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marius-de-romanus:

ooc: btw this is p random but i felt the need to voice my opinion so if you’re not interested feel free to ignore it!!

See, I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about Marius’ personality, not only here, but among good part of VC fans who I’ve came across in the past regarding his book Blood and Gold. I would like to point some things that I find important and that maybe would help you to have a second thought about it.

I reblogged from the source and cut it for length, but give this a read, this is very well-said, and applicable to many of the problematic characters in the VC.

They were human once, they’re not perfect creatures. I think if there was one message AR really wanted us to take away from the entirety of canon, it would probably be: These characters are like us, imperfect, searching for answers, longing to belong, to love, and be loved in return.

Some choices made in pursuit of those things are impulsive, some are well-planned, some had terrible results in retrospect, but hindsight is 20/20. We can only learn from the past and try to make better choices, moving forward… ask for forgiveness for our trespasses and strive to forgive those who trespassed against us ❤

marius-de-romanus:

When I read Blood and Gold for the first time, I felt a slight emptiness, and that familiar feeling of disappointment in the pit of my stomach after knowing closely some of his choices and attitudes – and more than that; his true persona, after all. But after a while thinking about it, I realized that no matter how wrong he was by some of his choices, each one of them made who he truly is: selfish, yes, but compassionate, an artist, melancholic, and undoubtedly proud, but good and gentle at heart.

He is far from being perfect even though we enjoyed to believe that he was due to numerous descriptions we had of him in TVA, TVL, QOTD and Pandora. But he isn’t. He commits mistakes as everyone else, and if we were to compare him to Louis, Lestat and Armand, for example, judging by all the years that Marius is alive, I honestly don’t think his mistakes were so numerous. Some of them were intense, and most of them regrettable, yes, but I do not think that makes him a “bad character” or that he is any less of what Lestat, Pandora, Armand, etc, describe in their respective books.

Only because he was described by many as a “sage”, a “philosopher”, etc, it doesn’t change the fact that before he was turned, he was also a human. And Marius, in my opinion, is one of the most “human” vampires among the coven. His mistakes were in it’s majority also ridiculously human, being driven by the impulse of his emotions.

So I think that instead of focusing only on the bad things, you also should remember how wonderful his good side is. How loving, caring, compassionate, intelligent and cultured Marius is. 

Marius was not the only one to commit mistakes. And it is good that he did because it’s a nice reminder that not even “immortal beings” are perfect, no matter how godlike they appear to be.

Therefore, my point is: instead of simply judging and saying that he is a shitty character because he was not what you thought he was, give it a second thought. No one is made only by their good sides, nor by their mistakes alone.

To like him or dislike him is personal, though. Yet, to say that his character sucks only because you don’t like it…. it’s hella stupid and makes me hella pissed.

Are Daniel and Marius in a romantic relationship? Because I’ve been under the impression Daniel was romantically involved with Armand. (And even though Armand has a history with Marius, he’s more so involved with Daniel????) I’m so confused. Please help.

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It depends where your headcanon stops in canon. If you accept all of canon, according to Anne Rice, “Daniel

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Marius love each other very much” in Prince Lestat. daniel-james-molloy asked Anne Rice that question explicitly and was answered without a definitive Yes or No:

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Yes, Daniel was romantically involved with Armand in QotD; Armand is Daniel’s maker. So if your headcanon stops at that book, then they are still a couple.

Armand was romantically involved with Marius in TVA and B&G; Marius is Armand’s maker. 

Other people might accept all of canon, so for them, Daniel/Marius might be a real ship. They’re living together. Armand is living elsewhere with other vampires. 

But the vampire couple in Only Lovers Left Alive live apart and still love each other deeply, so it all depends on what your own headcanon of what a ship is. Can it survive long-distance? Can it survive polyamory? Does it have to be monogamous? 

These are the real questions 😉

Ricean vampire asexuality

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inesbc2001 asked: 

Hi, so I’m dying to know what the VC Tumblr fandom thinks about vampire sexuality.

IMO the fact that vampires don’t have sex doesn’t necessarily make them asexual.

I’m thinking about Marius with Amadeo in Blood and Gold, and Louis with the mortal boy in Paris.

There is a passage in IWTV that goes roughly like this: “He pressed his whole body against my legs and I felt the firm strength of his sex under his clothes. A moan escaped from my lips…”

– I translated this myself from the Spanish version, but you get the idea 😉

I’d be thrilled to further discuss vampire sexuality.

That’s all, keep up the good work! 🙂

#Your headcanon may vary.

So I’ve discussed this topic at length in my tags for it: #asexuality, #asexual, #sex, #sexuality, #lets talk about sex.

It all depends on your idea of what sex is, but Anne Rice has been definitive about it:

The scene that you mention between Louis and the mortal boy: Louis is still capable of finding that boy’s hard on to be arousing, but he’s getting alot of sensory input in that moment, and Armand is probably manipulating him psychologically, too.

Marius/Amadeo: Amadeo is mortal and experiencing things differently than Marius is.

I’ll open this to discussion, what are your opinions/headcanon on Ricean vampire sexuality?

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vagabonddaniel:

merciful-death:

ooc; For anyone that wondered, this was a thing on her Facebook today.  Both the vampires not having sex and the Daniel & Marius bit.

//Awww. That’s sweet. (Not sarcastic. It is.) I definitely got the impression they cared very much for each other in PL. I still don’t read it as a romantic relationship. I don’t know it, it just doesn’t feel that way to me in the text. But I can see it being a very loving and intimate relationship. If it gets passionate, though, I see there being problems, given that Marius is so controlling and Daniel does not like being controlled. Will be interesting to see how this goes in Blood Paradise. 

I do hope Armand and Daniel reconnect in some meaningful way (which doesn’t have to be at the expense of Dan’s relationship with Marius, whatever that is – I contend they’re not very monogamous creatures anyhow). But really, I just want to see them TALK, goddamn it. Nod at each other. SOMETHING. 

#want #I want this bc of reasons

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interviewed-the-vampire:

daniel-james-molloy:

duendology:

daniel-james-molloy:

//OOC: Yeah, so here’s actual the question I asked on Facebook AND the response, for those interested, since there’s a version going around without the question. Never actually asked about sex just the depth of the relationship, but Anne does usually throw that in during ship questions. (I still apply fanon logic since Ursula banged Vittorio in his book. Discrepancies, love it for fic and RP reasons.)

Yeah.. well, we all read PL, right? In this book EVERYONE loves EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in  EVERY moment EVER mentioned! So yeah, of course that Marius loves Daniel. It does not confirm anything.

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And sex. Didn’t Lestat say in QOTD that his johnson was like priapus ready for something that could never been performed anymore? Not with pleaure that is. So, well, technically, penetration is possible…but orgasm through that? Nah…

merciful-death said: ooc; Didn’t post the full question because I didn’t want to show disrespect by posting your real name on Tumblr. I apologize.

Yeah, I’d have done the same, Merciful “D”. 😉

//OOC: It was never explicitly stated in PL that Daniel reciprocated feelings for Marius, which is why I asked. With Anne’s response, now we know. Again, the point of this question was the ship, not sex, but the fandom seems incapable of enjoying the happy parts of anything without someone having a fit.

The Vampire Chronicles: If you shipped it, it was or will be canon at some point. The ship whore’s delight.

#ship and let ship

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interviewed-the-vampire:

antoineandthepiano:

AR Concerning Blood Paradise – Louis and Lestat. 

OOC; So I found this on Anne’s Facebook page. It was so amusing, but I have to agree. I love the wedding description she wrote for her fans [wedding des.]. It was fun and adorable, and keeping within context with the historical ruling in the US. I agree with her on this one and just her general positive attitude towards Lestat. It’s so easy to criticize him. Lestat he doesn’t make it easy. I get that.

AR: “Please, let’s be optimistic. Allow my Brat Prince some hope!” – I have a sneaking suspicion that it was just Lestat posing as AR.

The last comment gets me whiningforcenturies this was us yesterday….WAS IT NOT? WHERE IS THE LIE THO? Post from last night.

“Anne, please, A girl can only cry so many happy tears in one night.”

^I’m pissing myself laughing because the comment about how you can only cry so many happy tears in one night was me.

#VC Wedding Hysteria 2K15

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#Your headcanon may vary #Ship and let ship

So, I’m not going to throw in my “Why fight eachother?” “When you can all love me together!” gifset w/ our fandom’s lead character, because that’s sugarcoating when gently #-swats with newspaper (thanks cup-of-lixx​!), is so much more appropriate. A gentle swat! 

Was this about the potential wedding of fictional vampires? I think that is the topic on which this conflict started. There were opinions on that and people felt that contrary opinions maligned their own. I think it’s worth analyzing why, so that when this happens again (IT WILL) we can all react a little more peaceably. Hit the “Keep reading…” for that.

Basically: serious aggressive discussions happen in every field, every fandom, every topic that exists. That’s part of Real Life. The word “fandom” doesn’t guarantee that everyone who likes what you like will have the same opinion about it, or that they will even like YOU.

I think we can all agree that we all care about these characters, and we all want to see them treated properly in canon.

Specifically about the wedding:

Anne Rice offered some plot points and ideas about a possible wedding between her characters occurring in the next VC installment. Opinions here seemed to divide into:

1. OMG this is awesome! Show me the fluffy ❤ Let’s talk about the venue, let’s get *~David Tutera~* in here, ‘stat! I’m so so happy that my ship will be officially validated in canon, I mean, finally, no one can call them “just friends” if they’re actually MARRIED <3<3<3 I JUST LOVE THESE CHARACTERS AND WANT WHAT’S BEST FOR THEM.

2. UGH this is so lame! This is a mortal convention and is it really applicable to immortal non-human beings? Plus which, marriage isn’t for everyone (especially creatures who have difficulty with monogamy *cough cough* LESTAT who falls in love at lease once in every book *cough*) so why must it be forced into OUR series? Is it fanservice? Should authors do fanservice, even at the expense of writing out-of-character? I JUST LOVE THESE CHARACTERS AND WANT WHAT’S BEST FOR THEM.

From what I gathered, it appeared that these two very contrasting opinions led to:

  • Group 1 people feeling that Group 2 people were shitting on their enthusiasm, and
  • Group 2 people feeling that Group 1 people were being shallow and treating this series like cheap romance, in which no one can really be happy unless they’re married off at the end.

Whether or not either group is “right,” we all have our own way of engaging with it. Whether finding it an escape from reality and a source of joy and squee, or finding it a packed mystery worth examining with a critical eye, and everything in between.

Not everyone is leaving. No one needs to leave. The fandom isn’t full of these serious aggressive discussions, they happen occasionally. The internet/tumblr is big enough for everyone. 

#Your headcanon may vary #Ship and let ship

I absolutely ADORE the way you put time and effort into answering all the asks you get, especially how in depth you go to explain something. <3

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AsjfGHulds!!? YOU SWEET CINNAMON ROLL *collapses*

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Messages like this make it all worth it *u* I’m always honored that people want my opinion, and I do really try to support it with canon or fanon. 

Of course, #your headcanon may vary, and #ship and let ship. I know some ppl are very defensive of their headcanons, so always take my opinions as that – MY opinions. If you want to accept some headcanons, cool, if not, also cool ;]