I tried to be very thorough regarding names and makers. The unknown branch bothers me the most, and if anyone knows where those Vampires started from, please let me know. Also I’m not 100% sure on all of Rhosh’s fledglings, though from a few sources I think that’s all his named ones.
If you would like to correct anything or add anyone canon, PLEASE send me a message, even on anon. The more eyes I can have on this the better.
Of course this is updated through Prince Lestat, so spoilers for character names and makers.
Colors refer to gender, though I’m unsure of Petronia, who is technically a hermaphrodite, and Eleni and Eugenie. Again, please message me for any changes/clarifications!
You can click the images to make them a little clearer/bigger.
@roselioncourt‘s VC family tree is a work of staggering beauty.
You probably wanted a REAL answer, but I don’t want to spoil ya. Hit the jump for spoilation.
(For headcanons and to talk to a Viktor RPer, go to @viktor-de-lioncourt (who uses Jordan Sörbom as a FC) or @roselioncourt, both of whom care quite a lot more than I do about this character.)
Viktor is Lestat’s biological son, created during the course of Prince Lestat. In the mid-90s (I think?) Lestat had encountered some vampire doctor/scientists (they are vampires trained in and interested in the study of vampirism, running a lab just for that) and they *ahem* collect a biological sample from Lestat, with his full compliance.
HOWEVER, without his consent or knowledge, they use his sample to make baby Viktor! Baby Viktor has a mortal mother, so presumably, the DNA needed a little tinkering to make it work; Viktor is considered partially a clone, and in appearance he seems to be a carbon copy of Lestat (slightly taller, IIRC).
Lestat doesn’t know he fathered him until Viktor is no longer a baby (he’s at least 20?) and is used as a pawn in the shaking up of the vampiric matriarchy, so to speak. Father and son get reunited, everybody’s happy.
It’s unclear whether Lestat is also Viktor’s vampiric maker, he had asked Marius to be involved, and we might get more specifics in the next VC, Blood Paradise.
Louis is always Lestat’s fave, tho! We all know that.
It was like waking from a nightmare, a terrible dream that plagued her, but instead of waking alone, she was with her coven. Her family. Family. After all those years alone, only seeing Lestat for a few nights at a time, she now had true family.
The blood had taken hold of her heart, changing her, transforming her. Rose looked to Viktor, as she was unable to see these changes on herself, she could see them take root in him. He complexion was paling, and he resembled his father a bit more, only in the sense that Viktor no longer looked human, but preternatural, as Lestat did. Still held by so many, her hand reached up to touch Lestat’s cheek, her look purely apologetic. Sorry that she hadn’t been strong enough to face her demons alone. The plan had been for Pandora and Marius to switch off with her and Viktor, giving them both blood, changing them together by feeding and drinking, the old way to make them strong. But she hadn’t been unable to survive the draining and drinking cycles, and now her mind would forever be locked to Lestat.
// The number one thing that bothers me about Rose’s story in PL is that she both swallows and has acid thrown on her face and neck, including her eyes, and is somehow healed perfectly by the magic of Vampire blood. I realize it is a supernatural story, and that I am able to suspend my disbelief to believe that Vampires are real in the story and that they fly and all the other stuff. And their blood has been proven to heal wounds, though it has its limits. It cannot regrow limbs or organs lost before the transformation.
So Rose, who is both blind and mute by the end of the ordeal, should not have been able to be healed with Blood. I feel like it’s AR’s way of making everything okay for her special Mary Sue Self Insert. After all, if her plan all along is to kill off two strong female characters by the end of the book, one whom happens to be blind, and the other mute, then of course the special snowflake won’t be disabled either.
I firmly believe I’ve read Rose’s chapters more times than anyone by this point, all in the name of perfecting her nonexistent character. What happens is I find a trait mentioned in one sentence or one line and extrapolating out that to her whole life. Now, the same could be said of many side characters in VC. But I still feel like the end to Rose’s story could have been far more interesting than what we were given.
#AGREES AGGRESSIVELY
Not specifically about the acid (bc I have not reread her sections i just can’t bring myself to revisit that entire book yet), but I think you’ve actually articulated here what I couldn’t, about why I still can’t find love in my heart for her, an entire year after the release of that book. It’s not just me being a cranky old Earlier Canon Was Better preacher! *sobs* Thank you, nodominion-mun. It took guts to actually put this out there.
♛Darling Rose! I really should keep it a surprise, but…
I’ll be the White Rabbit and Louis has agreed to be “Alec” in Wonderland. Genderbent version. Not that he doesn’t look stunning in a dress, but, it was a dream I had and I wanted to see it realized.
2013 will always stand out as a highlight for me, as I was going to be the popular thunder god Thor, and Louis was going to be Loki, but we had gone off into a darkened corner and… well… we emerged with swapped costumes. It happens ❤
Perhaps next year I’ll be the Big Bad Wolf if you’ll be my Little Red…
Ursula? You mean from the Little Mermaid? IDK, not my department! But she is a fabulous character and I would love to see someone try to play her as beautifully as she was in the movie. Pat Carroll voiced her SO WELL.
EDIT: Thanks to @nodominion and @luffenmeihn for alerting me: Anon was referring to Ursula from Vittorio. Ursula was Vittorio’s maker.
I’m still not the right person to ask bc I never really considered Vittorio to be a Vampire Chronicles story (even though it IS listed in the VC Wiki), bc it seemed to always be intended as a stand-alone story:
“I have, however, nothing whatsoever to do with the “Coven of the Articulate,” that band of strange romantic vampires in and from the Southern New World city of New Orleans who have regaled you already with so many chronicles and tales.
I know nothing of those heroes of macabre fact masquerading as fiction. I know nothing of their enticing paradise in the swamplands of Louisiana. You will find no new knowledge of them in these pages, not even, hereafter, a mention.”
So I don’t remember it well enough to cast it 😛 Maybe I should give it a reread.
I’ll open this to everyone else. Anyone have thoughts on this? And while you’re at it, cast Vittorio, too. Might as well!
I tried to be very thorough regarding names and makers. The unknown branch bothers me the most, and if anyone knows where those Vampires started from, please let me know. Also I’m not 100% sure on all of Rhosh’s fledglings, though from a few sources I think that’s all his named ones.
If you would like to correct anything or add anyone canon, PLEASE send me a message, even on anon. The more eyes I can have on this the better.
Of course this is updated through Prince Lestat, so spoilers for character names and makers.
Colors refer to gender, though I’m unsure of Petronia, who is technically a hermaphrodite, and Eleni and Eugenie. Again, please message me for any changes/clarifications!
You can click the images to make them a little clearer/bigger.
Hey, not overanalyzing! I love #vampire physiology, and this is a big topic in that. Fortunately, it’s an easy answer.
No, dead blood is not bad (as in lethally poisonous) to Ricean vampires. It just tastes like nasty old coffee *spits*
{{Oh Louis, bb, we know, it gets cold so quickly…}}
You’re right that movie!IWTV was not explicit on this, I will explain u a thing based on the movie & canon ;}
The rat blood: is just as drinkable as the whore lady’s blood in the crystal glass later on in the story (the rat is dead, but the lady is still alive, when their blood has been poured into glassware, and in neither scene are the vampires poisoned that way). Blood extracted from a body is not bad in itself, but it cools with the exposure to air, and cold blood tastes bad as I will explain under the cut. When a vampire feeds from the victim directly, there’s no air contact with the blood, and it stays – preferably – hot. More than that, there’s also the entire multi-sensual experience of the act of killing which is way more fun than just the consumption of the nutritional value of the blood.
Lethal/poisonous blood is not about the blood itself, but is about the moment of death of the victim: What Lestat warns Claudia about in Vampiring: 101 (and he warns Louis in the book, too) is that she must stop drinking before the victim’s heart stops, at least in the beginning, or else the victim could take her down with them in death. That’s more about the soul separating from its body at the moment of death. Older/stronger vampires can keep drinking and slurp the impact of the death down, too.
Hit the jump for canon stuff, spoilers in there…
In TVL: Lestat goes to Armand in Paris for help after Claudia and Louis try to assassinate him a second time, and Armand throws him in a locked cell with a dead mortal for dinner:
“Sometime in the dark, I discovered a mortal victim there. But the victim was dead. Cold blood, nauseating blood. The worst kind of feeding, lying on that clammy corpse, sucking up what was left.”
^So clearly dead blood is not bad in the sense of being poisonous, just icky 😛
AR answered the dead blood question at a booksigning ages ago, that dead blood is like “old coffee that’s sat out for awhile. Just distasteful.”
Lestat does say in the movie (and this is probably where the confusion about the supposed lethalness of dead blood comes from, too), “You let me drink *dead* blood?” and it might seem like he means that the deadness of it was the lethally poisonous aspect of it, when in actuality he knows he’s been drugged, it was the absinthe & laudanum combo that drugged him. Still, those drugs are not poisonous to a vampire; he asks to be put in his coffin like a mortal might want to be put to bed, to sleep it off.
Claudia did it to bring his defenses down so she had a chance at killing him. He couldn’t fend her off in that drugged state.
Who knows why director Neil Jordan didn’t clarify this, and why he had the line
“You let me drink *dead* blood?” My guess is that he wanted to underscore Claudia’s betrayal, she had made a “peace offering” that was actually a Trojan horse, designed to enter Lestat’s system and weaken him from within.
Which is really upsetting, especially from a daughter to a father. That moment when she convinces him she wants peace, he looks at her with the most tragic expression, as Amy Nicholson wrote in her book Tom Cruise: Anatomy of an Actor,
“When Claudia starts her assassination plot by bringing him a human gift, Cruise’s eyes show Lestat’s surprise that someone has finally done something nice for him for the first time in the film… In that moment, we realize that while Lestat is capable of love, he’s never been loved back.”
♛ You wonderful creature, you’ve always deserved it all and more, mon bijou *embraces and showers her with kisses*
High pitched giggles escaped her as Lestat showered her with kisses. They felt different than the kisses of her youth, and she knew now that he no longer had to restrain his immortal strength around her. “You are too much Lestat. How are you? Well I hope?”
♛ “Better now that I’m with you.” He nuzzled her nose with his, the way he’d done when she was a child. “Are you real? Or justmy daydream?” It was a silly old game, but how she had loved it long ago, improvising with such an idea, sometimes proudly claiming fairy lineage.
How different to hear her voice now, the laughter richer than in her youth, still retaining the same charming cadence. Sharpened with the blood. Her delighted facial expression raised the wisp of an image of her little girl face. It was too much, and not enough, so he lifted her up into his arms and twirled her in the air once, twice, with his face buried in her lush mane to conceal the tearing up. Her scent was mostly the same, berry-filled deserts
freshly baked, let to cool on a sill.
When he set her down again, he felt of her arms, her shoulders, flesh of my flesh. Strong she was. A fierceness in her eyes now that was not childlike at all. Challenging. She had not yet demonstrated her strength for him, and he was eager to see it.