I just had a hilarious conversation with someone on IM who wants to remain anon, I can’t imagine why, regarding the types of magic in Phangs, and allow me to just say without anymore preamble, no, the vampire does not need to use blood magic and or necromancy to sustain an erection 😂
He manages just fine on his own, thank you.
To your tags
If he doesn’t need to feed before it how he get boner and stay boner?
My vampires are human like in their physiology. Just extremely long lived and mildly demonic, particularly before their morning coffee. Which is not to say that they don’t drink blood, it’s just less prevalent in their day to day unlives than popular myth would have most folk believe.
“Really?” Nathan asked, sounding almost a little bit disappointed with his answer. “The whole virgin blood thing is a myth?”
Vlad cleared his throat delicately, gaze rolling up towards the ceiling and making a careful study of the crumbling plaster. “I wouldn’t exactly say it was a myth, not quite...”
When Nathan failed to fill the silence that followed he sighed, pinching the bridge of his nose. “Look, one megalomaniac with a fetish does not an entire species make, all right?”
Nathan held his hands up. “All right.”
“And besides, have you tried finding a virgin in this day and age? Oh I’m kidding, don’t look at me like that.”
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait is this entire book about punny gay idiots who happen to be undead??????????????
That…about sums it up yes. Think Addams family meets Terry Pratchett punnery and rage. Cause that’s what I’ve been told it reads like. And hahaha your tags, I’ve been calling it a satirical romance this whole time :p
Oh man, that is a lot to ask, and you’re correct in that I have not consumed a wide range of vampire media, especially in terms of historical/geographical/etc.
“A cliché or cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel.”
Vampire fiction is so varied and has so many different rules compared to its first inception that I think it’s pretty free of ideas/elements that have “become overused to the point of losing their original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating.”
One cliché is the “I vaaant to suck your blooood!” line that a vampire might say to a victim, originating in vampire movies from decades ago, but it’s more of a comical thing now. It can also be modified slightly to increase the comedy:
I will say that some of my fave vampire media takes existing clichés and/or rules/conventions about vampires, and interprets it in a different way or ignores it completely.
I think it’s more important to consider existing conventions/rules, and how your vampires will operate within them, if at all. I have some stuff mixed into my #vampire physiology tag, but not a complete list.
A few conventions/rules are already widely varied in different vampire media:
Vampires can’t walk around in sunlight –
In most vampire media, vampires exposing themselves to sunlight will get them severely burned or killed immediately.
In Byzantium, I think they can walk around in sunlight with no problems at all.
In Twilight, the vampires are physically able to do so, but they’re dazzling in the sunlight, so they stand out as non-human when they do (and that’s bad bc revealing themselves as non-human could risk harm from mortals).
Vampires require blood to survive, but they are immortal, so “survive” is more like, “a healthy vampire is one that is feeding on a regular basis, but it’s not a requirement.” – I can’t think of an example of vampires that die from not drinking blood regularly… but I think the What We Do in the Shadows and Only Lovers Left Alive vampires will rapidly weaken if they don’t feed often.
Vampires don’t have reflections in mirrors – the Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992), What We Do in the Shadows, and
Only Lovers Left Alive
vampires
don’t have reflections, but the Interview with the Vampire ones definitely do.
Vampires have to be invited into their victim’s home – Only seen this being an issue in the two adaptations of Let the Right One In.
Vampires are harmed by crosses/crucifixes – Saw this as an issue in the What We Do in the Shadows vampires, that it frightens Deacon that he might be in close proximity to a cross, but it’s unclear what would happen if he touched it. In Fright Night, a vampire touching a cross ignites it in flames but it doesn’t seem to stop him from continuing to attack.
So what I’m saying is that you can explore different conventions/rules of vampires and then pick and choose which you’ll incorporate into your vampires, or invent whole new rules!
UPDATE: Got an anon message adding to the this post, here’s their info: (I reformatted their answer into nicer formatting than asks allow)
Regarding sunlight: In the original Dracula novel, sunlight actually didn’t hurt vampires, but it neutralized their powers. Dracula couldn’t transform while the sun was up, except at dawn, exact noon, and sunset, but as I recall, he still had his superhuman strength/speed/etc and was able to flee our team of heroes.
Regarding needing blood but being immortal: In Dracula and some other media, the vampires not only weaken, but age if they don’t feed. In the novel, Dracula looks like an old man when Harker first meets him, but turns young as he feeds regularly.
Regarding crucifixes: I’ve seen a instances with twists on this relating to faith. In one, the crucifix was harmless because the person using it had weak faith in God. In another, crosses and such only hurt the vampire if the vampire feared them, and faith was considered truly frightening. Two of the vampires went to church regularly to keep up their human guise, and one of them holds a cross in his hand with no issue, but a younger vampire is too scared of a cross to pick it up.
Oh man, that is a lot to ask, and you’re correct in that I have not consumed a wide range of vampire media, especially in terms of historical/geographical/etc.
“A cliché or cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has become overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was considered meaningful or novel.”
Vampire fiction is so varied and has so many different rules compared to its first inception that I think it’s pretty free of ideas/elements that have “become overused to the point of losing their original meaning or effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating.”
One cliché is the “I vaaant to suck your blooood!” line that a vampire might say to a victim, originating in vampire movies from decades ago, but it’s more of a comical thing now. It can also be modified slightly to increase the comedy:
I will say that some of my fave vampire media takes existing clichés and/or rules/conventions about vampires, and interprets it in a different way or ignores it completely.
I think it’s more important to consider existing conventions/rules, and how your vampires will operate within them, if at all. I have some stuff mixed into my #vampire physiology tag, but not a complete list.
A few conventions/rules are already widely varied in different vampire media:
Vampires can’t walk around in sunlight –
In most vampire media, vampires exposing themselves to sunlight will get them severely burned or killed immediately.
In Byzantium, I think they can walk around in sunlight with no problems at all.
In Twilight, the vampires are physically able to do so, but they’re dazzling in the sunlight, so they stand out as non-human when they do (and that’s bad bc revealing themselves as non-human could risk harm from mortals).
Vampires require blood to survive, but they are immortal, so “survive” is more like, “a healthy vampire is one that is feeding on a regular basis, but it’s not a requirement.” – I can’t think of an example of vampires that die from not drinking blood regularly… but I think the What We Do in the Shadows and Only Lovers Left Alive vampires will rapidly weaken if they don’t feed often.
Vampires don’t have reflections in mirrors – the Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992), What We Do in the Shadows, and
Only Lovers Left Alive
vampires
don’t have reflections, but the Interview with the Vampire ones definitely do.
Vampires have to be invited into their victim’s home – Only seen this being an issue in the two adaptations of Let the Right One In.
Vampires are harmed by crosses/crucifixes – Saw this as an issue in the What We Do in the Shadows vampires, that it frightens Deacon that he might be in close proximity to a cross, but it’s unclear what would happen if he touched it. In Fright Night, a vampire touching a cross ignites it in flames but it doesn’t seem to stop him from continuing to attack.
So what I’m saying is that you can explore different conventions/rules of vampires and then pick and choose which you’ll incorporate into your vampires, or invent whole new rules!
Nicolas could not contain what was occurring within him, and often his deterioration became destructive and difficult to conceal from mortals. Despite the fact that I did not directly claim leadership in an official capacity, I had a position to maintain and I had already protected him on numerous occasions, whether he realised such or not, as had Eleni. I had to prove that the threats that I made were not just threats if someone stepped out of line, or be seen as ineffective and suffer further challenges. I could not exclude Nicolas from that.
On the occasion where I took his hands, it was take his hands or take his life; based on the transgressions involved, it could have seriously compromised our position in Paris had it not been corrected swiftly. He was so far gone that others began to talk of precisely that, and I could not allow it. Taking his hands limited him in a way that imprisonment could not possibly have achieved; he had escaped imprisonment before when it was imposed upon him. Imprisonment meant nothing to him because the true oubliette existed in his mind, and that was inescapable. It gave me control over him enough that he could not possibly leave and potentially worsen the situation. It also proved that I was willing to back up my threats and that I would not respond with inaction if I was questioned.
The choice that I made meant that he lived. It does not necessarily follow that it was a choice I made gladly, regardless.
As always, I can only answer re: Ricean vampires, I’m not aware of any other vampires in other media having tatts… maybe in Twilight they can/do?
Definitively, it’s not addressed in VC canon, I don’t remember any of the vampires having tatts (whether they got them before or after they were turned) so it’s open to interpretation, #Your headcanon may vary.Personally, I have a bunch of thoughts on this mixed into my #tattoo tag, so check that out.
My headcanon is that vampires can get a tatt (and it will look permanent) but it will fade during the deathsleep, which is what @frankenlandinformed us that Anne Rice thinks about it, too:
If we accept the author’s words as canon, we can say definitively:
1) Tattoos that the vampire tries to get AFTER they have been turned: Will vanish in 24 hrs.
2) Tattoos that the vampire has BEFORE they have been turned: Will fade/lighten/change (see comment from @monstersinthecosmos on my post about this, below)
i remember Anne said on FB once that someone’s tattoos would probably go really light and lacey/elegant looking after they’re turned, but remain in a way that looks ~ethereal~ lolol
^I’d have to find the post but I would imagine that AR means that the tattoo will “go really light and lacey/elegant looking” over time, not at the moment of turning, but it could be interpreted either way.
@thebibliosphere added to one of my posts: “I treat vampires as just very long living humans, which means even tattoos fade over time as the skin cells regenerate.” [X] I’m inclined to agree. I also think a tattoo could be removed from vampire flesh “by scraping/cutting/etc. off the tattooed skin and letting it regenerate to its natural state).” as @skeletalroses put it [X].
YES, I loooooved OLLA! Definitely one of my faves.
So many questions about those characters! I want the backstory on all of them. How are they turned? When was Eve turned? She seems to have some kind of touch-telepathy with materials, like a druid? How did Ava get turned, is she older than Adam? WHAT HAPPENED IN PARIS 87 YRS AGO? Some bad shit went down in Paris for our faves, too.
(From what I understand, based on my behind-the-scenes knowledge (I know a dude who is good friends with the director, Jim Jarmusch) much of what does happen in OLLA is based on real things that happened in the director’s life, specifically, experiences with an ex (in the movie, represented by Ava).)
It’s almost the VC movie we’ve deserved for a long time and I loved it! Like a documentary or a diary entry, almost. It’s humorous, sensuous, clever, dramatic, all built on a strong foundation of the characters’ chemistry w/ each other. It offers its own take on some of the vampire mythology (they don’t have reflections in mirrors, they are susceptible to blood diseases). Not alot actually HAPPENS, plot-wise, but it doesn’t need to. We’re getting a slice of life of these characters. It’s mostly a collection of charming subtle moments, like Adam trying Eve’s new “cuisine” for the first time:
^Yes, this moment has a sexiness to it *drool* but more than that, he is almost childlike in both his resistance to *~and his curiosity about~* this New Thing bc he won’t let Eve know she can improve his mood so easily bc Adam is a SERYUS Brooding Musician ffs.
Btw, there is/was an Adam RPer, @wastefulselfobsession. You might check out their archive for more OLLA. They have character backstories!
So Adam is something of a Louis/Nicolas hybrid, being the bookworm musician who lives in a shambles and doesn’t care for fashion (or conditioner apparently). Like Louis, he doesn’t want to go around hunting the Evildoer. I can’t help but make a few more little comparisons to IWTV…
^Frickin’ house rules, ppl!!! Hot dad is angry.
^Claudia and Ava are SOOO sorry. Like really. So apologetic. They’ll never do it again, seriously. They are voracious little monsters, aren’t they?
^Little sisters to big bro/sis/makers: “We are going to have S O M U C H fun”
More comparisons could be made but I like ppl to think I am just a casual fan and not a corkboard maniac that’s alls I got for now.
I don’t remember that part, but I definitely saw the movie… hmmm… maybe I blocked it out? But how did the babies even grow in the vampire mother’s wombs? Very strange.
Here’s an article on this… which I’ll leave here, and not read, bc I’m not really wild about this topic at this time, but if you are, go for it! I bet there were a ton of articles like this bc of Breaking Dawn.
(I think you mean female vampires in adult bodies, and that’s why you mentioned Claudia as not included, while she is female, she has a child’s body; and for the fact that she was the child of Louis and Lestat – she was not a vampire at her mortal birth.)
You might try the Twilight series, bc there’s a pregnant adult female vampire in that! I haven’t read it, but from what I’m told, it’s not a fun experience, to say the least :-[ Similarly, I think Blade is a half-vampire whose mother was mortal and whose father was a vampire. He can walk in the daylight bc of his mortal half, but he still requires blood (or a substitute) for his vampire half.
KEEP IN MIND: you don’t need to agree with me at all! This is just what I think, I think a pregnant vampire story could be very bizarre and horrifying and I rarely see it even attempted in fiction, so I think you could develop this concept and write the story of the pregnant vampire you want to see in the world!
[^X] In my opinion, if we’re talking about just Ricean vampire/vampire or vampire/mortal procreation, I don’t believe that vampires are able to become pregnant or impregnate, whether through penetrative sex or artificial insemination.* That, and the fact that they already have a means of procreation already, which is the blood exchange of the Dark Gift.
BUT WAIT:
… psssst…. Some ppl do not accept it as canon, but if you want a VC book that has vampires+pregnancy, go for the ride that is the bookPrince Lestat. A vampire doctor/scientist enables one of the male vampires to have sex and impregnate a mortal woman. She carries this baby to term, and that child ends up being fully human! I would imagine that the vampire doctor/scientist was able to get the male vampire’s ‘boys’ swimming around again from being dormant for like 200+ years (that’s some vintage stuff!), essentially making them mortal again? I don’t know, and thankfully, it’s not explained in much detail.
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*I had written a Wall of Text backing up my statement, but it felt like it was trampling on the curiosity of the anon to have all that, which I didn’t want to do, so I removed it. In the plainest terms, I don’t think Ricean vampires have active sperm or eggs, or a working uterus (has any female vampire in canon EVER mentioned getting her period? Nope!) and you need those to make a baby, even if it’s half-mortal.
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