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If Boone, et al, are *really* doing TVL as the first film, as you propose, then why not post THAT title page and let the world explode with joy, instead of indulging in a pointless mind-fuck?

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If they’re causing a pointless mind-fuck, I think it’s unintentional. They leak these pics and talk about the project now and then bc we’re all so frickin’ thirsty for it! I doubt they’re aiming to provoke any negativity towards an enormous and complex project that’s in its fetal stages.

[I’m not sure if you saw my thoughts on this very issue recently, if so, sorry to repeat myself, but this is what I wrote before re: the title, and I added a little extra]

First though, it’s possible that Josh Boone & Co. don’t want people to confuse this project with the musical!TVL. And IWTV is the more recognizable title to sell it on. They intend to make a trilogy and spinoff series, and in order to do that, they need to at least include some of the first book.

Just bc the cover of the script had “Interview with the Vampire” as the title for this project, that doesn’t mean he’s redoing that movie exactly. 

I think we’ll be getting the Interview with the Vampire Lestat, this time around. What a twist!

Boone has to incorporate at least some of Louis’ story, and then get the ending of it back on canon track, bc movie!IWTV ended w/ Lestat and Daniel driving off into the sunrise*. Lestat was basically giving Daniel the choice to join him.

Keep an eye on my #VC News tag, that’s where I keep updates on this.

*If that ship (Lestat/Daniel) were to sail, then alot of canon after that would have to be reworked. 

Also, as a side note, I’ve been seeing a lot of ppl commenting on these posts about the original movie!IWTV casting for Armand, hopeful that he’ll be more accurate to canon in this new installment.

I initially felt the same way about movie!IWTV’s Banderas!Armand, that he was so very wrong. But then I considered it further and came up w/ a lot of reasons (#Defending Antonio) to justify that casting, the biggest one being that I think AR merged Santino and Armand for that movie, for a number of reasons, to make the film more palatable to mainstream audiences in the 90’s. Keep in mind that this was a time when even discussing the AIDS crisis was a very controversial topic, and portraying “taboo” things like homosexuality had to be done carefully. Topics like that still require special handling, but they’re at least more prevalent in the media 20 yrs later.

Back to Banderas!Armand (or rather, Banderas!Santino) Another major reason might have been that if they had a teenage redhead seduce Louis, it could make Louis come across as a pedophile. Another taboo topic and even less acceptable to portray in the 90’s. In the book, Louis is seduced into leaving his beloved, who looked like a child, for another underage-looking character, despite his actual age being over 90 yrs old, and these two “love-interests” actual ages being around 65 and 400 yrs old, respectively. Claudia is his daughter in a way, and more than that, in a way… one instance was sort of passable but a second relationship like that in one film (the 100 yr sail of the Louis/Armand ship) might just be too much for mainstream audiences outside the fandom.

Hopefully, in the new movie, Boone & Co. can find a way to keep Armand canon-accurate, and not need to merge him w/ another character for mainstream audience acceptance.

So really, in movie!IWTV, it’s Santino you’re seeing there, with Armand’s name and job title ;] 

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For my birthday this year, the lovely @gairid sent me this spectacularly appropriate Dark Gift of the full set of the Adagio tea VC fandom blends [source], designed by @underhyll​*.  I had pined for the set but couldn’t choose which characters I wanted to drink from (hehehe), but having the whole set now, well, THEY ARE ALL DELICIOUS. 

And if you think I saved Lestat’s flavor for last, you are very wrong. He was up first, and his sweetness and bite were exactly right, very in character  ^,….,^

@gairid informs us that “Marius makes a lovely iced tea sweetened with honey,” I shall have to try that. He sounds like an ideal spring/summer flavor. Also, that “Louis is just gorgeous (which makes sense).” It does make sense! He very much is. “I agree about Lestat, too…crisp with a little snap to it!”

So far though, Louis is my favorite. Early grey, blackberry, and lavender. It’s smooth, wholesome with a touch of sweetness, almost like caramel. Must drink w/ a candle nearby, optional: while wearing Lestat’s thumb ring**

The contents in the tins are artful in their own natural way, so I took pics of mine. I love how the Louis blend is dark, the Lestat and Claudia blends flanking his are basically blonde! 

I’ll be posting reviews of the other flavors later 😉

*They may or may not be developing more character blends… !

**I’m looking for a jeweler who can make more of these thumb rings; I got mine at Hot Topic in the 90′s and it is pretty fragile, so I rarely wear it. Would love to redesign it out of more durable metal…

I had a thought earlier today. Lestat was the youngest of 7 brothers, and it is mentioned that he had nieces and nephews. So we can assume that most (if not all) of his brothers were married. Lestat is at least 21 in TVL and of courting age. Why do you think there wasn’t a mention of him being forced to court a young and wealthy woman, the Lioncourts certainly needed the money. Why wasn’t he in an arranged marriage/engaged? Why was there no mention of a plan to marry him off?? Thoughts??

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“I was the seventh son and the youngest of the three who had lived to manhood.” – TVL (all the quotes going forward are from TVL, too)

^Yep, he’s the 7th son. We can assume that the other two de Lioncourt men had kids, so in some combination they had fathered at least four kids, (hence the plural “nieces and nephews”) and whether that was bc one of them had all four or they had two each, etc., Lestat doesn’t specify, so we don’t know. 

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t think the de Lioncourts had access to any young and wealthy women, if they couldn’t find one for the eldest son, they probably wouldn’t be able to find one for the youngest, either :-

The short answer: 

  1. Attitude issues :[ – Lestat’s dad (and alot of others) thought Lestat was bonkers (didn’t seem to connect that beating him up practically every other Thursday had anything to do with that!)

  2. Lestat was broke af.
  3. And the family relied on Lestat for hunting their dinner. They couldn’t afford to lose him or let him burden himself w/ more mouths to feed bc u know he would have had like 17 kids let’s be real.
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As for Lestat’s marriageability:

1. Attitude issues :[

Lestat also had something of a major attitude going on about his existential crisis, so he wasn’t really on the best of terms w/ his father, who probably would have been the one to set in motion any plans to marry Lestat off.

“And in this unbearable state of agitation I commenced to do something I’d never done before. I turned to those around me and questioned them relentlessly.

‘But do you believe in God?” I asked my brother Augustin. “How can you live if you don’t!’ ”

… “You’re mad, you’ve always been mad!” [the Marquis] shouted. “Get out of this house! You’ll drive us all crazy.”

The village families probably thought Lestat was something of a bad egg, too, what w/ his trying to enter the priesthood at 12, and then doing a complete 180° by running off with the actor troupe at 17, and the crazy way he was acting, and harassing ppl. It probably didn’t go unnoticed in such a little town.

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2. He’s broke af:

“I had no claim to the title or the land, and no prospects. Even in a rich family, it might have been that way for a younger boy, but our wealth had been used up long ago. My eldest brother, Augustin, who was the rightful heir to all we possessed, had spent his wife’s small dowry as soon as he married her.”

^Lestat is broke af. Augustin was the eldest and would be the one to get the title when the Marquis kicked the bucket. 

Lestat has $0 to bring to a marriage, no title, no land, and no prospects (? I guess this is the word for assets of any kind). He doesn’t have much to sell himself ;n;

3. On the plus side… he was hot and he could hunt!

All Lestat really has are his Devastatingly Good Looks™

(he probably got the LION’S SHARE lol!), and his Particular Set of Skills™

(”I was the lord and the only lord anymore who could sit a horse and fire a gun,”).

Lestat was the family’s bread meat-winner:

“I had become the hunter. I brought in the pheasant, the venison, and the trout from the mountain streams – whatever was needed and could be got – to feed the family.”
^I forgot that he fished, too! I also remember him saying he talked w/ the villagers re: ideas he had for better crop productivity but I can’t find it. 

…BUT REALLY, they all just wanted him shut up and kill stuff.

What his family needed him for was putting literal food on the table, which might have abruptly stopped if he was married off and moved out, or worse, moved his wife in. Another mouth to feed, and possibly more if they had had kids.

And the Marquis probably didn’t want any little crazy mini-Lestats running around, either!

(If Lestat had not run away to Paris, maybe shown that he could calm down in the next few years, we might have seen him married off by 25.)

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[^ X] So Lestat spent most of his time out in the field, or eventually w/ Nicolas, seeking ppl who would really love him for him, and not just what he could do FOR them. He lived as much off the Marquis’ radar as possible.

And THAT’s why I think Lestat never even mentioned arranged marriage or forced courtship.

Found your VC casting list when musing about one of my own. What do you think about Gillian Anderson as Gabrielle?

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I think she’s frickin’ gorgeous is what I think about Gillian Anderson.

Physically, I am pretty attached to Cate Blanchett, Charlize Theron, Michelle Pfeiffer… especially the latter two in terms of their kittenish features. They could all potentially kill it, acting-wise. They’re all about the right age to play the role, as is Gillian. Yes, the Dark Gift makes you younger-lookin’, but I’d still want someone who was closer to the right age at the beginning, anyway, to help combat ageism in Hollywood! And to be more true to the story.

Factoring performance in, I think Gillian would be great, too. For one thing, she could beat Brad Pitt right into the ground with her eye-rolling skills alone (he does so much of that in IWTV!), the art of which she had perfected 20+ years ago.

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^“He’s behind me making that fucking face again. I don’t even have to turn around to know it. God damn it. I hate that goddamned stupid face he makes. God fucking damnit.” (Gabrielle re: Lestat, too.)

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^Looks amazeballs in a suit, too. Gabrielle prefers menswear 😉 Lestat made her wear the shoes, the only compromise in this outfit.

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^Gabrielle’s most frequently used phrase, in one of many variations.

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^Pretty sure this was a scripted line, but I bet Gillian would agree. The role of Gabrielle would probably be very appealing to Gillian.

Hello ! First, I just want to say I absolutely love your blog. It’s amazing, I’m so glad we have you to keep the fandom alive ! What brings me here is this: I just started watching a series called Versailles (about Louis XIV’s reign) and I swear I cannot see a single scene with the guy that plays the King’s brother (Alexander Vlahos) without thinking he would make a perfect Louis. Everything matches: the depressive mood, the gayness, and his looks too ! Can I ask you your opinion ? La bise <3

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Awwww thank u so much, always good to hear I’m doing well w/ this thing ;u; I’ll keep up more of the same, then!

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I haven’t watched Versailles, but I have heard of it and seen bits on tumblr, and as a side note: you might be interested in this Philippe RPer: @frerenuage. And the Chevalier is RP’d by @chxvaliers.

He’s not 100% my headcanon but Alexander Vlahos – wow. So pretty.

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And look, he’s doing that little demure thing that Louis does when he’s trying not to be judgmental, better to just say, “I see…” and speak w/ his glare:

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This looks familiar: not the outfit and hairdo so much as the facial expression and subtitle, w/ a pleased af Lestat front and center “YISS I DRAGGED HIM HERE KICKING AND SCREAMING! I AM AMAZE MYSELF

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This is also familiar, bc Louis is in fact a BAMF and he will smack a bitch:

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Finally, Talk To The Hand:

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What does Lestat feel towards Armand?

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They’re Murder Brothers! It’s so complicated.

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[fanart by @garama]

MOSTLY tho, surprisingly, their innate curiosity and respect for each other outweighs all the horrible shit they’ve put each other through. Which has been ALOT. Lestat destroyed Armand’s coven dictatorship by being his usual ray of obnoxious sunshine The New and Improved Parisian Vampire 2.0; Armand did help orchestrate the death of one of Lestat’s fledglings and maybe tortured her, too??? before manipulating another of his fledglings into a 100 yr relationship… there’s more than that, but those are big ones.

They seem to be over it all, they’ve made a kind of peace, but they have that contentious kind of rivalry and competition that brothers have.

AR was doing this Fan Questions for Lestat thing awhile back, and Lestat spoke directly about his feelings towards Armand, and I think “he” put it very well:

“Armand’s thoughts are almost impossible for me to penetrate, and his boyish countenance often reveals nothing of his true calculations and feelings. I love him and I respect him — and I know that he loves me — but I never for a moment imagine I’m entirely safe with him.” [X]

And: “I love Armand deeply. My view of Armand has evolved over time. The less I fear him, the more I love him. And the more I suffer, the more I come to understand Armand’s suffering. I have never doubted Armand’s love for me. We are kith and kin, Armand and me.” [X]

I think you have to consider how Armand feels towards Lestat, too.

“I hate him only because I cannot imagine my soul without him.” – Armand about Lestat, The Vampire Armand, [X]

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^Footage of Lestat and Armand, they go from smooches to claws in 0.3 seconds. [X]

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muirin007:

If you don’t love Lestat, you’re wrong.

What’s also kind of beautiful about this little moment (and part of why we love Lestat) is that we can see Lestat’s internal self-deprecation juxtaposed so starkly w/ his external display. Just a few lines after he reveals how “the sheer excitement was excruciating, and the love I felt for him was positively humiliating”, he has to immediately take a stab at Louis, somehow, and it’s almost stuttered out in these teensy bite-sized sentences:

“One thing, Louis,” “Those clothes. Impossible.”

He wants to make sure Louis is suffering as much as he is, w/o really injuring him, and if he has to stoop so low as to criticize his fashion sense, HE’LL DO IT, DAMN YOU. The Lestat we see in IWTV is an even crueler sassy bastard, much of it being self-defense for how much he was hurting during that time period, too ;A;

Louis is, fortunately, more durable than he appears to be, and clever enough to have figured this out, which is why they’ve survived each other been able to stay together so long ;]

I heard that IWTV wasn’t supposed to have a sequel/be a series. Which is why QOTD was released so much later. have u heard anything about that?

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Whether you mean the movie or book series, it’s true that VC began its life as a short story which AR expanded into the first novel [X]. After it received so much positive feedback, there was a sequel, and then another, and then another, and here we are with a whole series!

The IWTV movie took something like 20 yrs in production and talks and film industry issues before it could finally get made. The homosexuality and the whole pseudo-pedophilia edge (Louis biting Armand’s Denis, Claudia in general) also made the story and casting extremely difficult. 

At one point, I think Tom Cruise had the rights, and was down for making a sequel to IWTV, but I think the homophobic backlash pretty much turned him off the project 😦 It just seemed to ruin any sequels from happening for awhile.

Movie!QOTD was released in 2002, and iirc, doesn’t have much of the controversial issues that were in movie!IWTV, and is almost a stand-alone story due to how much it distorted canon, but some ppl really love it and find it nostalgic anyway! 

^Akasha bc of reasons.

You totally managed to misunderstand me about my question on Armand. And no I did not mean to be silly. “he seems to be calling ppl out on their assumptions about young boys deserving to be treated like sex objects, and not requiring as much respect as an adult. He takes issue with the fact that since someone calls him “a guilty cunning child,” he deserves to be “ravaged”. ” That’s exactly what I meant. That it must suck for him to be handled like this.

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Will a doge twinkie appease you a little? As a peace offering! I offer it in all seriousness, no sarcasm at all. He’s much twinkier than Armand, and delishus, too ❤

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I thought I answered very thoughtfully here, and I guess I’m having trouble reconciling your statements here in yellow, (my own comments in blue):

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I totally managed to misunderstand you, and then I got exactly what you meant? Are you concerned bc I put those opinions in blue under the cut? I do that to keep the post from going on too long, as ppl have told me that my responses can clutter their dash, so it’s more respectful, but for this post, I’ll just let it all hang out and go long, ok?

TL;DR: Hopefully we can agree that text sometimes sounds more or less emotional than it was intended when written, I certainly did not intend to be at all offensive or act like my opinion is any way the definitive authority on the matter, nor was I trying to be rude in the slightest, and I’m sorry that it came across that way, if it did.

Does it really suck for Armand to be in a position of being treated like a sex object? Yes, I bet it does. But he is aware, he is a student of sexuality, he’s interested in it and uses ppl’s perceptions to his advantage.

However, I recognize that this is a hot-button kind of topic in our fandom, so, okay, it’s worth delving into it a little deeper! Re: Armand being a “twink,” Part 2: 

Yes, it must suck to be forever seen as a sex object and having ppl throw themselves at you. And yet! There are all kinds of genders and ages of ppl who experience that on a daily or weekly basis.

Look at this recent story, just a few months ago (sorry I picked what appears to be a “pretty” cishet white girl, it’s just the most recent example I could think of and find an article for):

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“A young woman is hitting back at the idea that women ‘invite’ catcalling by showing how it ‘doesn’t matter’ what you are wearing, it still happens.” [Source]

There are so many of these stories on a daily basis, all over the world, right in your face. It’s very disheartening. Sometimes it goes a lot farther than it did w/ Ms. Brandt. No matter how the victim is dressed. No matter what the victim looks like or acts like.

How does this apply to Armand tho??

I went over this with a fandom friend who preferred not to be credited, and they said some very smart things, which I’ll include below.

First, tho, I want to mention the obvious: our canon has a lot of sexuality in it. ALOT. Whether you believe the vampires are asexual or fully sexual in terms of penetrative sexual intercourse? That’s up to each reader to decide. We know AR’s stance on it, that they express sensuality differently than penetrative sexual intercourse. I have no need to convince anyone of what my own headcanon is re: this set of fictional characters’ sex lives.

Secondly, a lot of VC RP and fandom discussion often brings up sex as it pertains to this set of fictional characters. I would guess that’s because humans in general are intrigued by sex for so many reasons, not the least of which is the younger fandom ppl coming in who are curious about the role that sex plays in a relationship. Is it the real glue that binds a ship together? Can a ship sail on sex alone? SEX!

How does this apply to Armand tho????

Okay! Now we can address this. Fandom Friend says:

“I think you do actually agree with each other, though [Anon’s] message is confusing in that they start off sounding like they are simplifying [Armand] (he’s ‘just’ a twink) but end up defending his own pov, [which you also pointed out in your response], that he is well-aware of how he is perceived and that he mocks that tendency, to reduce him to a beautiful, sexually attractive youth/boy.”

Armand is one of the characters in canon that we tend to tease about sex often (more in fandom spaces than in canon), bc he had a rich sexual history in his mortal life (first against his will, and then as part of his education and completing the experiences of a Full Life). In vampirism he maintained the appearance that drew so many to him sexually.

Fandom Friend continues:

“it’s true that [Armand] is wanted by everyone, there’s a very nice quote somewhere in QotD about it, but the sexual component in Armand’s character is such an integral part of his amazing mental manipulations, that it really has nothing to do with sex in the end.”

Here’s the quote, where we can see Armand “paying forward” his own education on Daniel:

“Men and women fell in love with Armand, of course, “so innocent, so passionate, so brilliant!” You don’t say. In fact, Armand’s power to seduce was almost beyond his control. And it was Daniel who must bed these unfortunates, if Armand could possibly arrange it, while he watched from a chair nearby, a dark-eyed Cupid with a tender approving smile. Hot, nerve-searing, this witnessed passion, Daniel working the other body with ever greater abandon, aroused by the dual purpose of every intimate gesture. Yet he lay empty afterwards, staring at Armand, resentful, cold.“ – Queen of the Damned

“This is not Armand being sexual, it’s him being manipulative and Danny knows, which is why he is so pissed off!”

Armand is just as interested in sex as we are! He’s interested in the physical mechanics, he’s interested in the emotional connections that can be forged, he’s interested in the mystery of the act performed in a multitude of ways.

He’s interested in it from the perspective of deriving dominance through the act. Marking one’s property. So many other things that I haven’t discovered myself yet about what sex is!

So what’s my point with all this? Like I said before, in general I don’t like to categorize characters as one thing, they’re multi-dimensional, and they evolve and change through canon, despite their physical appearances staying the same.

Anyway I don’t want to argue the point any further, #your headcanon may vary!

Don’t you think that Armand is basically the archetype of the “twink” (aka attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair)? He himself admits it in TVA “Everyone would ravage a guilty cunning child! Everyone would have a laughing boy who knows his way around the block […] but young boys? They’re not like men, are they?” It must suck to be entombed into a twink body for eternity. I’m sure he gets plenty of offers for sex.

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I can’t agree with you, bc I’m not sure if you’re being silly, in more of a Tumblrland Hyperbole™ way, but I’m feeling like defending him a little.

In general I don’t like to categorize characters as one thing, they’re multi-dimensional, and they evolve and change through canon, despite their physical appearances staying the same.

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[textmeme by armandromanus, who deactivated so I can’t link to it] ^This is really perfect for this conversation, bc you can tell by the expression @armandromanus chose in that pic that Armand does know that others often perceive him purely based on his looks, and how very wrong they are to do so.

It’s kind of sad to see such a rich and layered character so often reduced to a sex object. There’s a lot more to him than that. He struggles with the concept of intimacy bc it’s not just about sex.

I don’t think Armand thinks of himself as just some sextoy regardless of how many ppl offer him sex even now; he’s actually very selective about those he allows to get close to him physically and emotionally, when he has the independence to choose.

There are a number of times in Armand’s life in which he has been ravaged, totally against his will, just because of how he looks or acts.

Any Armand RPers are invited and welcome to add onto this.

A few thoughts on the quote you selected, hit the jump.

You might also be misreading that quote, it doesn’t seem like he’s admitting that he deserves to be treated like a sex object, more that he seems to be calling ppl out on their assumptions about young boys deserving to be treated like sex objects, and not requiring as much respect as an adult. He takes issue with the fact that since someone calls him “a guilty cunning child,” he deserves to be “ravaged”. 

“Everyone would have a laughing boy who knows his way around the block […]”

^This sounds more like he’s saying, “People want a lover who’s easy to please and/or will happily serve skilled sex…” Basically, a prostitute, for free.

“but young boys? They’re not like men, are they?”

^This sounds more like he means, “young boys don’t need to be treated with the same respect you would treat an adult.”