daniel has
come back to his senses, but this particular line seems to also establish that
Daniel has remained and continues to remain with Marius of his own volition. His reference of The Book of Ruth is a pretty
subtle but clear indication that he’s accepted his companion and wants to
remain at his side. Wherever Marius goes, he’s going, and where Marius chooses
to live, that’s where Daniel will live.

It also adds an additional
potential layer of Daniel’s mindset toward Armand. In the Bible, Ruth
chooses to stay with her mother-in-law, Naomi, instead of going home to her
family, hence the famous quote. I can’t help but wonder if Daniel’s also subtly
referencing that even though Armand isn’t dead in the literalist of senses,
their relationship is. That of course also begs the question if he then thinks of Marius in a ‘familiar, paternal kind of way’ but I’m not going there right now. That’ll be for another time.

I am flailing so hard right now because I’ve wondered about that line and I love you to death for drawing this out and pointing out its implications in the context of Daniel-as-Catholic, and the relevance of the passage to Daniel’s situation. 

Personally I got the feeling that Marius was doing some recovery of his own, and that possibly Daniel is staying with him for the time being because he’s needed, and Marius has done a lot for him. That’s not to say that I disagree entirely about his thinking re:Armand, I do think their reunion in PL is probably the first since Daniel ‘went mad’. So he wouldn’t have any particular reason to think they could pick their relationship back up, but he still seems pretty eager to go to Trinity and see everyone – and if going to Trinity meant ‘seeing the ex’ I think we could expect slightly more mixed feelings on Dan’s part? So while I do think he’s definitely staying with Marius by his own choice at this point, I guess I’m not sure about the finality of it. (But this post is really awesome and I love it.)

Yeah, I like the idea that the relationship (whether it’s just paternal or romantic) between Marius and Daniel has been therapeutic on both sides. I think that because neither made the other there’s a lack of pressure, and they were living together at what was clearly a very difficult time for both of them. 

We get very little from Daniel’s POV in BaG but I suspect that for every one of Daniel’s worst moments as described by Marius, Daniel has also watched Marius spend an entire night just staring at the wall, or constantly putting an order for paint in an Amazon basket and then deleting it, putting it in and deleting it…

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merciful-death:

cloudsinvenice:

merciful-death:

ooc; vcpositivity is literally my favorite blog on this site.  Everyone should go send in a submission about someone who’s been great to them, or some nice experience they had, something cool.

There’s enough anon hate on Tumblr.

Excellent point. I avoid drama but even if what I do hear about is all that’s going on, then it’s already too much. Vampires may live forever but we do not; life is too short for that crap when we could be focusing on the people and things that make this fandom great. 

ooc; Yeah, exactly.

^Preach.