Can we talk about how almost everyone’s hair in VC is curly? Practically every one has “curls”, I just find it funny.

Don’t you know tho? The Dark Gift comes with a free perm….

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… there’s also the humidity to consider, NOLA is a pretty humid place, other VC locations might also be humid. 

I just skimmed TVL, and yes, it looks like there’s a lot of curly-hair references, but having read the entire series, what sticks out more for me are the “round little arms” on the women and children, like, WHAT OTHER SHAPE would they be? “square little arms” “trapezoid little arms”…?

Hello, I really love IWTV(1994), and I’ve heard that there would be a kissing scene between Lestat and Louis, but Brat Pitt rejected it. So I just wonder is it true? (Sorry for my poor English since it is not my first language)

I haven’t heard about that at all, it’s possible! Let’s hope we get enough kissing in the upcoming adaptation to make up for the lack of L/L smooches in movie!IWTV <333

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Idk, tho, Brad was willing to kiss an actual child, I feel like that’s more taboo than kissing an adult man. Knowing the kind of roles he’s had in his career I don’t think he would have refused to kiss a man onscreen in 1994.

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^This was apparently not a “stage kiss,” Kirsten said this was her first kiss with a guy and she apparently hated it; she said it felt like kissing her brother (which really is pretty accurate).

^You might also be thinking of that moment where Louis sort of teases that he’s gonna kiss Armand but he doesn’t actually do it.

Hi every one :’B have you ever taught about the similar story between Marius/Armand, and Leonardo Davinci /Salai. Both painters, both armand and salai have a similar behavior… “Salai” means devil… and Armand is… well you how lovely he is <3 I think, maybe… Anne took this like and example to write the story … Anyone who shares this?

I don’t know the story of Leonardo Davinci /Salai! It’s possible AR was inspired by it, I haven’t seen her mention Salai… Did they do this kind of cute stuff?

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[^X by @unionthesalmon, reblog from the X or the source!]

Did AR ever give a reason as to why they were no longer interested in making a VC film? I assume she didn’t like the direction the studio/director wanted to take the film.

Nope! Not that I’ve been made aware of. AR didn’t give us a reason why Universal was no longer involved. She just announced to us 11/26/16 that she had the rights back [X] and was developing a VC TV series. So I would assume that Universal rights expired, and they didn’t choose to renew. AR might have raised the renewal cost, too.

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I hope we do get the backstory on that someday, but my guess is we never will. Probably the same kind of development hell that happened w/ movie!IWTV from ‘94, the rights were jostled around for almost 20 yrs bc, from what I understand:

  • the material was/is very difficult to adapt with all the problematic and taboo stuff in it.*
  • the filmmakers wanted to please the VC fans, but they also wanted to make something that people who had not read the books would want to go see! That’s probably one of the reasons for Banderas!Armand, btw. I’m sure the filmmakers had to choose between satisfying the VC fans and reducing the taboo stuff enough to make it more palatable for non-VC fans (Louis, an adult vampire, being seduced by a teenage-looking vampire, might have been too much to ask for in 1994 it might still be too taboo now). 
  • casting was tough,several first choice actors declined.

*@moral-cipher and I were talking about this, and the way ppl criticize canon, and that’s fine, I encourage it! But it is a very problematic series and just about every character is dysfunctional, every character has suffered or has caused suffering in others. The new motto for VC fandom might as well be:

~VC: If you’re looking for a perfect cinnamon roll, you’ve come to the wrong fandom.~

Hello, sorry to bother you if you’ve seen this before, but I just found Botticelli’s Portrait of a Young Man for the first time, and his expression reminds me of Armand even more than the angel paintings! Maybe how Armand stares and stares at people lol. Hope you have a nice day!

My day was very good, thank u! Hope yours was/is, too. 

I looked for the painting and I found 3, there are probably even more than that… thanks for pointing these out to me, I hadn’t seen them before, I can definitely see some Armand in each of them. 

In all of them I see the “spun amber” hair thing, as David Talbot being a borderline perv including touching him w/o asking first describes Armand in TVA:

“Your hair’s like something spun from amber, as if the amber would melt and could
be drawn from candle flames in long fine airy threads and let to dry that way to make
all these shining tresses. You’re sweet, boylike and pretty as a girl. I wish I had one
glimpse of you in antique velvet the way you were for him, for Marius. I wish I could
see for one moment how it was when you dressed in stockings and wore a belted
doublet sewn with rubies. Look at you, the frosty child. My love doesn’t even touch
you.”

Apply that description to these:

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^Portrait of a young man holding a medallion. Altho this one doesn’t resemble Armand to me, it reminded me of his painting the ikons in the caves. “Yeah this took me maybe a half hour… commissions are closed.” Bonus points for the subtle trompe-l’œil effect of his finger sort of out of the frame like that.

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^Portrait of a Young Man 3. This is more physically Armand to me, and of the attitude of Armand, who has perfected the very difficult to achieve front-facing side-eye expression. He’s also throwing a gang sign, is that a W for west coast or an E for east coast? Armand is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

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^Portrait of a Young Man. This one has awesome hair, all swirled like that. You might call this portrait boring at first glance but if you give it more of a chance, it has a haunting effect. Is he leaning forward a little? It seems like it. This is more of the coven master face to me than the other two. “If there were a leader… I would be the one.”

Hello! Do you recall if there is ever any reason given on why Mael didn’t survive the sun stunt although Armand, who is much much younger did? If Anne ever explained it I didn’t catch it. I love your blog by the way and you seem to be a lovely person <3

Y’know, I don’t think it was ever explained in canon! We’ve had a few Mael RPers over the years who might have have a good answer for you… @thevampiremael, @maelgallia come to mind. Other RPers, or anyone else, are welcome to comment/reblog w/ ideas on this.

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[^X Brock O’Hurn bc of reasons *swoon*]

Mael had been turned (pretty soon after Marius was turned) by Avicus, another God of the Wood who had survived the Great Fire. Even if Avicus had done a bad job turning him or had recently turned other fledglings, that shouldn’t have been a factor in Mael’s vulnerability to sunlight so many years later, since Mael was old enough to have earned some durability on his own. The only answer I can think of rn is that Mael’s combusted remains were further destroyed by frightened mortals who saw it happen? Idk! It’s an answer I’d like to have. 


I love your blog by the way and you seem to be a lovely person ❤

Awww thank u for the blargh love and comment about me, that’s very sweet of you! ^_____^

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I saw your recent post about Claudia’s murder of Lestat so I rewatched that scene on youtube. I had totally forgotten most of the details and wow. People bash Tom Cruise (for some pretty valid reasons), but everthing about his reaction and his words and expression was so perfect. They really captured that moment. Poor Lestat, I think because he was so happy he turned blind/naive in that moment when he asks Claudia if shes forgiven him and doesn’t think twice when she says yes. Claudia was being

(2/2) so cruel because she KNEW being really kind to him for once would make him the most vulnerable so she could kill him. And if that’s not evil I don’t know what is.


It’s one of the best scenes in the movie! And one of the most heartbreaking ;A;

“When Claudia starts her assassination plot by bringing him a human gift, Cruise’s eyes show Lestat’s surprise that someone has finally done something nice for him for the first time in the film… 

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In that moment, we realize that while Lestat is capable of love, he’s never been loved back.” – Amy Nicholson, Tom Cruise: Anatomy of an Actor 

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You are preaching to the choir re: Tom’s Lestat 😉 He may not have LOOKED 100% like Lestat but I thought his performance really captured the essence of the character. I think Kirsten took a lot of her acting cues from his Lestat, too. They were so well-matched that it was easy to believe that they were “father” and “daughter”; she seemed like a little girl version of him, inheriting more of his cruelty than his kindness, but definitely taking on both ❤

She really did lead him to believe that they had forgiven each other, and doing that one nice thing for him, to a person as starved for affection as he was… she knew it would kindle his hope for reconciliation, she KNEW that would make him the most vulnerable and YES that is pretty elite evil *cries*

I’m the same anon that had asked to see marius/armand’s ship kids and omg….. these new ones…. I’ve always kinda secretly shipped armand and lestat, am I the only one here? I’m not really sure why but I just do. (Tbh I basically ship everyone with everyone in the series lol. I cannot choose one ship over the other. Honestly, everybody in VC gets around anyway.)

Those #ship kids are SO cute. Tell @superhiki directly how much you love them!

You are not alone, there are others out there. People: Comment/Reblog if you ship Lestat/Armand *u* It’s an AU ship for me, I can ship almost anything AU.

They have a bizarre kind of chemistry, don’t they?! If they weren’t both so obsessed with being alpha, they could really enjoy each other. 

This is one of the only fanarts I’ve seen of them in any kind of shippiness, and even then, I think it’s the scene in TVL where Lestat is succumbing to Armand’s illusions. 

“You know it was the damnedest luck!” I whispered suddenly. “I am an unwilling devil. I cry like some vagrant child. I want to go home.”

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[Source unknown, even reverse-image searched. Tell me the source if you know it!]

Anyhow they have referred to eachother in canon as being brothers of a sort, so I tag them #murder brothers, if you want more Lestat/Armand action. 

Ive noticed a lot of fanart of IWTV makes the boys look like girls. its not just one artist its the fandom’s thing to draw them w not “feminine” but *female* features. Im a ftm trans artist so ive spent a lot of time looking at how male vs female faces differ and the iwtv fandom draws men with smaller jaws, bigger eyes, softer features, bigger lips, small/arched eyebrows. Besides long hair and elaborate dress the characters dont look female so do u know why the fandom draws them like that?

(1) First of all, I would encourage you to post your own interpretations, share with us how you see these characters, we have an insatiable hunger for more fanart ;] 

If your headcanon is different, that’s great! Variety is the spice of life. 

(2) In my experience, having been in VC fandom for 20+ years and on tumblr for about 3.5 yrs, yes, I’ve seen a lot of IWTV-era fanart depicting the male characters with feminine features, you may be right about that. But not all of it is.

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[^X Louis, Claudia and Lestat, IWTV-era, by @superhiki, who often uses Daniel Tighe as a reference for Louis, and fandom favorite Danila Kovalev for Lestat (and, not pictured here but worth mentioning, Hiki uses fandom favorite Bjorn Andresen for Armand)] 

(3) I get the impression from your message that you consider that “fanart of IWTV makes the boys look like girls” is bad/wrong/incorrect. If that’s not your point, I apologize, and you can skip to (4), but if it is your point, please see this post about fandom policing, here’s an excerpt from @spiderladyceo:  

“And no matter how well-meaning you are, you don’t get to tell other fans what they can and cannot write, or draw, or enjoy. 

When you start telling people what they can create or enjoy, you invalidate the purpose of fandom, and create a situation where instead of free exploration, we have something similar to mainstream media in which certain tropes or topics are not allowed. This limits the free expression, exploration and innovation so highly prized in fandom.

…You don’t get to tell fans how to enjoy fandom. You mind your own path, your write your own fic, you write meta on why x trope is offensive/problematic/bad but you do not tell other fans how to enjoy fandom.”

(4) I don’t quite understand your distinction between “feminine” and *female* features, except that I consider “female features” specifically to mean female genitalia and secondary sex characteristics (breasts). So I’m only going to address “feminine” features. 

On that point, “smaller jaws, bigger eyes, softer features, bigger lips, small/arched eyebrows” are not exclusive to female characters. Jason Momoa is a man with

BIG EYES, thick lashes, arched brows, big lips, soft jaw, round face,… and I think he is a cis man.

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(5) I don’t speak for all the fanartists, but I sent your ask out privately to several fanartists, fic writers, etc., and the general consensus was that if you want to know why a fanartist or writer has made certain artistic choices, you should ask them directly about it and they will answer if they choose to do so. 

Some reasons they gave for drawing characters the way they do: 

  • Some fanartists have a different idea of what is “masculine” than you do. It just varies, even in people who express their assigned gender, features differ wildly. 
  • Anne Rice often describes the characters in feminine and androgynous ways. 
  • Many of her vampires were turned young, before developing your idea of “masculine” features, or they never did. Armand was “perhaps seventeen” (TVA) when he was turned and had stopped growing, had not developed masculine features by that time. “My hands are as delicate as those of a young woman, and I was beardless,” (TVA)
  • It was more fashionable for men during the IWTV-era to be fashionable and cultured, the style of which might be considered a little more feminine by today’s standards. See Dandy.
  • Their own aesthetic taste may be inspired by anime/manga. One example is Dany&Dany.
  • Fanartists often use models and actors as references. Many male models and actors have feminine features. One of them, Andreja Pejić, was a fan favorite as Lestat for many years, and she transitioned MTF in 2013.
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^[X] fanart of Lestat/Louis by @sheepskeleton based on

[X] this picture of Andreja Pejic (left) and Erika Linder (right).

  • Fanartists may have been inspired by movie!IWTV. Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt already had somewhat feminine features in the early 90′s, which were enhanced in movie!IWTV. This is one of my fave fanarts of Lestat, and it’s based on Tom’s Lestat:
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^X Lestat by *HRFleur is so lovely. And someone commented on it that they think he is handsome w/o looking feminine. 

“I don’t think he looks like Tom Cruise. I think he looks better! it’s as if you took the essence of Lestat from Tom and pulled the real Lestat out. He looks as though he’s about to say something sarcastic or perhaps become peevish over something. I like that you made him handsome without looking feminine.”  


Feminine Jesus Christ:

  • The idea of drawing men with female or feminine features predates fanart. People depict Jesus Christ with feminine features when there is plenty of controversy about what he actually might have looked like:
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^Not my comparison pic, I took it from Janet Carr @ THIS BUG’S LIFE’s post about the Jesus depiction issue. Carr writes that the more feminine Jesus depictions are “actually pictures of Cesare Borgia, son of Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI, and brother of Lucrezia Borgia… Pope Alexander VI had all previous depictions of Jesus destroyed in about 1492, and replaced with images of his son. Henceforth, these have been the images used to depict Christ.”

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^Here’s our feminized Jesus and early 90′s Brad Pitt, for comparison. I remember Brad being criticized

in the early 90′s

by men for looking too feminine. The pic above is from a magazine, the Italian caption is “Blond, blue eyes, beautiful in spite of himself, and with a smile <<capable of reversing feminism 25 years>>.


//end. Sorry for the long post, everyone. 

I didn’t put any of that under a cut bc I spent a lot of time on this response and I have found that people will reblog, trying to make a post into a discussion, without reading what’s under the cut. People may still want to try to do that, as this is a social network that encourages discussion, but I’m probably not going to engage any further in this topic. I think I’ve made my point, which is that fanartists draw what they want to draw.