Rutger Hauer is Lestat

cloudsinvenice:

duendology:

Today Facebook played “I know what you did last spring summer” and reminded me what I did on May 29th but 4 years ago. I am  so grateful…

 Ok and this is what I did. Honestly, I completely forgot about it. And yes, nothing has changed in this department…

BUT let’s make something clear…Tom Cruise was brilliant as Lestat. 😉

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I  reposted this status on my wall, because of course I  got nostalgic and I am lestatized heavily. We had a lovely conversation with friends there. 

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It PAINS me that Rutger Hauer didn’t play Lestat back then. Just look at him, god damn. *thousand-yard stare*

^Agreed. VERY PAIN. Forever mourn that Rutger Hauer was too old when they were finally ready to make IWTV. The book came out in ‘76, and the movie languished in production hell until it finally started filming in ’93-’94 and like afg;huljl;!?kflifiimsfifghtl! *strangled anguish noises* 

Travis Fimmel also has a lot of Lestatuesque potential in him… Even Stuart Townsend did the best he could with the trainwreck he was given (who do I blame his accent on? Probably the director). At least Townsend had the right build, I’ll give him that. It’s another tough thing to achieve; Lestat would have been athletically muscular from all the running and hunting in the Auvergne, and then the acrobatics in Paris. Not a bodybuilder level of muscular. Plus he was like 21, remember.

BUT! YES! let’s make something clear…Tom Cruise was brilliant as Lestat. 😉

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anaryawe:

cloudsinvenice:

anaryawe:

when you really want to draw but vampire …human anatomy refuses to work for you and you just sort of think for two hours what kind of shoes they’d wear in different eras.

When I get totally stuck I just use them as an excuse to draw different historical clothing. I should do that again; I haven’t drawn the vampires forever (or much else) because my confidence is crap. :S

Yes, that is exactly what I’m doing!  Also – they’re a good excuse to google a lot of scantily clad skinny men and draw. For the sake of practice. 

I’ve only recently got into drawing them at all so it’s all still sort of taking shape. But yes you should – drawing clothes is so much fun and there’s never too much VC fan art around! 

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

interviewed-the-vampire:

i-want-my-iwtv:

interviewed-the-vampire:

I dont think were actually going to get new TVC movies

Maybe, maybe not. I didn’t think we’d ever get a new book and here we are even though it was, as predicted, a raging pile of crazy. The biggest fan and pusher of a new VC movie is actually Mater. For realz.

But the movies would be a big pile of butts

piles of butts can be good, too…

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Looks like it’s time for the comeback of Prince Lestat’s comeback album:

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HELL YES IT IS. Featuring tracks:

  • Louis I Brung You les Fleurs (Let Me Love You)
  • I Will Always Love You, Louis (And a Few Other People TBH)
  • Armand Is a Little Shit But He’s My Dark Bro, Not Gonna Lie
  • My Buttons (Stop Staring at Them)
  • Be Still: I Be Goin ta Drain You Now Ta the Very Threshold of Dirtnap (Feat. Jay-Z)
  • I’m Dreaming of a Bloody Xmas
  • Don’t Frick-frack with the Queen of the Damned (Feat. Eminem)
  • Kids of Dark’ness Will Be Kids of Dark’ness
  • You’ve Been a Naughty, Naughty Lil’ Girl (Feat. Britney Spears)

i-want-my-iwtv:

viaticumforthemarquise:

americachavez:

do you ever read a fic that is so much better than the actual canon that you get angry

Welcome to the Vampire Chronicles fandom, my friends. 

#vampire chronicles #//basically fan fic is how we survive #//if you think I’m exaggerating you aren’t one of us #ooc

#TRUTH

adirotynd:  #tvc #fandom woes #fanfiction means never having to say ‘tarquinn blackwood’

Why everybody hate benji? I need valid reasons!!

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

Um… so many reasons… and I haven’t read that book in awhile so I’m not the best resource for this. The fandom tends to hate on Benji bc:

  • He’s a shameless Gary Stu
  • He’s a child, maybe 12? Marius knows better (without spoiling anything, I’ll leave it at that).
  • He smokes (not a character FLAW per se, but it seemed to be a cheap way to make him look “tough kid” or whatever)
  • Emotionally/intellectually he’s flawless! He’s such an angelic person! He can do no wrong! Such characters are inherently unlikable maybe bc we can’t suspend disbelief for someone so PURE OF HEART. 
  • The way he talks seems oddly teenage? I remember someone saying that as a complaint.

Mostly we hate him because (and this can all be applied to Sybelle equally) of his existence, how he came into Armand’s life, and what happened to him seemed wildly out of the VC universe and out of character for everyone involved.

Here have some fanart:

Co-existing by luizagm2

It’s also the handling of race and race relations, I think. Benji is literally a 12-year-old Arab child that Sybelle’s abusive, controlling brother bought to be a companion to Sybelle. The family had been visiting the Holy Land when the parents got killed in a car crash, and so Sybelle was depressed and wouldn’t play the piano (she was a concert pianist and her brother was isolating and exploiting her like Colonel Parker on steroids). He got Benji to look after Sybelle, and engineer her behaviour, knowing Sybelle would do as Benji asked (i.e. look after herself, play the piano), and he hit Benji anyway. 

It’s hard to explain the clumsiness of the writing, but it’s like… there’s this patina of attempts at evocative detail re: Benji’s clothing and the references he makes, but essentially the book sets up this situation where the quirky Arab kid gets bought by rich white Americans, and that’s bad because the situation is abusive, but then Armand saves them from the evil brother, so then everything’s YAY! And Benji’s such a funny little character!

I’d put it down to Anne Rice being kind of poor at handling gritty “realistic” modern situations (especially since the entire existence of Sybelle and Benji, and their entire circumstances, are there purely because she needed to retcon a character death away), and shoehorning them into her very heightened, stylised, dark fairytale, mostly historical books. So Benji having apparently been bought is talked off in hushed tones like Sybelle knows it’s a bad thing, but nobody seems very concerned to look into his origins or try and put him in touch with his family or anything. I mean, this is a kid who’s been taken across international borders illegally, presumably with fake papers! And now he lives with Sybelle and it’s all quirky and funny how he smokes like a chimney and goes out in the middle of the night in New York City and somehow this is all just… charcaterful! And okay, because he’s happy with Sybelle and Armand!

To be fair, a lot of this is basic Anne Rice tropes: a poor or ordinary child gets swept up by someone rich and given all the education/resources/stuff money can buy, and they are super-happy together and it’s a beneficial arrangement for both parties. Her books have a ton of this rags-to-riches stuff. But I think what makes it unsettling is when she crosses a cultural and racial border, with all the inherent echoes of slavery and colonialism that entails…

Not, please understand, that I love Benji no less. It’s only that I haven’t the same overwhelming protective feeling for him. I know that Benji will live out a great and adventurous life, no matter what should befall me or Sybelle, or even the times. It’s in his flexible and enduring Bedouin nature. He is a true child of the tents and the blowing sands, though in his case, the house was a dismal cinder block hovel on the outskirts of Jerusalem where he induced tourists to pose for overpriced pictures with him and a filthy snarling camel.

He’d been flat out kidnapped by Fox under the felonious terms of a long-term lease of bondage for which Fox paid Benji’s father five thousand dollars. A fabricated emigration passport was thrown into the bargain. He’d been the genius of the tribe, without doubt, had mixed feelings about going home and had learnt in the New York streets to steal, smoke and curse, in that order. Though he swore up and down he couldn’t read, it turned out that he could, and began to do so obsessively just as soon as I started throwing books at him.

In fact, he could read English, Hebrew and Arabic, having read all three in the newspapers of his homeland since before he could remember.

He loved taking care of Sybelle. He saw to it that she ate, drank milk, bathed and changed her clothes when none of these routine tasks interested her. He prided himself on the fact that he could by his wits obtain for her whatever she needed, no matter what happened to her.”

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

from Anne Rice’s FB page (8/7/14):

“Do you think that I, as an author, should have a press agent who controls and ultimately filters every public utterance I make? Should this page reflect only statements by me which have been approved and packaged by a press agent? Should all the public utterances of authors be controlled by press agents? —- Think what this would mean for this page. No more spontaneous conversational posts, no more immediate reactions to news stories brought to the page, offering them to others for comment; no more immediate and spontaneous reactions to current events; no more up to the moment participation in debates and discussions; and no more answering of questions every day and all during the day. Would this be a good thing? Is this what you want? —— I’m asking because some one seriously suggested this to me yesterday (in an Amazon Forum Discussion). I (and all authors) should be controlled by press agents. The person seemed to be perfectly sincere, and neither cynical nor disingenuous. The person said she was trying to “help” me. The person advised me that I was a “brand” and that I was damaging my brand. Of course this person obviously didn’t approve of the things I was saying in the Forum discussion, but the larger point seemed to be that authors should not make controversial statements publicly at all, that it is not appropriate for them to do so, that all communication from authors should be filtered properly by others and controlled. The person apparently believes authors are not competent to judge their public utterances on their own. And there was the implication that once authors become known, they forfeit the prerogative or privilege of open and spontaneous participation in public forums. ——- Well, I think you know what I think about this, and I think you know that this page is in no danger of becoming the packaged utterances of a brand. But I would sincerely like to know what you think, and what sort of communication you value with the authors whom you personally read.”

I actually enjoy reading her questions and opinions on things, even if I don’t agree with them. It’s intriguing, for better or worse. 

Same here. I have to wonder whether in this case someone was responding to some old Amazon rant-type thing. And regardless of the hair-tearing frustration of a lot of stuff she’s said, overall I do think she gains as many readers as she loses from her web presence – perhaps more, since the non-fannish readers (i.e. not those hit by her legal attacks/au fait with the Amazon rant etc.) will exist in higher numbers than the fannish ones. So the person may have been wrong and right at the same time…

^Agreed on all points. Maybe it was someone anticipating AR’s explosive rebuttals rational and careful responses to the upcoming terrible and offensive rational and careful reviews of Prince Lestat. 

Am I the only one who actually liked Tom Cruise as Lestat..? I see a lot of people in the fandom claiming Townsend did much better and I don’t see it—at all. I honestly hated Townsend as Lestat, all he did was sit pretty…

cloudsinvenice:

i-want-my-iwtv:

The short answer is that I think the majority of the VC fandom preferred Cruise ;D

Compare:

A) Cruise was Lestat. Even in this production still he was Lestat. 

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B) Townsend going for like bratty!Lestat:

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(by textsfromthevampire ^This meme actually works in reference to Lestat and Stuart Townsend AS Lestat.)

The long answer is:

I didn’t hate Townsend. I don’t like to throw hate on actors for their acting (except James Franco, lol). I’d say ST did the best he could with what he was given. His failure as Lestat was a group effort (makeup, costume, script writer, dialogue coach, director, editor, sfx, etc. all had a hand in what we got on the screen) much as Cruise’s success was a group effort (wherein all those things previously mentioned came together so perfectly).

The actor is one part of the machine in creating that character. The failure or success of the character can ultimately be placed on the director since s/he’s the one who coordinates and makes all the aesthetic choices for the entire film. 

Agreed. I think that with a decent script and a different approach, we might never have had the kind of group recoil from Townsend that we did. The thing about that movie is that there’s times when the aesthetics and atmosphere were really right (I still weep over Maharet’s house, or the deleted scenes’ original version of the intro), but more times when it bowed to the obvious attempt to make a commercial boy/girl/ancient vampire queen love triangle movie for a generation of teens who liked Aaliyah and/or Korn, which apparently was the only idea they could be arsed executing/move quickly enough on when they finally realised the rights were going to run out and needed exploiting. 

Jesus christ. It’s been TWELVE YEARS and, despite the mild affection I’ve weirdly developed for the movie (apparently just because it’s been around for so long, and mocked for so long, like an ugly family heirloom), apparently I still find it hard to talk about it without ranting. 😛

I can’t believe you’ve seen the deleted scenes, ffs! Impressive commitment there. It IS an ugle family heirloom. Like the butchering they did to the Lestat musical when it came to NY. Apparently it was a shell of the successful production they had going in San Francisco; much of the best was cut out as, I believe, it was deemed “too gay” for NY…

Agreed on all points that I can agree to, considering that I haven’t been able to sit through the whole movie. From what I’ve seen, it’s enough torment. 

Korn was the band of choice then, as far as “Not safe for public consumption, it’s pure corruption of the innocents!” music at the time, along with Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, and Tool… definitely some others I’m neglecting, but maybe the producers went with Korn bc it was the only band willing to write songs for a movie in that way. NIN certainly had only dabbled in soundtracks at that time, as I recall, and they generally never play those songs (e.g. “the Perfect Drug”) live, for some reason. Maybe it’s a rights issue.

ANYWAY. I do think Townsend had a chance, and he did the best with what he was given. 

Vampire Chronicles, for @diplomacywink and @i-want-my-iwtv

cloudsinvenice:

  • Favourite Female: Pandora. But this is really hard because I also want to say Gabrielle. 
  • Favourite Male: Marius. 
  • 3 Other Favourite Characters: Lestat, Gabrielle (yay!), 
  • 3 OTPs: Pandora/Marius, Lestat/Daniel, and also Eric/Santino because I’ve been reading old fics and now I have all the feelings. 
  • Notp: Lestat/whoever the plot revolved around in that book. It has just never been known to end well. 
  • Funniest character: Mael is just always very funny to me. He would hate that, which increases the funny. 
  • Prettiest character: Armand. The fan art cannot lie. 
  • Most Annoying Character: Sybelle and Benji. They’re a unit. 
  • Most badass character: Lestat. Credit where credit’s due. 
  • Character I’d like as my BFF: Marius. I think I’d want the book-borrowing rights and the philosophical conversations, but as a husband he’d be controlling and patronising and occasionally turn up with random people from a thousand years ago going, “We can be an OT3 now, is that cool? It’ll be cool!”
  • Female Character I’d Marry: I feel like Eleni would be an awesome person to be married to. And we could run a theatre together, this time without the killing. Well, maybe we could lure bad people to performances and kill them. 
  • Male Character I’d Marry: Daniel. The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Lestat would be the worst husband ever; Louis and I would have one of those polite marriages arranged by parents for financial/bloodline/land reasons in Regency novels, in which we don’t really dare find out whether or not we disagree about things or what we want in bed; Marius’s faults have been covered and Armand… well, Armand is too young, forever, but also, HE EXPERIMENTS WITH BLENDERS. Whereas I think Daniel just has a healthy sense of humour about the inherent ridiculousness of being a vampire, and something in his perspective would always stay human and curious and not get overwhelmed by all that portentous shit the others tend to drown themselves in. Also, I would be so into helping him build miniature landscapes. 
  • Character I hate/dislike/least like: Sybelle and Benji are tied here.

These answers are priceless and hard to disagree with *u*

Also I agree, Mael is unintentionally amusing and he WOULD hate that anyone thinks so. He has this earnestness and rageness, just always on the edge of (and threatening to be) breaking out a can of whoopass. Like a perpetually PMSing Thor, maybe.